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Halo |OT4| Trust's a Tough Thing to Come by These Days

I wonder what the range is on that. Could you drop one of those mines and then run across the map, and still have the radar show you the location? Could be interesting to launch one across a map into an enemy's flag room and let your team know if the room is clear before they get there.

How far can you fire it is what I wanna know. You see a Tank across the map, can you hit it with the SD?
 

Tawpgun

Member
Got one canon/campaign issue.

Do not like them being called Prometheans. That's a title reserved for the best of the best of the Warrior Caste of forerunners. Not some scrub throwaway robots.



Also, I think I might be a fan of the BR's bloom. It looks like it stays within the outer reticle. This means that at full bloom, full firing speed, it essentially becomes the Halo 3 BR. If you sustain the fire a little more, its the Halo 2 BR.
 
The Pro-Pipe in Reach has "distance to 'nade" indicator AND it has skull symbol for up to a three (IIRC) targets in the detonation radius.

Distance to nade means nothing, its simply for aesthetics.
Have you ever tried to actually kill someone using the kill indicator on the Grenade Launcher?
It is nearly impossible to respond quick enough, plus you must have previously bounced the grenade into a tactical location.

Much different than a mini radar around the kill area of precisely placed sticky grenade.


Maybe just trying to make it easier to understand.

The amount of time I see people use the pro-pipe incorrectly, as in no EMP, is staggering.

That is exactly what accessible means :p
I didn't mean to imply that it is overpowered or anything.
Just accessibility is obviously a goal of theirs, as it should be.
 

Woorloog

Banned
Much different than a mini radar around the kill area of precisely placed sticky grenade.

You sure about that? Hmm.
*Shrug*
As long as the mine is somehow visible for other players, i don't care about mini radars.

EDIT oh, i see what you mean. Neat feature, could be used for long range recon, in a way.
EDIT2 notice how i start thinking of unconventional uses for it?
 

JMizzlin

Member
This is looking so freaking good! But I'm sad because I won't get to play it til late next year.

Do we know if the Spartan Ops missions will be available forever? Or will they expire?
 

Pennybags

Member
How far can you fire it is what I wanna know. You see a Tank across the map, can you hit it with the SD?

Not sure if it would affect things very much anyways. That MTW dirtbag said it was very weak against vehicles, IIRC.

Then again, he also talked about a 2 shot DMR lolololol
 

Woorloog

Banned
This is looking so freaking good! But I'm sad because I won't get to play it til late next year.

Do we know if the Spartan Ops missions will be available forever? Or will they expire?

I'd imagine they're available for forever. Otherwise some people are going to rage hard, me included.

And why can you play this only so late?
 
ok sorry if this has been discussed, thread moving too fast

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what the hell is that thing on the left? is that a corpse(?) falling on the ground next to that crate?

Definitely a corpse, if you look closely you can see it's probably a spartan backsmacking another before he gets blown up by the sticky detonator.
 

Ryaaan14

Banned
Does anyone know if everyone's playing the latest build? This promethian vision shit is baffling after what Frank said about good players not wanting to use it.

MLG PLAYERS ARE GOOD AND THEY ARE ALL USING IT.
 

Woorloog

Banned
All the .gifs/material I'm looking at have the grenades blowing up after they stick to a surface. Can you blow them up in mid-air? I hope so!

I'd imagine you can, as long as you launch it with trigger held. Hopefully you can, airburst in Reach are so much fun if they kill someone, specifically a jetpacker.
 

kylej

Banned
Does anyone know if everyone's playing the latest build? This promethian vision shit is baffling after what Frank said about good players not wanting to use it.

MLG PLAYERS ARE GOOD AND THEY ARE ALL USING IT.

If it's balanced for 343, it's balanced for everyone.
 

Slightly Live

Dirty tag dodger
Does anyone know if everyone's playing the latest build? This promethian vision shit is baffling after what Frank said about good players not wanting to use it.

MLG PLAYERS ARE GOOD AND THEY ARE ALL USING IT.

These MLG player have played, what, 1 game? Maybe 2? First impressions and long term habit are two very different things.

Stop kneejerking and chill.
 

JMizzlin

Member
And why can you play this only so late?

Leaving Australia to work in America for a year in August and won't be bringing my box (nor do I expect to have access to one over there). Looks like I'll have to get my fix on Gamestop demo counters.

Here's hoping they're forever. Would help if there are achievements tied to them.
 

zap

Member
Leaving Australia to work in America for a year in August and won't be bringing my box (nor do I expect to have access to one over there). Looks like I'll have to get my fix on Gamestop demo counters.

Here's hoping they're forever. Would help if there are achievements tied to them.

360s are pretty cheap... no reason not to, especially if you're there for a year ;)
 

Retro

Member
All the .gifs/material I'm looking at have the grenades blowing up after they stick to a surface. Can you blow them up in mid-air? I hope so!

I hope so too. Could be very interesting if you've got an enemy camping around a corner. Just shoot a grenade and detonate mid-air right near the door. The US Military has a weapon that functions similarly (#9 in this article) and apparently it works well against entrenched enemies behind barriers.
 

Karl2177

Member
Why do they call it Promethean Vision when he hasn't even encountered Prometheans yet?

Also going to see Prometheus this Friday. Am excite.
 

Retro

Member
Why do they call it Promethean Vision when he hasn't even encountered Prometheans yet?

Also going to see Prometheus this Friday. Am excite.

Pretty sure Frankie mentioned in an interview that this part was about a third in to the game? Chief will undoubtedly be on Requiem for a while before Infinity shoes up, plenty of time to get some goodies.

Also, I seem to recall someone mentioning that a lot of this was pushed together to have something awesome to show; Chief may not encounter these enemies in this scene for the first time, maybe they just edited the audio to make it sound like it?
 

malfcn

Member
Definitely going to be Halo 4 and Waypoint avatar awards.

If I wanted to get back into Halo, how necessary are the Map Packs. I have one of them for Reach.
 
I can't wait to get my hands on the thruster!
Going to be sick to use in gun fights to out maneuver the enemy.

Definitely going to be Halo 4 and Waypoint avatar awards.

If I wanted to get back into Halo, how necessary are the Map Packs. I have one of them for Reach.
You came to the wrong place if you were trying to be tempted into purchasing the map packs!
I've heard horror stories of people trying to play a DLC map in matchmaking.
 

JMizzlin

Member
360s are pretty cheap... no reason not to, especially if you're there for a year ;)

This is true, but then an internet connection is another thing..

I actually won a copy of Halo 4 from Microsoft in an E3 competition 2 weeks ago, so luckily I'll have it waiting for me when I get home. Not to mention there'll be plenty of DLC available from the get go!
 

Risen

Member
These MLG player have played, what, 1 game? Maybe 2? First impressions and long term habit are two very different things.

Stop kneejerking and chill.

Seems less a knee jerk and more a real concern. Good players who break the game down into minute detail are going to gravitate to things that allow them to dominate.

In the game type being played and described, it seems pretty clear that good players are going to shit on kids using Promethean Vision in combination with the Ordinance Drops. Let me see through walls AND have an OS every five kills...lol at the domination.

Hopefully the end version of PV will be balanced by something other than knowing when someone is using it.
 

CyReN

Member
These MLG player have played, what, 1 game? Maybe 2? First impressions and long term habit are two very different things.

Stop kneejerking and chill.

To add on what Risen said, MLG can breakdown anything gameplay within 1 watch. Look at u4ix breakdown the game live yesterday for example. This is why we always ask for full gameplay, not to watch but to learn and improve on it.

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I just realized that out of all the weapons 343 could've teased in the Halo 4 announcement trailer, they chose Halo 4's equivalent of the pro-pipe. Good taste!
 

Slightly Live

Dirty tag dodger
To add on what Risen said, MLG can breakdown anything gameplay within 1 watch. Look at u4ix breakdown the game live yesterday for example. This is why we always ask for full gameplay, not to watch but to learn and improve on it.

Don't care how pro anyone is, it takes more than playing a few games to even begin to judge balance nuance.
 
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