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Can anyone explain to me the significance of the weight of denim?

I see/own a lot of pairs that are advertised as 10oz, 12oz, 16oz, 22oz, etc. yet I've never really known what to make of it. Does a heavier denim just make it sturdier (ideally)?
 
Can anyone explain to me the significance of the weight of denim?

I see/own a lot of pairs that are advertised as 10oz, 12oz, 16oz, 22oz, etc. yet I've never really known what to make of it. Does a heavier denim just make it sturdier (ideally)?

From my understanding heavier= warmer,sturdier,harder to fade. I might be wrong though so I'll let others weigh in.
 

Cosmic Bus

pristine morning snow
Anybody every told you that you look like a smaller Mark Wahlberg?

Almost everyone! A girl at school even said to me once, "Hey Wahlberg! Want to take some photos for me in your Calvins like Marky Mark?" but I was too uncomfortable and caught off guard to say that if she had a cute brother maybe I'd consider it...

To be fair, though, it's Donny that I look more like. :(

Out of the last 5 or so pages, you have some form of fashion that is normal. Everyone else can go fuck themselves for trying so hard.

lolol. I'll absolutely take trying too hard over the two most common societal extremes of wearing jeans and a t-shirt or a suit all the time. When I succumb to either of those things, it's time to hang myself.
 

Pilgor

Member
Can anyone explain to me the significance of the weight of denim?

I see/own a lot of pairs that are advertised as 10oz, 12oz, 16oz, 22oz, etc. yet I've never really known what to make of it. Does a heavier denim just make it sturdier (ideally)?

The weight of a square yard of the denim. Heavier denim is made with thicker yarn, and is significantly stiffer. I have a pair of 22oz, and they still feel like cardboard after 6 months of wear. 10 and 12 oz denims are pretty light, but once you get to 15oz and above, it becomes noticeably stiffer/tougher.

From my experience, the heavier the denim, the better the fade.

These are 22oz.

NFEF2front.jpg


NFEF2back.jpg
 
The weight of a square yard of the denim. Heavier denim is made with thicker yarn, and is significantly stiffer. I have a pair of 22oz, and they still feel like cardboard after 6 months of wear. 10 and 12 oz denims are pretty light, but once you get to 15oz and above, it becomes noticeably stiffer/tougher.

From my experience, the heavier the denim, the better the fade.

These are 22oz.

NFEF2front.jpg


NFEF2back.jpg
Omfg those are sexy. What brand and fit is that?
 
Thanks. I haven't splurged on a piece of raw denim yet, but I'm planning to do so this fall so I can wear them nonstop til summer hits again. Those look like some fantastic jeans. I've heard a lot of good things about N&F, but is there anything I should be aware of? Any quirks? How's the sizing?
 
Thanks. I still haven't splurged on a piece of raw denim yet, but I'm planning to do so this fall so I can wear them nonstop til summer hits again. Those look like some fantastic jeans. I've heard a lot of good things about N&F,but is there anything I should he aware of? Any quirks? How's the sizing?

Sizing is true, they don't shrink or stretch much. Great for the price.

I'm not a fade junkie so I just wear them like, well, jeans.
 

Pilgor

Member
Thanks. I haven't splurged on a piece of raw denim yet, but I'm planning to do so this fall so I can wear them nonstop til summer hits again. Those look like some fantastic jeans. I've heard a lot of good things about N&F, but is there anything I should be aware of? Any quirks? How's the sizing?

Size down 1, as they stretch quite a bit. I have 3 pairs of Weird Guys, the first being true to size, which stretched in the waist by an inch at least. If you size down 1, they will be tight and a little uncomfortable for the first couple of weeks, but will stretch a comfortable size pretty quickly.

I'm a big fan of N&F, great jean for the price.

http://blueowlworkshop.blogspot.com/2012/03/naked-famous-elephant-2-denim-restocks.html
 
Another weekend away, another list of females thinking im gay because I give a shit about how I dress. Starting to be abit of a drag..

Heh, I was talking with a girl about what I was wearing recently when all of a sudden:

"So, are you gay or something?"
"No, I just know how to dress."
".....Same thing isn't it?"

Admittedly, the sleeves on my t-shirt were riding a little too high perhaps which doesn't help when you're a skinny dude like me, but since I started taking care of my appearance this has cropped up a lot over the years.
The weirdest was when a girl I brought back to my place used the bathroom. She saw I used exfoliator and questioned whether I should've even invited her back that night..... :(
 
I mean its from close girl friends and I know its mostly just to wind me up but It did get aggravating after awhile.

I just take pride in my clothing and dont really understand guys that just dress like shit.. baggy past the knee length shorts, grandad style short sleeved shirts, bad fitting jeans and ugly trainers etc

The reasoning of "I wanted this because it matches this and goes with this" is what gets the comments.
After thats all said and done though they end up saying I look good and like the stuff I wear!
 
Heh, I was talking with a girl about what I was wearing recently when all of a sudden:

"So, are you gay or something?"
"No, I just know how to dress."
".....Same thing isn't it?"

Admittedly, the sleeves on my t-shirt were riding a little too high perhaps which doesn't help when you're a skinny dude like me, but since I started taking care of my appearance this has cropped up a lot over the years.
The weirdest was when a girl I brought back to my place used the bathroom. She saw I used exfoliator and questioned whether I should've even invited her back that night..... :(

If she asks if you're gay, ask her if you can prove to her that you aren't.

I mean its from close girl friends and I know its mostly just to wind me up but It did get aggravating after awhile.

I just take pride in my clothing and dont really understand guys that just dress like shit.. baggy past the knee length shorts, grandad style short sleeved shirts, bad fitting jeans and ugly trainers etc

The reasoning of "I wanted this because it matches this and goes with this" is what gets the comments.
After thats all said and done though they end up saying I look good and like the stuff I wear!

Yeah, I don't get it either. I guess it's out of laziness... through high school, I pretty much dressed average/slobbish. Really only in the last year or so have I made a real attempt to at least try to dress better.
 

TheSailerman

Neo Member
So I picked up some linen button-down (edit: are they called "button-down" or "button-up"? I've heard both.) shirts at Uniqlo yesterday - I love the look & fit of them.

They didn't have the long-sleeve in green in my size (XS), so I bought the short-sleeve (got other colors in long-sleeve). However, now I'm thinking I should just look at either of the other NYC stores for the long-sleeve & return the one I bought. Thoughts?
 

Jay Sosa

Member
Need advice again..

I'm looking for a comfortable shoe to wear in rainy/wet weather that looks good with jeans and chinos.

Maybe Clarks (Wallebees) or boat shoes?

Most important thing is that they're comfortable to walk in.
 
Need advice again..

I'm looking for a comfortable shoe to wear in rainy/wet weather that looks good with jeans and chinos.

Maybe Clarks (Wallebees) or boat shoes?

Most important thing is that they're comfortable to walk in.

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picked up a brown pair on myhabit for 20 bucks.
 

Azzurri

Member
Guys, I'm looking for some new boots. Right now I typically wear my John Varvatos every day, but they're kinda falling apart. What I'm looking for is a boot with a 2" heel or so, for around 200-400$
 
So I picked up some linen button-down (edit: are they called "button-down" or "button-up"? I've heard both.) shirts at Uniqlo yesterday - I love the look & fit of them.

They didn't have the long-sleeve in green in my size (XS), so I bought the short-sleeve (got other colors in long-sleeve). However, now I'm thinking I should just look at either of the other NYC stores for the long-sleeve & return the one I bought. Thoughts?
Pics...?
 

Cosmic Bus

pristine morning snow
Why do you want to return the short sleeve? Being horrified of wearing a short sleeved button-up is another of the silly rules/standards that never made much sense to me. If the cut is flattering (and this being a Uniqlo shirt, it likely is) instead of boxy or billowy, then there's no issue.
 

TheSailerman

Neo Member
Why do you want to return the short sleeve? Being horrified of wearing a short sleeved button-up is another of the silly rules/standards that never made much sense to me. If the cut is flattering (and this being a Uniqlo shirt, it likely is) instead of boxy or billowy, then there's no issue.

I'm not horrified of wearing a short sleeve button-up, I own a couple, actually. And you're right, the cut is flattering - at least I think so.

I didn't delve into my thoughts behind it, which I should have. Basically, I was thinking about returning it for two reasons: First, because I was originally going to buy the long-sleeve. Second, I've never owned a linen shirt before, and thought they may be light enough that long sleeves wouldn't make as much of a difference in the heat as other materials (plus, it would help protect my pale skin from burning).

I do like that I'd have one linen shirt that I can't wear to work and could look forward to wearing on the weekend/days off though...
 

Pilgor

Member
Guys, I'm looking for some new boots. Right now I typically wear my John Varvatos every day, but they're kinda falling apart. What I'm looking for is a boot with a 2" heel or so, for around 200-400$

Alden Indys. They will not fall apart, though they may be less than a 2" heel.
 
From my understanding heavier= warmer,sturdier,harder to fade. I might be wrong though so I'll let others weigh in.

The weight of a square yard of the denim. Heavier denim is made with thicker yarn, and is significantly stiffer. I have a pair of 22oz, and they still feel like cardboard after 6 months of wear. 10 and 12 oz denims are pretty light, but once you get to 15oz and above, it becomes noticeably stiffer/tougher.

From my experience, the heavier the denim, the better the fade.

These are 22oz.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/adamrogo/NFEF2front.jpg[/*IMG]

[IMG]http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/adamrogo/NFEF2back.jpg[/*IMG][/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info, guys. That definitely explains why one of my pairs feels a lot stiffer than the other, it's heavier.

I've yet to look into much about fading but after seeing those pictures I just might have to.
 

TheSailerman

Neo Member
Button-down refers to the collar.

And now I know. Thanks. My parents have always referred to them as button-down, whether or not they had the collar buttons.

But then, my mom used to throw away the collar stays that came in my dad's shirts because she thought they were just part of the packaging (along with all the plastic, cardboard, pins, etc.). After I started working I asked if she had any extras, and now she knows they aren't just junk.
 

Magnus

Member
GAF, I'd never really bought a suit before, much less had one tailored. A friend helped me do both recently, but this tailored job just isn't sitting right. Being a novice, I smiled and nodded as a whole host of adjustments were being made by this 'master tailor', from hemming, to taking the jacket in, to shortening the sleeves a bit, to tucking in the butt, etc. to the tune of $120! I assume that's a lot, it's a lot to me.

After returning twice to see that further adjustments were needed, I thought I was happy with it and finally took the suit home. Wore it to a wedding this weekend and man, the jacket's just too tight, been taken in too much, to the point that people remarked on it (nice suit they said, but it looks tight - and feels it).

How does tailoring work? It's been less than a week; should i be able to take it back for further alterations at no extra cost? Can a jacket being taken in be reversed or is the stiching permanent?

I fucking hate formal wear. I can't believe I paid so much for personalized tailoring and the shit still doesn't even fit right. What a hassle.

Any and all advice welcome.
 
Another weekend away, another list of females thinking im gay because I give a shit about how I dress. Starting to be abit of a drag..

This is so frustrating. Dress nicely and certain women accuse you of being gay. Dress slouchy and certain women bitch about how you have no taste and don't care about your appearance.
 
This is so frustrating. Dress nicely and certain women accuse you of being gay. Dress slouchy and certain women bitch about how you have no taste and don't care about your appearance.

Man, I don't see women calling Harvey Specter gay cause of how fine he dresses.

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Any woman that would call him gay cause he knows how to look good is just outright stupid.
 
Anybody else see that Margiela and H&M are doing a collabo collection? Seems pretty interesting. But if there collabs with other high fashion brands are any indication it will be hard to get anything.
 
Anybody else see that Margiela and H&M are doing a collabo collection? Seems pretty interesting. But if there collabs with other high fashion brands are any indication it will be hard to get anything.

And will be almost as expensive as mainline margiela on eBay.

I don't see the point of this unless I can get disco trousers on the cheap.


Maybe you guys just shouldn't worry what people think. I mean, being gay isn't a bad thing as far as I know.
True, I stopped caring long ago, but I'm married and stuff.
 

Zilch

Banned
hey Manshion-GAF. I'm looking to buy a pair of chukkas/desert boots for the first time.

Was thinking something like these http://www.zappos.com/clarks-desert-boot-taupe-distressed-suede?zfcTest=fw:1

Yes/no?

Would also appreciate some tips on which color/material to get them in, I'm leaning toward the taupe or oakwood suede, or the olive or beeswax leather.

Can't really go wrong with Clarks as they're the standard... I'm wearing a beeswaxed pair right now (with these laces since the default Clarks laces are a little boring).

Also, Lands End Canvas is having a 60% off footwear sale until tomorrow and you could cop a pair of their chukkas on the cheap: http://canvas.landsend.com/canvas/index.html
 

Zilch

Banned
I'm nearly triple-posting here so sorry but I'm pretty disappointed that the annual Steven Alan sample sale is all online instead of in-store. Can't imagine all the flyover state plebs who are gonna cop my shirts in my sizes. :(
 
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