smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Well his super computer does it for him I guess. To many wasted characters in this. I had so much hype and it reached a little but not at all for the rest.
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Well his super computer does it for him I guess. To many wasted characters in this. I had so much hype and it reached a little but not at all for the rest.
The Return of
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Someone needs to really make me a bill cosby avatar with Bane's mask on it. Please.
Hero_of_the_Day
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Blake saw a rich person being fake, and knew they were Batman. Quality writing.
CosmicGroinPull
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No, Blake saw Bruce's playboy persona on TV and immediately recognised it as a facade.
The League of Shadows alumni network obviously.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Nolan always approached the movies like they were the last. Maybe the fact that this was REALLY the last one influenced how it was written. But the writing was definitely the weakest of the three.
Hero_of_the_Day
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I am not being sarcastic at all when I say I am completely jealous of anyone who feels this way.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Guess the hype got to him. I really would like to know his first ideas for this movie if Ledger was still alive.
HIGH DEF JEFF
Banned
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I think the story structure and characters(Rachael aside) were better developed and conceived in TDK. There's not a single new character who was good as Harvey Dent, or anyone who could feel the emotional hole of Alfred's sudden absence.
But I mean, the dialog has always been uh..."not-great" is the nice way to put it. And they've all had their plot holes and contrivances.
SuperAndroid17
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Lighten up already
Alright. So.
The ending felt Inception-esque.
Alfred was all like I take leave and imagine seeing you with wife and kids and shi, but I know it's not you.
Then he "sees" Bruce after he "survives" the atomic explosion.
Was it really him? Is he imagining things?
INCEPTION
also, what did Fox say was patched "6 months ago" at the end of the movie? Lots of people were still cheering at the Robin reveal so I missed the dialogue
The ending felt Inception-esque.
Alfred was all like I take leave and imagine seeing you with wife and kids and shi, but I know it's not you.
Then he "sees" Bruce after he "survives" the atomic explosion.
Was it really him? Is he imagining things?
INCEPTION
also, what did Fox say was patched "6 months ago" at the end of the movie? Lots of people were still cheering at the Robin reveal so I missed the dialogue
Hero_of_the_Day
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Haha. I'll need more time.
But the dialog in this one was like on another level of absurd. Then this old guy from nowhere talking about a "legend"....I can't count how many times i literally face palmed during this movie. Never been a big fan of the previous two movies but they were atleast passable.
And I completely pity people like you who can't enjoy simple actionhero movie like this.
But hey, there are other movies out there for you guys right.
Now you just have to move on.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
The auto pilot was fixed on The Bat.
HIGH DEF JEFF
Banned
Me too. Wanted to love it. Was ready to love it. I knew by scene 2 that the Bat engine wasnt running right. It was puttering, not humming.
Did the whole IMAX trilogy tonight. I used to think TDK was the best but now it is BB for me. I was very disappointed with TDKR overall. I will watch it again for sure but everything was just so convenient. I felt a bit insulted by just being told absolutely everything.
There was no "it" in TDKR.
There was no "it" in TDKR.
Thankfully I suspend disbelief when watching movies, and I didn't read any impressions or reviews or anything like that. I feel it would have taken away from how much I really enjoyed this movie. I went rocking my Nightwing shirt, and I was happy with the little Robin allusion. Great movie, overall. DK>DKR>BB and that's not saying BB was bad at all, they were all great movies.
That is absolutely insane.
WrenchNinja
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Nolan :bow:
Amazing SpiderMan 2 - 2014And I completely pity people like you who can't enjoy simple actionhero movie like this.
But hey, there are other movies out there for you guys right.
Now you just have to move on.
not counting on IM3 because Shane Black is directing it and it'll be awesome
HIGH DEF JEFF
Banned
2 of the people I went with tonight were happy to be reminded how great BB is. I was like...told you son.
Thats all they came away with after being there for 11 hours.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
The second act is just all kinds of bad. Exposition on top of exposition, the clumsy Occupy Wall Street movement plotlines that goes on and on until it gets pretty much dropped in the third act for cops vs bad guys and giant James Bond WMD. So much of the energy of the first act just gets sucked away, and the big finale can only do so much to redeem it.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
So it seems that the best thing from the trilogy showings tonight is that people are finally realizing how awesome Batman Begins actually was. Success!
Hero_of_the_Day
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And I completely pity people like you who can't enjoy simple actionhero movie like this.
But hey, there are other movies out there for you guys right.
Now you just have to move on.
I love all of Nolan's movies, other than Insomnia (haven't seen it). This was just not at all what I was expecting, or wanting. Just so lazy.
Same. I started to feel a bit better when Batman appeared. But, it didn't last long. I liked Bane, though. Think he may have been the only part I fully enjoyed. Catwoman was alright, but I didn't feel like they sold me on her remption at all. Didn't feel like she really had a character arc.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Well, when it is that good...
Garrett 2U
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Absolutely dreadful: the script, the characters, the twists, the "conclusion", everything.
I can't believe half of the entire plot was developed from a stupid letter Gordon wrote for some stupid speech that he didn't end up using.
Oh and apparently he has huge handwriting because Bane read three pages and said two sentences.
I feel like this was some throwaway script that had for Batman 2.
THE LEGEND WAS SUPPOSED TO END.
COME ON
I can't believe half of the entire plot was developed from a stupid letter Gordon wrote for some stupid speech that he didn't end up using.
Oh and apparently he has huge handwriting because Bane read three pages and said two sentences.
I feel like this was some throwaway script that had for Batman 2.
THE LEGEND WAS SUPPOSED TO END.
COME ON
It is good. But the second half is the worst part of the entire trilogy. Easily.
Seriously. Another thing, Whenever you get a chance to put the best scene in your 3hr+ movie in the first 6 minutes, ya just gotta do it. Then proceed to bombard us with meaninglessness monologues about destiny and morality. I can't believe i'm saying it but avengers was the better comic book movie this summer....and only because it never tried to be something it's not.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
The second act of TDKR is the worst stretch in the entire trilogy, and then some.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
I think you meant to say that the first half of Dark Knight Rises is the worst part of the entire trilogy.
While not as bad as the first act, it is still behind the second act of BB.
thecouncil
Banned
what?
he had the letter for a while. maybe he just read the parts that mattered?
Garrett 2U
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the whole reason the people of Gotham backed Bane is because they found out Gordon lied about how Dent died.
they found out because Bane happened upon the Gordon's letter.
I'm sorry, but what monologue about destiny?
Razgriz-Specter
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favorite of the 3 after my first viewing.
ThisWreckage
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Nolan's movies have always had cheesy parts of plot holes/gaps. For some reason, people chose to largely ignore those things in his first two Batman films. This film is going to be more "under the microscope" so expect people to ream him for those two trademarks in this film.
They used the Steelers.
apocalidiot
Banned
Fucking loved it, yet it's no surprise the people that hyped it the most hated it.
What was up with the scar on what's her face's back when her and Bruce were by the fireplace?
What was up with the scar on what's her face's back when her and Bruce were by the fireplace?
Great fucking movie will watch again, this is the trilogy we deserve etc.
My random knee jerk reactions to the movie:
*2 best scenes in the movie were definitely first Batman vs Bale fight and the whole build up to the Gotham getting blown up sequence.
*A ton of Bane snapping people's neck... fuck yes.
*The Bruce and Alfred face off right before Alfred leaves was very good at an emotional level.
*Anne did a great job as Catwoman as did most of the cast. TDKR continues the tradition of high quality casting in a Nolan Batman movie.
*General scale of the movie was immense, higher than anything in the trilogy so that's a fairly big plus point for the movie.
*Not as grim dark as I was told it was going to be. There was this brief time where the movie was fairly grim but then it was brought back to normal movie heroism with the movie finishing off in a rather feel good fashion. TDK was much more grim than this especially the end. I was also surprised by how few main character deaths there were considering this is supposed to be a finale... TDK had more main character deaths as well.
*I kept waiting for the Bane killing Alfred spoiler that someone ran on GAF... fuck whoever did that shit.
*Talia's death felt fairly cheap. To have such a harsh up bringing and to live through so much then to focus all your life effort towards one goal, slowly working towards it and then dying like that... just feels bad man. Bane's death also was meh, would've preferred if Batman did him in instead of Catwoman.
*Overall the movie had the least "low" points from the trilogy. There wasn't really anything I could point out in the movie on first viewing that was just awfully bad. Like there was no bad acting ship scene. However there weren't as many high points either, like there wasn't anything in the movie that was Joker level quality or at the level of first act of Batman Begins. I guess the Bane vs Batman fight comes close.
*I should've picked up Blake being Robin the moment he uttered that he was an orphan. His little monologue in front of Bruce should've been the clue but I didn't really read too much into it. It's really weird that my original hunch on him being Robin was right.
*The movie was very "safe" IMO. Lots of cameos, homages to the previous two movies, a ton of character juggling (which I am surprised the movie was even able to cope with it), safe ending, not many character deaths and no one element of the movie overshadowed the other. Stark contrast from TDK in that regard.
*I really liked the more focus on Bruce, I felt that was sorely missing from TDK. Bale really delivered here, it's about time too I was getting worried about him.
Oh and there wasn't really any real major flaw in this movie that wasn't in the previous 2 movies. I saw the whole trilogy and there is no doubt that TDKR is within the same vein. The trilogy is surprisingly consistent in pretty much everything both in its strengths and weaknesses.
My random knee jerk reactions to the movie:
*2 best scenes in the movie were definitely first Batman vs Bale fight and the whole build up to the Gotham getting blown up sequence.
*A ton of Bane snapping people's neck... fuck yes.
*The Bruce and Alfred face off right before Alfred leaves was very good at an emotional level.
*Anne did a great job as Catwoman as did most of the cast. TDKR continues the tradition of high quality casting in a Nolan Batman movie.
*General scale of the movie was immense, higher than anything in the trilogy so that's a fairly big plus point for the movie.
*Not as grim dark as I was told it was going to be. There was this brief time where the movie was fairly grim but then it was brought back to normal movie heroism with the movie finishing off in a rather feel good fashion. TDK was much more grim than this especially the end. I was also surprised by how few main character deaths there were considering this is supposed to be a finale... TDK had more main character deaths as well.
*I kept waiting for the Bane killing Alfred spoiler that someone ran on GAF... fuck whoever did that shit.
*Talia's death felt fairly cheap. To have such a harsh up bringing and to live through so much then to focus all your life effort towards one goal, slowly working towards it and then dying like that... just feels bad man. Bane's death also was meh, would've preferred if Batman did him in instead of Catwoman.
*Overall the movie had the least "low" points from the trilogy. There wasn't really anything I could point out in the movie on first viewing that was just awfully bad. Like there was no bad acting ship scene. However there weren't as many high points either, like there wasn't anything in the movie that was Joker level quality or at the level of first act of Batman Begins. I guess the Bane vs Batman fight comes close.
*I should've picked up Blake being Robin the moment he uttered that he was an orphan. His little monologue in front of Bruce should've been the clue but I didn't really read too much into it. It's really weird that my original hunch on him being Robin was right.
*The movie was very "safe" IMO. Lots of cameos, homages to the previous two movies, a ton of character juggling (which I am surprised the movie was even able to cope with it), safe ending, not many character deaths and no one element of the movie overshadowed the other. Stark contrast from TDK in that regard.
*I really liked the more focus on Bruce, I felt that was sorely missing from TDK. Bale really delivered here, it's about time too I was getting worried about him.
Oh and there wasn't really any real major flaw in this movie that wasn't in the previous 2 movies. I saw the whole trilogy and there is no doubt that TDKR is within the same vein. The trilogy is surprisingly consistent in pretty much everything both in its strengths and weaknesses.
He's also the only person in town with the motive and resources to be Batman.
The last stretches of all of Nolan's Batman movies are ridiculous. TDKR just continues the trend. At least the threat to Gotham was less absurd than in TDK or BB.
Better fight scenes than usual, but I felt that the fights with Bane lacked impact during them. It looked and sounded like Batman and Bane were slap boxing half the time.
Edit: I got to see it early on the WC thanks to a theater mishap.
TheAtomicPile
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Oh, boy, I can tell this is going to be another one of "those movies" for GAF. You know, the ones that are actually very good, but are shit on repeatedly because it's the cool, contrarian thing to do.
I should probably stay away from further GAF discussions of this movie.
I should probably stay away from further GAF discussions of this movie.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
TDK had the least absurd. At least it was just regular bombs on boats there and not microwave emitters or atomic cores that are decaying.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
If you're gonna accuse any and all complaints about a film you enjoy being "hate because it's cool", PLEASE stay away while everyone else tries to have an actual discussion about the film's merits and flaws.
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