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To be fair, does any country in the world have a better K/D ratio? Stricly speaking military here, no civilians.
You guys win every war, and then some.
Yeah true
To be fair, does any country in the world have a better K/D ratio? Stricly speaking military here, no civilians.
You guys win every war, and then some.
didn't NBC cut the entire tribute to the tragedy from their coverage of the Opening ceremony?
thats wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more offensive than some off the cuff remark on twitter.
I thought that was what Wilbury was talking about.
But I thought we were all supposed to be angry?!?!She's making a semi-self-deprecating joke about Americans, of which she is one. Nothing to see here folks.
Is it racist to associate blacks people with ebonics?
So it hasn't at all evolved out of Ebonics, a distinctly African American dialect?
Is she still a virgin if she takes it in da butt?
Yes it is. The term "ebonics" is racist. It infers that Black people, as a whole, speak some sub-component of English.
Again, the term is racist in nature. I am Black and guess what? I speak English. I'm American as well.
In your mind, am I speaking the incorrect language, given your association of Black people = Ebonics?
Yes, it's the internet, and people don't always hold expectations for that kind of thing on Twitter/IMs/etc. But she's a public figure, and I feel she can afford to not write/sound like a kid.
We didn't win every war.To be fair, does any country in the world have a better K/D ratio? Stricly speaking military here, no civilians.
You guys win every war, and then some.
Yes it is. The term "ebonics" is racist. It infers that Black people, as a whole, speak some sub-component of English.
Again, the term is racist in nature. I am Black and guess what? I speak English. I'm American as well.
In your mind, am I speaking the incorrect language, given your association of Black people = Ebonics?
nah...ebonics is a dialectYes it is. The term "ebonics" is racist. It infers that Black people, as a whole, speak some sub-component of English.
Again, the term is racist in nature. I am Black and guess what? I speak English. I'm American as well.
In your mind, am I speaking the incorrect language, given your association of Black people = Ebonics?
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It's not racist. And nobody said as a whole. African American Vernacular English (or ebonics) is a real thing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_American_Vernacular_English
nah...ebonics is a dialect
The variety known as "Ebonics," "African American Vernacular English" (AAVE), and "Vernacular Black English" and by other names is systematic and rule-governed like all natural speech varieties. In fact, all human linguistic systems -- spoken, signed, and written -- are fundamentally regular. The systematic and expressive nature of the grammar and pronunciation patterns of the African American vernacular has been established by numerous scientific studies over the past thirty years. Characterizations of Ebonics as "slang," "mutant," "lazy," "defective," "ungrammatical," or "broken English" are incorrect and demeaning.Awesome.
So where is the equivalent link of the European_American_Vernacular_English for White people that speak broken English?
is demeaning too.It is a broken version of English that has direct ties to Southern American English but to be cute or whatever, it was deemed "Ebonics". .
What point are you attempting to make? That I referred to it as "broken English?"
The point is, there is no equivalent (wiki page and whatnot) for White people that speak an, uh..."different" dialect of English than the American norm.
Where is the Ivorionics page?
That's why it's racist, imo.
Yes it is. The term "ebonics" is racist. It infers that Black people, as a whole, speak some sub-component of English.
The term hick could be used to describe a white subculture that can also cover a pattern of speech.
i.e. he or she talks like a goddamn hick.
I'm not saying you are wrong, but I dont think the poster who got banned intended to be racist and offend anyone with that crappy joke about ghetto talk. If he did and has a history of doing that kind of shit, then good riddance and here's hoping its a perma.
I don't feel ebonics is racist or wrong either. There's no universal correct language. Ebonics, at least in every context I see, is used to describe the dialect that we're all pretty familiar with now.
Annnnd that's why it's a sensitive area for me. When I have people (I have never met before) give me a look of shock when I speak and then proceed to tell me, "Wow, you speak so well" it can be directly tied to an expectation that because I'm Black, I must speak "Ebonics".
And before you say, "Well, maybe they just felt you spoke well and wanted to tell you...gosh, that's not racist, ryutaro's mama!"just know that, throughout my entire life, I have been in the company of White friends that speak equally well (in some cases better) and I'm ALWAYS the one singled out for this "praise".
Not a single one of them have ever been told that.
Ever.
I don't see how this is a response to the bolded.
the dialect that we're all pretty familiar with now.
It's a response because, when you say it's
to that end, you're right, people are familiar with the term and as a result, a lot of (not all) people apply a blanket and assume that that is what Black people speak. (hence, the reason I responded to GavinGT in the first place)
That's where (imo) the shock comes from when I just speak normal English instead of the expected "Ebonics".
So saying ebonics is racist now too? Lol k.
I didn't even mention you .... lolSo you didn't bother reading what I said and why I said it? Lol k.
I didn't even mention you .... lol.
Everything must be about you. Other people were discussing the term. And its not a driveby post considering this is my 3rd post. A driveby post is when you leave 1 comment to rile ppl up and you never return. Think you should calm down a bit no offense.I'm the one that opened the discussion on it here for the most part. Not sure anyone else did....lol.
Like I said, way to not read what anyone said on the subject and commence to a driveby posting with a "lol".
And for the record, I never once addressed Bacon or whatever his name was.
For the record I think its an interesting discussion but I don't really want to spend time arguing with peopleI'm the one that really had the discussion on it here for the most part. Not sure anyone else did....lol.
Like I said, way to not read what anyone said on the subject and commence to a driveby posting with a "lol".
And for the record, I never once addressed Bacon or whatever his name was.
Can he say why is she typing ghetto? Is that ok? White, spanish, blacks, can all live in ghettos. I am sure that's racist as hell too though to some folks.I just thought about something...who cares if Bacon was euro or not.
That is somehow an excuse to say the reason that Lolo Jones posted like that is because she was trying to sound Black?
Did they stop having Black people in Europe?
Is that how he as a European thinks Black people speak?
Why in your mind Riggs, does the possibility that he MIGHT be Euro, make that ok?
Can he say why is she typing ghetto? Is that ok? White, spanish, blacks, can all live in ghettos. I am sure that's racist as hell too though to some folks.
Uhm doesn't make it ok but if he doesn't know any better at least that's a better excuse.If you live in some remote place outside of the states maybe he didn't know he was being insensitive?
Sorry for not condemning him with an ironfist at zero second hour .... He could be racist as fuck, I don't know!
Can he say why is she typing ghetto? Is that ok? White, spanish, blacks, can all live in ghettos. I am sure that's racist as hell too though to some folks.
Uhm doesn't make it ok but if he doesn't know any better at least that's a better excuse. If you live in some remote place outside of the states maybe he didn't know he was being insensitive? Sorry for not condemning him with an ironfist at zero second hour .... He could be racist as fuck, I don't know!
Yay! Let's play the hypothetical game instead of actually answering what I asked
or
addressing what he DID say which was, "why is she trying to sound Black?"
LOL @ him not knowing any better. He knew enough to say that she was trying to sound Black, based solely on a poorly worded tweet.
But let's look for reasons to make him possibly ignorant of what he was saying!
Who called for him to be "condemned with a an ironfist at zero second hour"? Certainly not I.
You should really calm down dude.
You should really calm down dude.
I don't think Riggs is the one that's riled up in this debate.
Think you should calm down a bit no offense.
^^Well said.^^Come on. For him to say, "Why is she trying to talk like she's black?" implies that he has a stereotypical at best, racist at worst viewpoint of black people and how they speak or attempt to portray themselves. It could be ignorance, but bad grammar or shortening tweets are not exclusive to any race. Race really should have never been brought into the discussion, since it was irrelevant to the topic at hand.
Come on. For him to say, "Why is she trying to talk like she's black?" implies that he has a stereotypical at best, racist at worst viewpoint of black people and how they speak or attempt to portray themselves. It could be ignorance, but bad grammar or shortening tweets are not exclusive to any race. Race really should have never been brought into the discussion, since it was irrelevant to the topic at hand.
It was sarcastic response to where told me to calm down.
...when I've been calm the whole time.
...when I've been calm the whole time.
Thats what I was thinking. Any American who has a shred of awareness about such things would never say that. A lot of non American posters on gaf also and they know better too. But i am sure there are some who do not, if he was one of them I couldn't tell ya.I don't understand how drawing conclusions from his sentence deemed him as a racist or stereotypical. There exists a library of words that originated from the African American Vernacular. As such, it is common for people to associate these words with their culture.
Is this calm in the same way people don't actually laugh when they type out LOL?
I don't understand how drawing conclusions from his sentence deemed him as a racist or stereotypical. There exists a library of words that originated from the African American Vernacular. As such, it is common for people to associate these words with their culture.
Wow.
Ok, spiderman123.
Tell me all about my culture, since those words (that I don't use, btw) are assigned with my culture.
Please.