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Most absurdly overpowered superhero?

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so, what if she fights something that isn't alive?
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it's conscious. still counts.

Hell the 'big bad' in serial experiments was a guy who killed himself so he could become one with the wired.
 
Show me a manga page that Kuma has the capability of pulling the moon. WB the strongest character in the manga is an island buster at best. And you're trying to argue that Kuma can do a feat that puts the strongest man in the world to absolute shame? Come on, son.

It's cute if you think WB really is the strongest character in OP. Kizaru can definitely beat White Beard, he didn't even break a sweat in the war.

Kuma can deflect anything he touches, why would he be limited to small objects? when did they say it had limits?


Kizaru can only move at the speed of light when he travels as light itself. You seriously think all the One Piece high tiers who can react to him are FTL?

And Kuma deflecting the moon? What the fuck.

You're just making stuff up.

Characters like Piccolo Daimao and Piccolo, way weaker than Raditz, could blow up islands in DB. Nobody in One Piece, outside of Whitebeard, has shown the ability to do that.

What characters reacted to him? He hasn't even been beaten. He hasn't even broken a sweat against anyone yet. He's always sarcastic and claiming how powerful his enemy is and just plays with him. Also, he kicks at the speed of light, it's even in the manga, how the hell are you going to tell me he can't attack while moving at speed of light? what the fuck? Just because they have to limit him in his own universe doesn't mean he will me limited on another's. Fact is, manga says he move at speed of light, kicks at speed of light and that logias have unlimited energy and are intangible unless you use haki.

so aizen just has some uber evil version of a soul candy because.... because you want him to?

The seperated soul would still be able to fight aizen and the body would keep living under the care of the artifical soul until aizen is trashed enough for whoever aizen is fighting to ask for his or her body back.

It's not just candies though, there are the gloves and other items too, like Kisuke's cane. I'm obviously speaking hypothetically, an outcome that could happen. Like someone said before, these vs matches between different universes ends up being won by your favorite one. In reality, if both characters would suddenly fight, there wouldn't be an outcome. Aizen is immortal and Goku cannot be physically killed by Aizen. So they would probably end up going to Goku's house and eating some of Chichi's food.
 
Is their a non-joke consensus to this?

I thought it would be Dr. Manhattan since he can control shit at the atomic level.

But then you guys starting going on about people who can break space time and physics and are for all intensive purposes, Gods.
 
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Beyonder was a God. The only reason he died was because he was turning himself mortal. He was, for all intents and purposes, omniscient.
 
Is their a non-joke consensus to this?

I thought it would be Dr. Manhattan since he can control shit at the atomic level.

But then you guys starting going on about people who can break space time and physics and are for all intensive purposes, Gods.

I always thought it was a myth that people actually did this, but now I see that I was mistaken.

But yeah, Doctor Manhattan is extremely powerful but also has some pretty serious limitations in terms of scope and his ability to wield his powers indiscriminately.
 
it's conscious. still counts.

Hell the 'big bad' in serial experiments was a guy who killed himself so he could become one with the wired.

that was a living guy who killed himself. The ghost rider is something that was never alive in the first place. It was never alive, and will never "die" per se. it's not a living thing.

and some machines (machine man, for instance) are also conscious, yet not living. are they also part of it?

I've watched lain, don't get me wrong- but that was well over a decade ago. I don't recall anything really being in "manipulation of cosmic forces" territory though.

I always thought it was a myth that people actually did this, but now I see that I was mistaken.

But yeah, Doctor Manhattan is extremely powerful but also has some pretty serious limitations in terms of scope and his ability to wield his powers indiscriminately.

The first time i saw someone type the phrase "might as well" as "minds a well" it damn near broke my brain.

Beyonder was a God. The only reason he died was because he was turning himself mortal. He was, for all intents and purposes, omniscient.

Beyonder was omnipotent (all-powerful) not omnicient (all-knowing). the whole point of secret wars II is that he was clueless about humanity and the marvel universe, and wanted to know more.
 
Aizen definitely fits the bill of being damn near broken for his own universe, despite not being relatively powerful compared to some of the cosmic beings listed here.
 
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for sure.

Paul Jenkins' The Sentry is still a masterpiece in my opinion. Still waiting for them to somehow give him the comeback he deserves. Early Sentry arc from New Avengers is what I want them to return to.
 
that was a living guy who killed himself. The ghost rider is something that was never alive in the first place.

and some machines (machine man, for instance) are also conscious, yet not living. are they also part of it?
Lain does a lot of stuff with computers and machines since it was the internet that basically caused the world and the wired to recognize each other iirc.

no never living ghosts or conscious machines in lain though, so... i dunno if ghost rider would be a unique exception.

I've watched lain, don't get me wrong- but that was well over a decade ago. I don't recall anything really being in "manipulation of cosmic forces" territory though.
It wasn't really the focus of it. The most you see is matter control, messing with time and deleting/creating people/events.

Her even accepting her position as God basically came on the back of her deciding to be passive.
 
What about Superboy-Prime? Dude fucking punched reality so hard it splintered.
 
Half the casts of Dragon Ball Z can just fly out to space and blow away the Earth. Let's not do something futile like comparing them to other animeverse.
 
Do we know that? Manhattan's full powers are never really explored in the book, I wonder what he would be like after several millennia of self-exploration.

you could apply this to just about anyone though.

Superman in the 853rd century (as shown in DC 1 million) was a totally different entity after wandering the galaxy for 15 thousand years and exiling himself to the center of the sun.
 
What characters reacted to him? He hasn't even been beaten. He hasn't even broken a sweat against anyone yet. He's always sarcastic and claiming how powerful his enemy is and just plays with him. Also, he kicks at the speed of light, it's even in the manga, how the hell are you going to tell me he can't attack while moving at speed of light? what the fuck? Just because they have to limit him in his own universe doesn't mean he will me limited on another's. Fact is, manga says he move at speed of light, kicks at speed of light and that logias have unlimited energy and are intangible unless you use haki.

Do you read One Piece? His attacks have been countered by Rayleigh, Marco and Whitebeard. And he's clearly weaker than Whitebeard, Shanks, Sengoku, Akainu and possibly other people like Big Mom, Kaidou, Garp, etc.

So are you saying all these people are FTL?
 
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Beyonder was a God. The only reason he died was because he was turning himself mortal. He was, for all intents and purposes, omniscient.
Last thing I remember of him was in Illuminati, which I enjoyed;

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But he's hardly a recurring character in any meaningful sense. I'm still largely clueless about him.
 
Do we know that? Manhattan's full powers are never really explored in the book, I wonder what he would be like after several millennia of self-exploration.
Has anybody read Dr. Manhattan's first issue of Before Watchman? Just wondering if this is going to explore that question.
 
Do you read One Piece? His attacks have been countered by Rayleigh, Marco and Whitebeard. And he's clearly weaker than Whitebeard, Shanks, Sengoku, Akainu and possibly other people like Big Mom, Kaidou, Garp, etc.

So are you saying all these people are FTL?

Trust me, I've read it and seen it and he's always sarcastic and plays with his enemy, it's pretty obvious. It's just as obvious as Aokiji being the lazy one that doesn't want to fight and Akainu being the ruthless one that doesn't waste a second. Every single enemy he has fought with he mocks them, calling them scary and strong. Even marco the phoenix claimed that he was lying. He has never had a bruise and has never dropped a sweat. When he fought against Rayleigh he was toying with him, Rayleigh was sweating while Kizaru was, once again, mocking him by calling him strong and scary. No one has reacted against him. The only two times he was blocked was because he was charging an attack and talking, like Rayleigh blocking his charged leg beam and Marco blocking his charged beams he threw while speaking. Face it, he doesn't fit the OP universe so they dumb him down by making him sarcastic and having him toy with his enemies. So tell me, the manga didn't say he moved at speed of light, have unlimited energy, have a speed of light kick, etc?? am I wrong?

Edit: Just remembered that Whitebeard tried to attack Kizaru and wasn't able to, then he held his sword with his foot and started blasting at Whitebeard while laughing.

Him reacting to marco: http://youtu.be/TdBRcZ2ftKg?t=2m36s

Edit: Youtube doesn't have the videos so:

http://www.mangareader.net/103-45523-8/one-piece/chapter-571.html

http://www.mangareader.net/103-42471-9/one-piece/chapter-568.html

He was the only admiral who didn't bleed in the war. He was probably the only person who didn't bleed or sweat.
 
Do you read One Piece? His attacks have been countered by Rayleigh, Marco and Whitebeard. And he's clearly weaker than Whitebeard, Shanks, Sengoku, Akainu and possibly other people like Big Mom, Kaidou, Garp, etc.

So are you saying all these people are FTL?

I'm just loling at him thinking that OP universe can even stand a ghost of a chance against DBZ. OP is seriously on the low-tier power wise.

Hell, YYH would stomp the OP verse.
 
Spider-Man's new sidekick Alpha is pretty op. He power draws from the universe itself and will basically keep growing with no upper limit (assuming he sticks around past his debut arc lol)

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Last thing I remember of him was in Illuminati, which I enjoyed;

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But he's hardly a recurring character in any meaningful sense. I'm still largely clueless about him.

like any marvel character that's been around for any significant amount of time, his history is convoluted.

When he appeared in the 1980s- he was massively powerful, to the point of absurdity. After that appearance, his existence (as well as the makeup of the marvel universe) was rewritten to make it a little less ludicrous.

I won't get into details, but he's stronger than someone like Thor or the Surfer, but not in the league of Galactus, or a Celestial, or the Living Tribunal.
 
like any marvel character that's been around for any significant amount of time, his history is convoluted.

When he appeared in the 1980s- he was massively powerful, to the point of absurdity. After that appearance, his existence (as well as the makeup of the marvel universe) was rewritten to make it a little less ludicrous.

I won't get into details, but he's stronger than someone like Thor or the Surfer, but not in the league of Galactus, or a Celestial, or the Living Tribunal.

Now or then? Back in the day he had a fight with some dude (Molecule Man?) where they were throwing planets and entire solar systems at each other. Entire solar systems man!
 
Now or then? Back in the day he had a fight with some dude (Molecule Man?) where they were throwing planets and entire solar systems at each other. Entire solar systems man!

All the stuff that happened back then got rewritten as the higher powers "just messing with him." He's probably still strong enough to throw planets though.
 
Franklin Richards. As a kid, he's made a pocket universe under his covers. As an adult, he made fucking Galactus his herald.

Also wasn't Gambit supposed to be like, some ridiculous powerful mutant that could manipulate kinetic energy, but then got depowered in some way or another?

Yeah. He could destroy thing by looking at them, become energy, go through time and space, destroy things with a glance, etc.
 
sylar from the show Heroes. For some reason they thought it would be cool to have this stupidly unstoppable villain only to find out a season later that there's no non ridiculous way to have him stopped or slowed down.
 
Don't the native life forms die of suffocation, freeze and radiation hazard when supes moves them from one place to another? Doesn't that make Supes a mass murderer?

they wouldnt suffocate at all, they might freeze depending how long supes takes to move them and the radiathan threat also depends on the route.
 
skylar from the show Heroes. For some reason they thought it would be cool to have this stupidly unstoppable villain only to find out a season later that there's no non ridiculous way to have him stopped or slowed down.

So instead they totally nerfed the only good guy that could compete. Brilliant!


they wouldnt suffocate at all, they might freeze depending how long supes takes to move them and the radiathan threat also depends on the route.

He probably just projects his aura around the planet to protect them.
 
Love having some Jojo rep in this thread.

Too bad TTGL is always named in these types of threads but Demonbane is excluded.

franklin richards hasnt been brought up if im aware, if that makes you feel any better.

that and ttgl is seriously outclassed here. and fuck that "do the impossible" shit
 
Aizen's mere presence kills people, he has a sword that warps senses, flash steps (the same dbz nonsense), bankai, and ll 99 magic without the need for incantations. Raditz would die ten times over. lol. Saiyans are written dumb as bricks and would let him set up the deep troll.

In terms of heroes from games:

-Bayonetta

-DMC 2 Dante: He's killing gods and damn near gdlk by the end.

-Firebrand: He was really broken at the end of his game. Might not fit the hero definition though.

-Viewtiful Joe: Pretty sure he was on some god tier nonsense at the end of his game. Controlling time and all that jazz.


edit: How broken would JoJo be if he had actually practiced timestop, like Dio was? lol
 
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Beyonder was a God. The only reason he died was because he was turning himself mortal. He was, for all intents and purposes, omniscient.

he couldnt mess with the phoenix force though, he wasnt omniscient he was the only entity within his universe and therefore powerful as shit. Dr Doom stole some of his power too, in the grand scheme of things he comes to mind but he's one of many super powered beings/entities in comics.
 
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