Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
We don't know who's making the music this time around though :/
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Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII announced for 2013 [Up3: Famitsu Details]
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H_Prestige
Banned
Yes, cause after two shitty FFXIII games it's totally unreasonable to not want a third. You have to be some brainwashed Versus fanatic.
ashrafazlan
Banned
I wonder how they'll handle the story. I don't know what was going on with 13's ending and 13-2 made it even messier.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
If you expect a sequel to Type 0, it isn't going to be what you expect.
Firstly, at no point did I ever say Versus' sales might not be affected by anything, so I have no idea why you're even discussing that.
Secondly, games have sold very well post the launch of successive platforms.
Thirdly, you don't know SE wouldn't release two Final Fantasies in the same year. In fact, using your model, XIV ARR can't even come out next year, which is of course completely false.
If there is an Ito team, they're only mustering one game per generation at best so far, and XII was a mess, I can't see how they could effectively turn out great games consistently on a three year rotation.
taizuke
Member
You have a point but they mentioned production began in August of this year. So, production time will be 1 year and a half at best.
To be fair, she's not even that hot. Serah would have been a better fit for that painting.
Sigh...I can actually imagine Toriyama thinking this.
Also watch the game having a similar scene as in FFX-2 when you changed your clothes and the characters were pretty much naked for a while. Fragment skills return with the ability to slow down this animation and give you the control of the camera.
I said people in this thread. Most people here and in the Storm Gathers thread were making fun of the franchise but in a light-hearted manner. Most people that played FFXIII-2 actually enjoyed it and want to see how the story will be concluded. And now we get this..honestly this could have been a 3DS or Vita game while FFXIII-3 was being made that was actually set right after the ending and affected the characters that were established.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Wrong. They said it went into full production a month ago.
Half the team was already working on it beforehand.
H_Prestige
Banned
Correct me if I'm wrong, but XIII-2, XIV, and XIII-3 are all in different fiscal years.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Too young
BlazingDarkness
Member
No, because it's not Versus people don't want to know.
They could reveal FFXV and all we'd hear is 'WHERES VERSUS OMG U SUCK SE' or something like this.
XIII-2 isn't shit.
Meccanical
Member
Too young
She's 21...
Not how you spell Fang.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
BlazingDarkness
Member
Provided they get a lot of men working on it, that's plenty of time, we can assume the concept production is finished.
Hmm...well to be fair I never played the game and only read Tabata quotes but I heard there's room for a direct sequel but there's also room for Final Fantasy to Final Fantasy II kind of sequel.
Well that's true I guess. Though looking at this, Itos team was probably helping create Crystal tools as was pretty much everyone at Square until 2009. Then, eversince FF 14 fuck-up everyone at square seems to be be at work trying to fix that game. They even admitted it will cause a delay of 2-3 years on other project. So honestly Ito's game could very well be in the same situation as Nomura's- years of pre-production while helping out other titles and no real production yet.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Looks younger ._. Lightning would be more fitted for the picture with roses!
H_Prestige
Banned
Unless FFXV were being made by the XIII team, I can guarantee you that its announcement would not be drowned out by Versus whiners. Just check out that agni's demo thread.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Only bad thing about it is the writing, and the story/characters aren't to everyone's taste. As a game it has plenty to offer, unlike the original.
Too young
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Didn't find Fang that hot really. Honestly, Serah was probably the best looking from the cast, though she was much a 'random anime girl animated in Crystal Tools' design.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
A sequel could take place in a different cycle of events where everything occurs differently. Or go the direct sequel route either in the future or the past.
Or Type-1 being a spiritual sequel like FF to FF2 and so on.
Meccanical
Member
Yeah, Serah looked 14 even in XIII-2.
If that picture isn't Lightning naked in a bed filled with roses I will seriously be disappointed.
(._.)
The Anti-Monitor
Banned
Ah well, suddenly her looking 14 is kay.
Given we don't have actual release dates for XIV:AR or LR:FFXIII, I can't possibly know, nor can you.
If XIV isn't ready for before the end of March, and they have to delay it, and LR:FFXIII is ready for a December '13 release, I really doubt SE are going to delay it four months to move it to the next fiscal year, but we shall see.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
And therein lies the problem. The writing and how it is executed. Things are not explained as they should be, and now we have potentially a big timeskip to deal with.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Versus is not made by the XIII team, and yet the whiners are rampant, like I said earlier, it's mostly blind hate for one, and blind loyalty for the other. People have made their minds up about such games before knowing much of anything about them. Using XIII/XIII-2 as an indication for LR's quality is iffy considering how different it's being designed, and I wouldn't say XIII was a good indication of how XIII-2 was either.
Yes the writing will probably continue to suck, but Versus XIII will probably have KH quality writing so pot kettle and all that.
XIV is scheduled for this FY according to their IR reports and the game's road-map they released late last year. They've have been on track so far based on that road-map I think
Yes, and if it slips, it won't.
I will NOT read that spoiler...strong temptation to overcome. I still blindly believe Type-0 will come to the west.
Many asian girls do, just as many western 14 year olds try to make themselves look like they're 21.
Look at the FFXIV thread. We all know that FFXIV is actually derailing Versus (Wada stated that all HD projects will be 2-3 years late due to people working on Versus) and no one is complaining there. Rather everyone seems ecstatic about the game. And this is considering the fact that the original FFXIV was awful.
Exentryk
Member
I felt the same. Didn't complain about Versus, since Agni was so much win.
How dare you question Nojima's superior writing skills. He's one of the last people that works with Square who can write a good game.
H_Prestige
Banned
So that proves SE doesn't want to release more than one FF per FY. Versus can't be on track for 2013 FY because XIII-3 is currently taking up that spot.
BlazingDarkness
Member
That's because we saw the trailer, which is the one mistake SE made in this reveal, if we'd seen a trailer ourselves I'd imagine a lot of the blind criticism would be silenced
Meccanical
Member
The biggest problem I see with this game is that it is bound to a trainwreck of a story.
If they can use the past events just as a premise and then develop a completely new story with new characters and an actual open world, it might be fine but if they want to continue to talk about goddesses, time paradoxes, visions, Lightining trapped in a 4D world...well it just sucks.
Btw I'm not buying the game, at this point I just want Versus.
If they can use the past events just as a premise and then develop a completely new story with new characters and an actual open world, it might be fine but if they want to continue to talk about goddesses, time paradoxes, visions, Lightining trapped in a 4D world...well it just sucks.
Btw I'm not buying the game, at this point I just want Versus.
BlazingDarkness
Member
A lot of people have this view, but what if this game shows a lot of promise, as we learn more about it, and what if Versus became a disappointment compared to it's astronomical expectations?
Ya'll want Versus despite knowing little about it, and because it's something other than FFXIII, and yet LR looks like a big departure from what we know XIII to be, and we also know little about it, yet the latter is a no no?
It proves they want one a year, we know they do. However, if circumstances force their hand to delay games, two within a fiscal year is far more likely than delaying the following game out off fiscal I believe.
You said Versus will launch at least a year after PS4 launches. Presuming PS4 is November '13, and given SE's preference for December in Japan, presumably you're suggesting it's December '14 in Japan, probably February '15 in the West? I'm suggesting, if XIV is delayed past March, it won't effect the release of LR:FFXIII/Versus XIII. They will be out whenever SE strategically target their releases, if they're ready to ship.
Ultimately launching past a new system means very little, GoW2 launched the March after PS3, and still sold more than three million units. It's not an ideal situation, but SE has chosen to compromise the release of Versus in order to get XIV ARR done before the generation ends. Personally I think that's a mistake, but they have to now deal with the repercussions of constantly back seating Versus. Would it sell better next February than two years later? Most likely, I never said otherwise.
huh? i would of have said 14 at best.
I felt like a pedophile just playing the demo :s
Monocle
Member
Not having played FFXIII (it's still stuck in the backlog), I suppose I don't have much business saying that its world seems significantly less appealing than that of any other Final Fantasy released in the last decade. Is that an unfair assessment?
I wish FFX or FFXII had been given the multiple games treatment. We got FFX-2, sure, but that's nothing compared to what we're seeing with FFXIII. For reasons I don't understand, Square Enix seems especially adamant that FFXIII become a franchise unto itself.
I wish FFX or FFXII had been given the multiple games treatment. We got FFX-2, sure, but that's nothing compared to what we're seeing with FFXIII. For reasons I don't understand, Square Enix seems especially adamant that FFXIII become a franchise unto itself.
I honestly doubt any trailer that they could show for this would be on par with Agni.
As I've said already, they want this game to be bought by the fans of previous two titles and yet they're trying desperately to not be associated with the previous two titles at the same time.
The world in FFXIII is great. Lots of lore and the world is genuinely interesting. Now your interaction with the world is where the games fail. This game, however, seems to have a completely different world, with a different name and aesthetic.
BlazingDarkness
Member
The world and lore are pretty great, it's the writing and characters that drag it down. It screams wasted potential, maybe SE realise that and want to make up for it with LR, which has a greater focus on world exploration and freedom
Exentryk
Member
Even if they made a simple game with Lightning waking up from crystal sleep and journeying on getting all of the other characters along the way, and then fighting Bhunivelze on the 13th ark or something like that, the game would have been acceptable.
Want to add improvements? Create a huge open explorable world. That's it. I would've bought it.
Now, LR has an big open explorable world (from the looks of it anyway), but they had to spoil the experience of exploration by adding a timer element to it.
Also, I don't like not having a party. Maybe they'll show something later that proves otherwise. Also, the battle system may indeed be a lot of fun. My pessimism is coming from the fact that it will eventually get boring with only having one character.
I dunno. Need a gameplay trailer.
Want to add improvements? Create a huge open explorable world. That's it. I would've bought it.
Now, LR has an big open explorable world (from the looks of it anyway), but they had to spoil the experience of exploration by adding a timer element to it.
Also, I don't like not having a party. Maybe they'll show something later that proves otherwise. Also, the battle system may indeed be a lot of fun. My pessimism is coming from the fact that it will eventually get boring with only having one character.
I dunno. Need a gameplay trailer.
BlazingDarkness
Member
FFXIII is a bad game IMO, there's just not enough 'game' there.
XIII-2 went a long way in remedying the problems with it, a nice amount of exploration and whatnot
XIII-2 went a long way in remedying the problems with it, a nice amount of exploration and whatnot
well, right. subbing it was probably not a good idea anyway, I'm seeing people mocking them with pics of those :s
Two issues with me, first I just don't like the FFXIII world, story and characters, although Lightining is effectively the best one.
Second thing, I'm 29 and at this point I'm not spending tons of hours in a RPG to be fooled with a crazy/crappy story which doesn't make any sense.
Toriyama and co. want to create the drama at all costs, but they can't come up with anything which is credible and doesn't feel awkward (ex. the girl with visions in FFXIII-2, the whole goddess and Caius thing).
In this sense I'm not giving them my money fore something which continues what I strongly disliked (FFXIII-2, the first FF game I've ever sold).
If as I said, this ends up being a completely new game about Lightining and they cut the bonds with the stupid past to create a new story with a new world and compelling open world gameplay, I might consider it, but at this point the only SE game from the japanese branch that I'm honestly looking forward to play is Versus, then if even that will suck when it's released Square Enix is pretty much done with japanese RPGs.