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[aparisi2274]

There was some story about some dude getting arrested for getting caught taking upshirt shots.
Convenience store cameras showed it all.

Man uses cell phone to look under woman's skirt

This is what the girl looks like....

shudder....

 

[T.M. MacReady]

I wish photographing people in public places was illegal so these dangerous perverts could be thrown in jail. For life preferably.

lol, life in prison for an ass shot?

 

[Anton Sugar]

So I have a question for the women here.

What's worst: A bunch of guys coming over to "talk" to you or creeps snapping photos any chance they get?

I know neither is right but I only ask because there's these two women who work out at the gym I go to and they wear those yoga pants that attract a lot of attention. Most of the guys get distracted by them and go over to harass them trying to get their numbers. The women complain about it, they continue to go just as provocative and do those crazy stretches. You can't expect a straight guy to not feel a certain way when he says beautiful women doing these crazy positions and not react. I'm no perv or anything and I'm married but I can't lie about the distractions those women bring.

To me it seems like they want that attention but get mad when someone provokes them

Edit: btw this happens like every other day at my gym

You're assuming they want attention. It is possible that a subset of "yoga pants" women want attention, but it's a dangerous assumption to make, just because you are attracted to them.

Using the "I'm a male, I can't help it" excuse is insulting to all genders.

 

[clearacell]

Sad thing is...I agree with the sentiment that these are all public places and people have the right to do this. If you start taking these things away, where do you stop? What if the original picture taker meant no sexualization of a picture but in the background there was a woman in there and some douche on the internet makes it into a sexualized picture...the original picture taker would get all the heat for it?

edit: I don't mean stuff like upskirt and shit, I mean just shots of people on the street.

 

[radios shipping overview]

Wait, isn't there a law for video that you have to get their permission to put it up on the internet afterwards, otherwise you have to blur out their face? Why and how doesn't that apply to pics?

You can't use somebody's likeness for promotional purposes without consent. But professionals taking photos or video will often obtain consent just so that they don't get sued (even if they'd be in the clear using the person's image).

As a photographer who often takes pictures on the street, I am glad that current US law allows me to do so without obtaining consent, but I'm really uncomfortable with the way the same laws are used to give a free pass to dudes like this.

And again, a lot of these creeps (like the guy in the security cam shot) are doing it in places of business. There's no defending that. A place of business is a private establishment and not a public area, so they can and should have their asses summarily kicked out for that.

 

[Takao]

Yeah, when I was a kid I was some special about people who do this, and how some would have cameras embedded in their shoes. Jeeze, lol.

 

[phosphor112]

HOLY SHIT!

REESE'S 4 for 5!?

FFFUUUUUUUUUUUu

 

[noah111]

Sad thing is...I agree with the sentiment that these are all public places and people have the right to do this. If you start taking these things away, where do you stop? What if the original picture taker meant no sexualization of a picture but in the background there was a woman in there and some douche on the internet makes it into a sexualized picture...the original picture taker would get all the heat for it?

edit: I don't mean stuff like upskirt and shit, I mean just shots of people on the street.

That's the thing though, most of these pics are NOT 'public photos' that consist of multiple figures and a variety of backgrounds. It's usually just ASS. In that way, it needs to be treated not as a simple photograph of a public space with people occupying it, but as a person-specific targeted image, akin to stalking.

 

[EVOL 100%]

So I have a question for the women here.

What's worst: A bunch of guys coming over to "talk" to you or creeps snapping photos any chance they get?

I know neither is right but I only ask because there's these two women who work out at the gym I go to and they wear those yoga pants that attract a lot of attention. Most of the guys get distracted by them and go over to harass them trying to get their numbers. The women complain about it, they continue to go just as provocative and do those crazy stretches. You can't expect a straight guy to not feel a certain way when he says beautiful women doing these crazy positions and not react. I'm no perv or anything and I'm married but I can't lie about the distractions those women bring.

To me it seems like they want that attention but get mad when someone provokes them

Edit: btw this happens like every other day at my gym

God forbid a woman that wears clothing that makes her comfortable without being harassed by sleazeballs.

 

[Jake McLargeHuge]

God forbid a woman that wears clothing that makes her comfortable without being harassed by sleazeballs.

Maybe if women were more aggressive about asking out men instead of perpetuating men having to intiate everything, then maybe we wouldn't be in this predicament.

I swear, women...

 

[The Technomancer]

Maybe if women were more aggressive about asking out men instead of perpetuating men having to intiate everything, then maybe we wouldn't be in this predicament.

I swear, women...

I...I can't tell if this is a serious post or not

 

[Jake McLargeHuge]

I...I can't tell if this is a serious post or not

THEN if you have a bunch of dudes ogling your ass all the time, then they would be the undesirables. It's called progress!

Spoiler

just saying stuff

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Spoiler

but seriously, think about it

 

[Kinyou]

I remember this being one of the first images I saw on the Internet that would probably qualify as creepshot.

NSFW

but seriously, when you wear something that lets half of your ass hangout you're going to attract some attention.

 

[Anton Sugar]

Maybe if women were more aggressive about asking out men instead of perpetuating men having to intiate everything, then maybe we wouldn't be in this predicament.

I swear, women...

Ooooooh, so it is womens' fault that they get ogled!

 

[noah111]

Maybe if women were more aggressive about asking out men instead of perpetuating men having to intiate everything, then maybe we wouldn't be in this predicament.

I swear, women...

 

[clearacell]

That's the thing though, most of these pics are NOT 'public photos' that consist of multiple figures and a variety of backgrounds. It's usually just ASS. In that way, it needs to be treated not as a simple photograph of a public space with people occupying it, but as a person-specific targeted image, akin to stalking.

And you don't think this will be the first use of google glasses? I'm pretty sure we all made that observation when we saw the ads for it. With technology we get both sides of the coin, just as with everything we have rights to.

Rights to free speech? You get to have people speak about equality and justice...and you also have to allow for people to talk about their prejudices and racial superiority.

Right to remain silent? Even if you can explain how you shouldn't be arrested, it's really to protect you from torture and forced confessions from police.

We take away peoples ability to take public photos and we lose a huge part of our own culture and art...what, you're going to have to be a licensed photographer to take public shots? Fuck that. Some people are going to be creepy, not all of us are, but the thing is if you take away their ability to do that you would have to take away everyone's ability to take a public shot.

 

[The Anti-Monitor]

Maybe if women were more aggressive about asking out men instead of perpetuating men having to intiate everything, then maybe we wouldn't be in this predicament.

I swear, women...

No, you just get labeled as a slut with no sense of self-respect and deserve shaming.

 

[Sub_Level]

If I want to see a pretty woman I can admire them with my eyes or just go onto the internet. Never felt possessed to take a pic before.

Well there was one time I wanted to take one of this lady had a thong on sticking out at the gym in the treadmill in front of me, but that was more for the novelty. I had never seen that before at the gym, WHY WOULD YOU WEAR A THONG TO THE GYM. I didn't take the pic anyways though, it really is a sleazy thing to do.

 

[phosphor112]

I remember this being one of the first images I saw on the Internet that would probably qualify as creepshot.

NSFW

but seriously, when you wear something that lets half of your ass hangout you're going to attract some attention.

While creeps are creeps, the whole yoga pants thing is kind of stupid and needs to stop. Is it THAT comfy or do you just want to show your ass?

 

[Johnny Cage In The Shower]

No. But now I'm not going to the East Meadow Retro Fitness anymore. I'm scared some creep is going to take a picture of me in the locker room.

True story, I used to work in a building that had a gym and showers in the locker room, I used to work out there and shower regularly. This building was huge, it had all sorts of design and photography based studios/business's in it. They even shot porn in one of the studios. About three months after I left that work, A dude that owned a porn/photo studio in one of the suites in that building was arrested for installing a hidden camera in the locker room showers and filming guys.

Fuuuuuuuuuuu

 

[The Anti-Monitor]

While creeps are creeps, the whole yoga pants thing is kind of stupid and needs to stop. Is it THAT comfy or do you just want to show your ass?

Why do guys believe everything women, particularly hot women, do has your possible reaction in mind?

Yes, they're comfy. Yes, they make you look good. Doesn't mean you wear them because "Man, I hope among the dudes who will stare at it today one of them is rich and hot and has a big dick"

 

[Jake McLargeHuge]

No, you just get labeled as a slut with no sense of self-respect and deserve shaming.

It's about persistence! Social change doesn't happen overnight.

 

[pigeon]

Then let me spell it out for you.

In my experience, women tend to be OK with getting attention for their looks if the man giving the attention is someone they could find attractive.

If on the other hand, the man is unattractive to them they find the attention uncomfortable and inappropriate - also known as "creepy".

And to make clear, I don't think snapping pictures counts as 'attention'. I am sure getting your picture taking without consent would be undesired by most no matter who snaps them.

Have you considered the possibility that these unattractive guys are unattractive because they act like creeps, and the attractive guys are attractive because they express interest in a way that isn't fucking creepy?

If we as a society put a ban on creepshots can we also put a ban on "herp look at the fat person at the store" pictures too? That shit is humiliating and I have no idea why anyone thinks that's okay.

You shouldn't be taking pictures of anyone without their consent. Yes, public place and all that jazz but in most cases it's exploitative, creepy, and just plain wrong.

100% agree.

Stop playing the victim here on GAF. In a forum setting you cannot expect everyone to agree with you.

Man, people really do save up all their misogyny for Devo.

 

[EatinOlives]

Maybe if women were more aggressive about asking out men instead of perpetuating men having to intiate everything, then maybe we wouldn't be in this predicament.

I swear, women...

Trolling?

Trolling.

 

[FStop7]

Garbage like this is why people who are actual candid photographers get hassled so much. Scumabgs.

 

[EVOL 100%]

True story, I used to work in a building that had a gym and showers in the locker room, I used to work out there and shower regularly. This building was huge, it had all sorts of design and photography based studios/business's in it. They even shot porn in one of the studios. About three months after I left that work, A dude that owned a porn/photo studio in one of the suites in that building was arrested for installing a hidden camera in the locker room showers and filming guys.

Fuuuuuuuuuuu

Johnny Cage In The Shower
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(Today, 12:01 AM)

I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself.

Garbage like this is why people who are actual candid photographers get hassled so much. Scumabgs.

Another instance of where 'this is why we can't have nice things' works perfectly.

 

[Dennis]

Man, people really do save up all their misogyny for Devo.

Yes because disagreeing with Devolution can only be misogyny.

It couldn't possibly just be because you disagree with her.

But keep throwing that word around that will surely improve the level of debate on NeoGAF.

 

[shinobi602]

Some good pictures here.

Very gooood.

 

[Jake McLargeHuge]

Trolling?

Trolling.

It's true.

Seriously though, I do find it baffling that yoga pants and tights have even become a thing. Men don't even have to use their imagination anymore.

 

[noah111]

And you don't think this will be the first use of google glasses? I'm pretty sure we all made that observation when we saw the ads for it. With technology we get both sides of the coin, just as with everything we have rights to.

Rights to free speech? You get to have people speak about equality and justice...and you also have to allow for people to talk about their prejudices and racial superiority.

Right to remain silent? Even if you can explain how you shouldn't be arrested, it's really to protect you from torture and forced confessions from police.

We take away peoples ability to take public photos and we lose a huge part of our own culture and art...what, you're going to have to be a licensed photographer to take public shots? Fuck that. Some people are going to be creepy, not all of us are, but the thing is if you take away their ability to do that you would have to take away everyone's ability to take a public shot.

I mentioned google glasses a page back, that's literally what I said. ;p

And I never said take away someones right to take public pictures, just that should be stricter about being allowed to freely post these pictures online that are CLEARLY singling out specific individuals in a stalking manner without the persons consent. That doesn't hinder anyone. Not to mention that a large number of these do end up being pics of minors, and now that's on the internet for all... there's a clear, distinct difference between public photography, and the pictures in the OP. Let's be real.

 

[jasonng]

While creeps are creeps, the whole yoga pants thing is kind of stupid and needs to stop. Is it THAT comfy or do you just want to show your ass?

Right, because it's the women's responsibility for men to have self-control.

Fucking winner winner chicken dinner

If you don't want people staring, ditch the yoga pants/leggings/tight jeans. Women are such hippo crits. They wear very revealing body conforming clothing to attract attention, then complain when they get it. I'm considering turning gay, that's how aggravating they are

I wish orientation was a choice because you'd be better off. Jesus.

 

[IceCold]

Fucking winner winner chicken dinner

If you don't want people staring, ditch the yoga pants/leggings/tight jeans. Women are such hippo crits. They wear very revealing body conforming clothing to attract attention, then complain when they get it. I'm considering turning gay, that's how aggravating they are

http://youtu.be/rPvjmhrfxak

 

[FallingEdge]

Why do guys believe everything women, particularly hot women, do has your possible reaction in mind?

Yes, they're comfy. Yes, they make you look good. Doesn't mean you wear them because "Man, I hope among the dudes who will stare at it today one of them is rich and hot and has a big dick"

I thought size didn't matter?!??! A dick is a dick?!?!

CHARLES NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[EVOL 100%]

I thought size didn't matter?!??! A dick is a dick?!?!

CHARLES NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Small dick GAF is doomed man, we have no chance.

 

[Kinyou]

Why do guys believe everything women, particularly hot women, do has your possible reaction in mind?

Yes, they're comfy. Yes, they make you look good. Doesn't mean you wear them because "Man, I hope among the dudes who will stare at it today one of them is rich and hot and has a big dick"

Can't there be some middle way though? I mean are there no pants that are comfortable without showing your complete ass while still making you look good?

And you don't think this will be the first use of google glasses? I'm pretty sure we all made that observation when we saw the ads for it.

Make it so that they always make an obnoxiously loud "Click" whenever you take a picture. My old LG cellphone did that. Always wondered why I couldn't deactivate that sound but now I realize that it probably was meant to prevent creepshots.

 

[pigeon]

Yes because disagreeing with Devolution can only be misogyny.

It couldn't possibly just be because you disagree with her.

But keep throwing that word around that will surely improve the level of debate on NeoGAF.

It could be. I disagree with Devo on some things*. But there's a difference between reasoned disagreement and having a personal vendetta against someone because they post about feminism on NeoGAF, and it's pretty clear which is the case for you.



* not really

 

[Johnny Cage In The Shower]

Does GAF OT often get this tense between the sexes? Jeez some of you guys .. and gals need to get out more.

 

[Anton Sugar]

While creeps are creeps, the whole yoga pants thing is kind of stupid and needs to stop. Is it THAT comfy or do you just want to show your ass?

My GF wears yoga pants around the house all the time. Much to my surprise, she doesn't always want to have sex!

 

[Johnny Cage In The Shower]

My GF wears yoga pants around the house all the time. Much to my surprise, she doesn't always want to have sex!

With you?

Spoiler

joking

 

[jmdajr]

No one wants to see me wear 'comfortable' clothes in public. I'm doing everyone a service.

 

[Anton Sugar]

With you?

Spoiler

joking

 

[The Anti-Monitor]

Can't there be some middle way though? I mean are there no pants that are comfortable without showing your complete ass while still making you look good?

I don't understand why middle ground has to be reached between a creeper and someone who is just choosing to wear something comfortable.

 

[noah111]

But keep throwing that word around that will surely improve the level of debate on NeoGAF.

To be fair, your initial post sort of reeked of those type of undertones. Also, there is no 'level of debate' being made for your argument of attention seeking; you said something dumb and that was that, basically.

Does GAF OT often get this tense between the sexes? Jeez some of you guys .. and gals need to get out more.

the penises and the vaginas are very sensitive

 

[T.M. MacReady]

And you don't think this will be the first use of google glasses?

 

[FallingEdge]

Small dick GAF is doomed man, we have no chance.

We? Watchu mean "we"?

My GF wears yoga pants around the house all the time. Much to my surprise, she doesn't always want to have sex!

Has to do with your poor lifting numbers more than anything.

 

[Zabka]

Does GAF OT often get this tense between the sexes? Jeez some of you guys .. and gals need to get out more.

I think banning the C word set things off

 

[Jake McLargeHuge]

I don't understand why middle ground has to be reached between a creeper and someone who is just choosing to wear something comfortable.

I can't remember if this girl was either wearing tights or yoga pants, but I was at a yogurt place some months back and a girl was sitting at a stool. Since she was wearing yoga pants(or tights) and the material stretched then, for all intents and purposes, I saw her ass with black thong and all. Then there's the kicker that she had to have been in high school which obviously made me feel awesome and not awkward in the slightest.

At some point decency comes into play and while I don't think yoga pants = whore, it is getting awkward being able to not use my imagination when looking at a girl's lower half.

 

[phosphor112]

Why do guys believe everything women, particularly hot women, do has your possible reaction in mind?

Yes, they're comfy. Yes, they make you look good. Doesn't mean you wear them because "Man, I hope among the dudes who will stare at it today one of them is rich and hot and has a big dick"

Whats wrong with sweat pants? Or other "comfy" clothing? IF they like their yoga pants so much, why is it hard to wear a skirt over it? What happened to those? I don't wear pants showing off the size of my dick because it's comfortable. Whats wrong with maxi dresses? There are alternatives to this whole wave of people wearing yoga pants, and even worse leggings.

Leggings AREN'T pants. It's an undergarment, and it should be worn like one, meaning with other clothing on top of it.

My GF wears yoga pants around the house all the time. Much to my surprise, she doesn't always want to have sex!

Did I say she wants sex? Did I call "yoga pant wearers" whores? No? My wife and I walk around the house half naked half the time when we can, because it's comfy, but you know what? We keep that in the house because it's just decency.

What's the need to show everything you have, whether intentional or not to everyone in the world?

 

[EVOL 100%]

We? Watchu mean "we"?

 

[Kinyou]

I don't understand why middle ground has to be reached between a creeper and someone who is just choosing to wear something comfortable.

Well of course can women wear what they want, but I'd just see a creeper like some force of nature. You can't argue with it, you can't prevent it, it's just gonna happen :/

Only thing you can do is get an umbrella and hope you don't get too wet.