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Halo |OT10| The Calm Before The Storm

Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
I guess I'll do a large write up when I get home.

But basically it's this.

MP: Had fun in every game I played

Obviously only gonna talk about MP. Also, montage coming the minute the embargo lifts.
 

Deadly Cyclone

Pride of Iowa State
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Damn. We are in the future. 8 million people watched on YouTube.
 
We will never ban someone who purchases copies of the game in good faith. However, the retailers who violate their contractual obligations will be dealt with.

HOWEVER, if you start posting videos and such online, that's a different matter. We're doing our best to protect innocent consumers from unwittingly being spoiled and we have no easy way to determine legitimate from illegitimate copies from an online video.

Do you guys have a problem with people streaming multiplayer? I understand Campaign stuff.
 

Project

Member
Does the embargo lifting mean people will be able to stream multiplayer and campaign on Nov. 1? I am curious because I assume stores will likely have the game by then, and franchise owners and managers will probably grab a copy early and play as soon as they get the shipment.
 

orznge

Banned
I appreciate both this and the realities of development in general, but ranking (or the lack thereof) at least appears to be "in flux and in dev" a hell of a lot later than literally any other feature. Meanwhile, other features, some of which were at least initially unpalatable to the "1%" were revealed far earlier, with far more confidence, and far less concern about "flux". In that context, it's hard not to feel -- if you are a member of that diehard constituency who play Halo games come rain or shine for year upon year until the next one is released -- that your fanboy purchase is being taken for granted, and other constituents actively courted ahead of you.

Also, while I will not dispute that it is a small minority of players who are vociferous about having visible ranks, I think the people who you say don't care may not consciously care, may not report caring, but still actually do benefit from ranking, and are moved by ranking, in ways they don't really consider.

Also, the Pareto principle is at work here. The sizeable majority may not "care" about ranks, but the minority that does -- and cares about 'competitiveness' in general -- also tend to be some of your most devoted customers, the kinds who go and make threads on other forums, drive conversations and communities, buy map packs, hype your games, and play them day after day after day, long after the majority has got distracted by newer, shinier things. Attending to that minority -- or at least being more obvious in respecting what they cherish -- has implied value for the franchise far down the line.

The problem isn't that they get to see the sausage being made; it's that the butcher is serving them last, if at all.

Edit: I also appreciate that they are the hardest audience to please, and will happily call you 'cunts' when you fail to, so I can understand why you might throw your hands up and dismiss them. But to do so is probably bad for Halo in the long-term.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=43169838&postcount=9238
 

feel

Member
Wow I don't remember youtube ever being down. Frankie went overboard trying to shield people from pirate videos.

Forge, Weapon and armor abilities Video.

Halo 4 Forge Stuff
Nice to have a video like this. (saw it earlier)

So you were angry at the panel while reading GAF, we are angry at GAF while watching the cut panel.


Seems fair.
niiice

NYCC writeup
Thanks, nice read.

I don't see how anyone can have hope or faith in an upcoming Bungie game. Reach was what they wanted Halo to be. They released less information than 343 does. They grew increasingly arrogant and condescending with their fanbase. They took the best console FPS of all time and made it increasingly worse. So yeah, I'm not holding out much hope for Bungie's next game. In fact, one of the things that made me most excited about Halo 4 was that it wasn't Bungie at the helm.
It's Bungie being passionate about a new project with their A team, things were very far from that for Reach.

Also, montage coming the minute the embargo lifts.
Embargo? People have been posting their NYCC multiplayer videos all over the place with no problem.
 

DopeyFish

Not bitter, just unsweetened
Does the embargo lifting mean people will be able to stream multiplayer and campaign on Nov. 1? I am curious because I assume stores will likely have the game by then, and franchise owners and managers will probably grab a copy early and play as soon as they get the shipment.

It's for reviews, not for everybody to go all willy nilly

Our date is November 6th. Until then, the game hasn't released. (Technically 9 am EST November 5th)
 

Oozer3993

Member
The fuck? God no.

That's the review embargo. It's the earliest any Halo review embargo has ever been (Reach and 3 were both Noon PST the Sunday before release and Halo 2 was something like the day before). I imagine it's also the embargo for any other entities that may want to show off gameplay.
 

Noricart

Member
The fact that Spartans aren't casting shadows in forge(?) is freaking me out.
Like noticing the shoes squeaking in a basketball game.
 

TheOddOne

Member
That's the review embargo. It's the earliest any Halo review embargo has ever been (Reach and 3 were both Noon PST the Sunday before release and Halo 2 was something like the day before). I imagine it's also the embargo for any other entities that may want to show off gameplay.
Phew, I though the rest was embargoed.
 
So now we can't even put "better shadows" under the list of Forge improvements.

Forge could look cartoony and like Minecraft for all I care as long as it had a wide variety of visual pallets and played good. If making Forge's art stylistic was what it would take to make it varied I would take it. Still, I don't think things need to be that dramatic.
 

orznge

Banned
Forge could look cartoony and like Minecraft for all I care as long as it had a wide variety of visual pallets and played good. If making Forge's art stylistic was what it would take to make it varied I would take it. Still, I don't think things need to be that dramatic.

Do you really think that would ever happen?
 
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