As a separate article? Sure, why not. When trying to directly compare all three versions, however, it has no place.
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Doom 3 BFG edition. Anyone excited for this?
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As a separate article? Sure, why not. When trying to directly compare all three versions, however, it has no place.
highrider
Banned
Yep. Personally I found that helpful.
Yeah, that one was a mess. Only reason it was a better choice than PC at all was because at the time it probably WOULD cost a decent bit to get a PC that ran it as well as the 360... then again you'd probably easily get a PC that ran it at a more stable FPS even if it wasn't as high or with as many features. Now, it's hard to imagine all but the cheapest of laptops or oldest of computers NOT being able to handle that game.
papersleeves
Member
Amusing how bad Quake 4 ran in comparison:
Raven developped and ported the game, but yeah, even Carmack talked about their learning of the consoles over the years which drastically helped them. Prey, which is a Id Tech 4 game, runs much better by comparison.
abracadaver
Member
So not even the imp fireballs cast light anymore ?
Do you think going for 60fps was the right decision ?
Do you think going for 60fps was the right decision ?
papersleeves
Member
It definitely was. 60fps is a huge appeal, at least on console. I instantly missed it when I switched to 3D mode (30 fps per eye)
You know, one nice thing about this version is the ability to easily use surround sound. I haven't been able to get OG Doom 3 running in surround on any recent sound hardware. I've tried all of the different methods but it sticks to 2.0 stereo. While the gun sounds are crap everything else is pretty good and really shines in surround. Fantastic use of low frequency noise as well.
The imp fireballs definitely have dynamic lighting.
Henry Jones Jr
Member
Has anyone had problems with the controller support on the PC version? I load up the game and the controller works fine in the game select menu (where you pick Doom, Doom2, or Doom3) but then when a choose a game, the controller no longer works.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
Check the control options in the game you are trying to use it in to see if there is a pad toggle?
Henry Jones Jr
Member
There's not, as far as I can tell. Just options to turn vibration on/off and invert controls.
cyberheater
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Amusing how bad Quake 4 ran in comparison:
I wonder if it's possible to use the same control scheme/config files used to allow gamepad support on the PC version of Doom3 on Quake 4. It would be great to be able to play the PC version without having to use Xpadder etc...
Got sikkmod + wulfen texture pack working, oh man. Looks excellent. It's mostly 60fps and playable at all times (30+) which is awesome, but performance wise I prefer BFG Edition's locked 60 with updated HUD.
This is the pack that worked for me after trying a few different ones (i'm on an AMD card):
http://minus.com/mGe9f9cMA
You have to go to settings -> Controller and enable controller input. Only that first menu screen works on the controller until you do that, not sure why it would be disabled by default
This is the pack that worked for me after trying a few different ones (i'm on an AMD card):
http://minus.com/mGe9f9cMA
You have to go to settings -> Controller and enable controller input. Only that first menu screen works on the controller until you do that, not sure why it would be disabled by default
Been there, done that. I did NOT work for Doom 3.
It did work for other older games, however.
angular graphics
Banned
Audizy 2 ZS here, 5.1 works great, but the sound side of the game was kinda (forced to be) sponsored by Creative (EAX etc) so it's no wonder it works out of the box.
angular graphics
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Fair enough, perhaps the new position of the light makes them look weird.
Fair enough, perhaps the new position of the light makes them look weird.
That's really bizarre. It simply did not work for me. I've tried those same commands. I spent the better part of an afternoon trying to get it working.
I am using a Xonar as well. Doom 3 claimed to be using surround but it did not actually make use of my rear channels.
Audizy 2 ZS here, 5.1 works great, but the sound side of the game was kinda (forced to be) sponsored by Creative (EAX etc) so it's no wonder it works out of the box.
EAX would be so awesome if it didn't muffle the guns and voices. The reverb is incredible but in most places way too overdone. For example if I grab a PDA in a cavernous area I can't make out the audio logs, and same with when Kelly talks to you. In smaller rooms voices are fine. I wish there was a way to tone it down, I love the effect.
plagiarize
Banned
I'm up to Alpha Labs 3 and loving playing this on my HMZs. i just slipped them off to be surprised by the bright sunshine i was apparently sat in for the last few hours. it's so nice to be able to lose myself in the world like never before. i've never been the biggest Doom 3 fan, but i always believed that 3D would really make it shine, and it really does.
all the debates about mods, and versions, and all that aside, i'm really happy with my purchase, and more eager than ever to get my Oculus. it's going to be an amazing ride with a motion tracking headset.
all the debates about mods, and versions, and all that aside, i'm really happy with my purchase, and more eager than ever to get my Oculus. it's going to be an amazing ride with a motion tracking headset.
cyberheater
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This is a great package. Got the PS3 version and Doom 3 looks great and runs superbly. Really hard on Veteran, though!
I played the first few levels of the first Doom and it still holds up really well. Will probably play the whole thing through
I've only played the game on the default hardness setting. I'll play on the tougher settings once I've completed a play though.
I take it there are a lot more demons etc... on veteran.
cyberheater
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I'm really looking forward to Oculus for the same reason. I'd love to be able to play this in deep 3D without having to black out my living room because of the 3D projector.
Hell. I could even play it in bed.
Xander51
Member
The rebalancing in this is pretty interesting and more aggressive than I thought it was. I just got to a section in ROE where I was supposed to "Put on an environment suit" and go through some waste tunnels. I was looking around for the suit, but it wasn't there, and then it turned out that touching the waste didn't hurt me.
A quick google search later, and apparently in the original game you put on a helmet at this part and the whole waste tunnel used the oxygen loss mechanic. It was definitely easier without this. I'm not sure if it was better/less frustrating since I never finished original ROE, but at the very least it's interesting that the tweaking went beyond ammo and health pack counts.
A quick google search later, and apparently in the original game you put on a helmet at this part and the whole waste tunnel used the oxygen loss mechanic. It was definitely easier without this. I'm not sure if it was better/less frustrating since I never finished original ROE, but at the very least it's interesting that the tweaking went beyond ammo and health pack counts.
Xander51
Member
Carmack has been surprisingly committed to that even post Bethesda buy-out.
The perfect Dark
Banned
This.Game.is.so.much.fun.
Everything is godlike
The multiplayer is sooooooo god. Oldschool action a it's best. Corridor + 4 players + weapon spawns = fun fun fun
I also like that the stats screen only shows your kill score and not the number of deaths. I hate this K/D crap.
Please bring those oldschool shooters back
Everything is godlike
The multiplayer is sooooooo god. Oldschool action a it's best. Corridor + 4 players + weapon spawns = fun fun fun
I also like that the stats screen only shows your kill score and not the number of deaths. I hate this K/D crap.
Please bring those oldschool shooters back
No, the Xbox version cut a ton of rooms and areas. This is the pc version modified.
Loving Doom 3. Such a pure shooter and the UI has never been bettered.
Plus, the atmosphere is so, so good. The enemies are pretty relentless (on Veteran anyway) and there is barely a single room where you're sure one won't appear at any moment. Feels really isolated, claustrophobic and tense.
I played the Xbox version way back in the day and there's definitely one area that stuck out, when you go outside briefly at the start, that wasn't there then. Is there a list of areas that were cut out of that version?
Plus, the atmosphere is so, so good. The enemies are pretty relentless (on Veteran anyway) and there is barely a single room where you're sure one won't appear at any moment. Feels really isolated, claustrophobic and tense.
I played the Xbox version way back in the day and there's definitely one area that stuck out, when you go outside briefly at the start, that wasn't there then. Is there a list of areas that were cut out of that version?
Too much to mention. They basically cut out all the optional areas of the game and rebalanced the enemies to fit within the more linear design.
It kinda sucks because the game teaches you that the optional areas are ripe with extra loot, but also feature some of the most challenging encounters, and these areas are also the most classic "Doom" in the entire game.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yeah I have to say I'm not sure why people are hating it, I've had ver little experience with vanilla D3, but that shit just looks DARK, not atmospheric in the least. I would much appreciate a visible game.
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
Just played to and finished
yesterday and I'm still digging it. I don't know what everyone is complaining about. At least the 360 version is rock solid.
hell
Windom Earle
Member
I agree about the mp, it's pretty awesome. Never finished vanilla D3 in the past (only played it at friends) so I am excited to do it now. Overall a good package.
I think they both look good, actually.
To be honest, the fact that this version looks a bit different actually adds to the value. I've played the shit out of Doom 3 and seeing it in a slightly different way has been enjoyable. It's not as if my original copy stopped working upon release of the BFG edition.
WTF is this shit. I'm paying on 360 everything is fine until I get to the communications maintenance area, then I start getting slowdown, I go up the lift a door opens and now I'm getting 2fps until the console freezes. I can reload earlier saves and the same thing happens over and over again. Has this occurred for anyone else? The game is literally unplayable at this point, I've never seen anything like this before.
angular graphics
Banned
^ about the flashlight shadows
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
Playing the 360 version as well and didn't have this problem.
plagiarize
Banned
personally, i agree.