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[Loginius]

Reading this thread has become quite painful.

Lets see what the biggest complaints are (not a list of all of them but a list of what comes up the most in order of how "bad" those changes are from top to bottom with the worst on top):

-no campaign theater (by far the biggest flaw in the game if you read the last 20 pages will cost the halo population (and your enjoyment of the game) dearly)
-no campaign scoring (almost as bad as theater missing, apparently)

-no "visible" skill-ranking system
-white text (thought it has been confirmed a thousand times to not distract gameplay by members of halo-gaf that have played the game)
-no option for classic ctf in customs
-other classic gametypes missing


Yeah, I think this is going to be the worst Halo yet.

 

[Korosenai]

At this point, i just need a direct injection of Halo 4 into my veins.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

At least they brought the hitscan BR back. I will continue to hold on that as the best positive.

@Trey I meant vertical sensitivity settings, lol. Or just mapping buttons would be nice

 

[Tha Robbertster]

You could just stop playing the game. Halo is dead, as you said, then stop playing a dead body!

That sounds really dirty.

 

[squidhands]

This sounds like a horrible idea. Having multiple hoppers with various different player traits is confusing and annoying. I admittedly hate the idea of Friendly Fire being turned off in any playlist. That being said I can't understand the reason to have different player/team rules in different hoppers.

If there are some pretty apparent playlist/gametype descriptions like there were in Halo 2, it could go a long way in letting people know what to expect.

That's just because War Games is housed under Infinity. Spartan Ops are small campaign missions, using the same tech/engine. If it's cut from one, I'm sure it's gone from both.

I dunno, I hope that's not the case. I can see the campaign getting different treatment, since it's a Chief-centric story. I want to believe that Spartan Ops is special and getting specialized attention. Hopefully we can get some clarification soon.

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To everyone: lets all make a concerted effort to be nicer to one another and especially the people who have busted their ass to bring us a game that we all want to play. It was too fucking easy for everyone to fly off the handle yesterday (yay, mob mentality), no reason that we can't make the opposite happen today.

Smiles, everone! Smiles!

 

[Skilotonn]

I feel that there is some very valid criticisms given in this thread, however those often just get lost in the mountain of shitty posts. People take it too such an extreme that it often becomes parody and counterproductive.

The whole mentality of being in a one group, such as Slurp and Salt, has also made this thread much worse. It was meant to be a joke at first, some slight jab here and there, but now it just means you either love or hate 343 or the game too much. The whole middle ground feels lost.

To take a page out of 343 lingo, it doesn't feel like HaloGAF anymore.

It is really annoying, and it makes me think sometimes that I'm on a forum with a bunch of kids instead of some grown-ass people.

Put your points across properly and maybe, just maybe the 343 guys and gals will tell us whether it's true or not, if so, why something was cut and whether they'll add it in later or not. Get an adult conversation going and we might get some answers.

I don't know what some people expect to accomplish with the way they put their posts together.

 

[TheOddOne]

That sounds really dirty.

That fact that you went there... tell us a lot of about you. You perv.

 

[Korosenai]

Lets just all find our happy place

 

[Tha Robbertster]

That fact that you went there... tell us a lot of about you. You perv.

I have to do that for my study! It's not like I want to touch dead bodies, it just that I HAVE to. For science.

 

[neoism]

I believe we're ahead of schedule. It's looking like people are starting to see that 343's vision of Halo isn't the same as theirs and are starting the cycle early. I can't say I didn't see all of this coming though. As I said long ago though I'm giving 343 a chance. This game makes or breaks them in my mind. So far it's not looking good for them at all. Campaign is looking like it's going to be good but that's it. That won't be enough to keep me coming back either.

we feels the same then.... I'm mad they just left Reach, one more update before 4 is all I wanted.....I will definitely give MP a chance 1000+games I hope I love it but you never know. Reach just completely connected with me... the first 3 months with that game was some of the funniest times I've had with video games.... I had like a month and a half before the new COD... so not sure releasing one week from the monster was a good idea...Frankie release 5 in September next time.

 

[TheOddOne]

I have to do that for my study! It's not like I want to touch dead bodies, it just that I HAVE to. For science.

Yes, for... science *wink wink*. I catch your drift.

 

[Ramirez]

Good point but for me, stuff like perks, AAs, random weapon spawns etc are "core" gameplay elements now. That for me is a large problem.

I know I'm going to enjoy campaign, I'm sure I will enjoy MLG but when I go into normal matchmaking I also know I will be fighting game mechanics more than fighting players. That will never sit right with me.

I've watched a ton of videos, read a ton of impressions from people I trust, and I simply don't think the AA's are going to be the nuisance they were in Reach.

I could be completely wrong, but I have yet to see any AA video where I thought "Christ, that's gonna be miserable to play against." The guns just look too strong for this to happen again.

 

[Tha Robbertster]

Yes, for... science *wink wink*. I catch your drift.

You wanna do some ''science'' tonight? The wife will never find out. I promise.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Already repeating gifs?

These kids lurked and watched some gifs get posted and "inside jokes" being used so when they get here they run them into the ground.

It's pretty telling that Plywood pretty much STOPPED posting Gifs for a while now.

It is really annoying, and it makes me think sometimes that I'm on a forum with a bunch of kids instead of some grown-ass people.

Put your points across properly and maybe, just maybe the 343 guys and gals will tell us whether it's true or not, if so, why something was cut and whether they'll add it in later or not. Get an adult conversation going and we might get some answers.

I don't know what some people expect to accomplish with the way they put their posts together.

That's because you are. I'd be willing to bet a huge chunk of people posting in this community thread are young (under 20). Especially a bunch of these newer posters.

 

[Fuchsdh]

If there are some pretty apparent playlist/gametype descriptions like there were in Halo 2, it could go a long way in letting people know what to expect.

To everyone: lets all make a concerted effort to be nicer to one another and especially
Smiles, everone! Smiles!

When Halo 4 arrives at my house I'm going to run out at the UPS guy shouting "De plane!" and he's going to be confused as hell.

 

[Trey]

It's permanently set to 11.

At least they brought the hitscan BR back. I will continue to hold on that as the best positive.

@Trey I meant vertical sensitivity settings, lol. Or just mapping buttons would be nice

Minor crisis averted.

 

[MaDGaMEZ]

I've watched a ton of videos, read a ton of impressions from people I trust, and I simply don't think the AA's are going to be the nuisance they were in Reach.

I could be completely wrong, but I have yet to see any AA video where I thought "Christ, that's gonna be miserable to play against." The guns just look too strong for this to happen again.

Unlimited sprint might be, I would have had it run out ala other FPSs where it runs out and then if you use it too soon the sprinting burst is alot smaller.

 

[ElzarTheBam]

You wanna do some ''science'' tonight? The wife will never find out. I promise.

Fak u.

Also Squid, I am almost always smiling.

People get too worked up over a videogame sometimes.

 

[TheOddOne]

You wanna do some ''science'' tonight? The wife will never find out. I promise.

 

[neoism]

Anyone up for gaf customs the 3rd in REACH..?

 

[Raide]

Unlimited sprint might be, I would have had it run out ala other FPSs where it runs out and then if you use it too soon the sprinting burst is alot smaller.

Tweaking of the time to get your weapon ready will be the major factor. I love it so I can get from A to B quickly but I always end up using it at stupid moments and find myself sprinting into the pointy end of a gun.

 

[Amazing Mic]

Especially a bunch of these newer posters.

Ugh. I was called out as a junior earlier today then rebutted by more or less "just ask any of the MLG pros" about ranks. It's hardly exclusive to us new guys.

 

[H3xum]

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To everyone: lets all make a concerted effort to be nicer to one another and especially the people who have busted their ass to bring us a game that we all want to play. It was too fucking easy for everyone to fly off the handle yesterday (yay, mob mentality), no reason that we can't make the opposite happen today.

Smiles, everone! Smiles!

You, I like you.

I don't think 99% of the people going bonkers on here could enjoy the game even if it were flawless. Have fun with the game, that's why it's being made

 

[Tawpgun]

So, I finally got around to packaging all of that giveaway stuff, it will be in the mail tomorrow or Friday, believe.

Which reminds me,

I'll give Tunavi his shirt.


Eventually.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Ugh. I was called out as a junior earlier today then rebutted by more or less "just ask any of the MLG pros" about ranks. It's hardly exclusive to us new guys.

I didn't say it's JUST new posters, now did I? Plus "new" is dependent on the person.

All I know is there's been a steady decline on these boards since the waypoint/bungie.net exodus.

 

[TheOddOne]

Ugh. I was called out as a junior earlier today then rebutted by more or less "just ask any of the MLG pros" about ranks. It's hardly exclusive to us new guys.

Are we going to have the junior debate, again? Please no HaloGAF.

 

[MrDaravon]

I think Frankie and David are smart enough to realize that the vast, vast majority of bitching is not directed at them personally, and both of those guys have been around the block and back enough times not to take any of it that personally if it is.

That said, downgraded my LE preorder this morning. I know most of the people at that store (which is the only reason I continue to go there), guy said that I was the fourth downgrade he had personally done since last week, and all four of us cited the Season Pass helmets and the Specializations exclusivity window issues as why. Good job 343 marketing! They did list the Halo 4 Season Pass for pre-order at $30 though, which someone else mentioned before but that's definitely off. I will miss the sexy steelcase for the game, but that's it.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Reading this thread has become quite painful.

Lets see what the biggest complaints are (not a list of all of them but a list of what comes up the most in order of how "bad" those changes are from top to bottom with the worst on top):

-no campaign theater (by far the biggest flaw in the game if you read the last 20 pages will cost the halo population (and your enjoyment of the game) dearly)
-no campaign scoring (almost as bad as theater missing, apparently)

-no "visible" skill-ranking system
-white text (thought it has been confirmed a thousand times to not distract gameplay by members of halo-gaf that have played the game)
-no option for classic ctf in customs
-other classic gametypes missing


Yeah, I think this is going to be the worst Halo yet.

You may be shocked to learn that different things carry different weights to different people. And I didn't see anyone saying the game was going to be bad because of those things. Just that we're disappointed they are not included. Enough with the hyperbole.

 

[Blue Ninja]

So, apparently I shouldn't check the Halo 4 trailer if I want to remain unspoiled? Great marketing there, 343.

 

[Tunavi]

Which reminds me,

I'll give Tunavi his shirt.

Eventually.

hurry up, the shirt will be incredibly irrelevant after november 6th

At least they brought the hitscan BR back. I will continue to hold on that as the best positive.

Yup.

 

[Fotos]

Also how are speed runners going to record their runs without theatre mode in Campaign? And no fails can now be recorded in Campaign for Roosterteeth. It just doesn't make sense to me to take that out. I am still doubting that they actually did though because it was never actually confirmed.

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

Reading this thread has become quite painful.

Lets see what the biggest complaints are (not a list of all of them but a list of what comes up the most in order of how "bad" those changes are from top to bottom with the worst on top):

-no campaign theater (by far the biggest flaw in the game if you read the last 20 pages will cost the halo population (and your enjoyment of the game) dearly)
-no campaign scoring (almost as bad as theater missing, apparently)

-no "visible" skill-ranking system
-white text (thought it has been confirmed a thousand times to not distract gameplay by members of halo-gaf that have played the game)
-no option for classic ctf in customs
-other classic gametypes missing


Yeah, I think this is going to be the worst Halo yet.

lol.

You may be shocked to learn that different things carry different weights to different people. And I didn't see anyone saying the game was going to be bad because of those things. Just that we're disappointed they are not included. Enough with the hyperbole.

This. The weight of campaign theater and scoring is not as heavy as most people think. People like those features, but use them a lot less than they want you to think.

So, apparently I shouldn't check the Halo 4 trailer if I want to remain unspoiled? Great marketing there, 343.

It's not any more of a spoiler than any other Halo trailer has been. Never clearly shows you know who either.

 

[Skilotonn]

That's because you are. I'd be willing to bet a huge chunk of people posting in this community thread are young (under 20). Especially a bunch of these newer posters.

Guess so, at least for the names I don't know - it's gotta stop though because it's not helping this community at all.

I think Frankie and David are smart enough to realize that the vast, vast majority of bitching is not directed at them personally, and both of those guys have been around the block and back enough times not to take any of it that personally if it is.

That said, downgraded my LE preorder this morning. I know most of the people at that store (which is the only reason I continue to go there), guy said that I was the fourth downgrade he had personally done since last week, and all four of us cited the Season Pass helmets and the Specializations exclusivity window issues as why. Good job 343 marketing! They did list the Halo 4 Season Pass for pre-order at $30 though, which someone else mentioned before but that's definitely off. I will miss the sexy steelcase for the game, but that's it.

I hope they don't, but I wouldn't be surprised if they just get fed up with reading this forum sometimes, especially since they can't just spill everything or don't have the answers that others would understand to cause another bitch-fest.

 

[Slightly Live]

because it was never actually confirmed.

A few days from launch now (relatively) and that alone should give you an answer.

 

[TheOddOne]

So, apparently I shouldn't check the Halo 4 trailer if I want to remain unspoiled? Great marketing there, 343.

There is just one shot in the trailer that as a diehard fan might want to find out yourself.

 

[Tawpgun]

So, apparently I shouldn't check the Halo 4 trailer if I want to remain unspoiled? Great marketing there, 343.

Have you seen the main menu of the game of older builds?

Then you saw the "big" spoiler.

 

[Amazing Mic]

You may be shocked to learn that different things carry different weights to different people. And I didn't see anyone saying the game was going to be bad because of those things. Just that we're disappointed they are not included. Enough with the hyperbole.

I think you missed about 30 pages. Had no problem w/ his post because that's pretty much what a lot of people here are saying.

Shit, at this point, I'd say Ramirez's posts account for 90% of the ones worth reading from the morning.

 

[Blue Ninja]

There is just one shot in the trailer that as a diehard fan might want to find out yourself.

Eh, find out now or find out later, doesn't really matter, does it. Link me.

Have you seen the main menu of the game of older builds?

Then you saw the "big" spoiler.

Oh.

As I said, great marketing, 343.

 

[Ramirez]

So, apparently I shouldn't check the Halo 4 trailer if I want to remain unspoiled? Great marketing there, 343.

It's so obvious anyways, just watch it, it's nothing, really.

Mic, that's not exclusive to this morning. /humble

 

[squidhands]

So, apparently I shouldn't check the Halo 4 trailer if I want to remain unspoiled? Great marketing there, 343.

I skipped it once I found out it was for campaign. I don't want to see any more than I already have in a setting that's not me, several adult drinks, and my darkened gameroom. Not that it's a spoiler, just would rather stay as fresh as possible.

I don't think it's a question of poor marketing, just different people want to see different things. Personally, I want to see tons of in-game footage of actual matches between competent teams.

 

[ElzarTheBam]

Lovely avatar, Blue.

 

[Gui_PT]

lol - I did this, once! (Probably for the same (stupid) reason.) We were visiting some huge sand dunes on the Oregon coast, and my cousin said "did you know you can sand-surf, it's just like body-surfing?" And without waiting for instructions, or caveats, or anything, I threw myself straight out and up, trusting that I'd smoothly connect with the sand and surf down to the bottom of the dune.

Instead, I fell from 5 or 6 feet up smack down onto the sand. Drove all the air out of my lungs. I couldn't breathe for almost a minute.

Neither could any of the people at the top of the hill (but for a totally different reason).

Sounds like a good time. Not for you though.


Any more bad news since I left?

 

[Tawpgun]

Eh, find out now or find out later, doesn't really matter, does it. Link me.



Oh.

As I said, great marketing, 343.

It's probably not even the biggest reveal. All we know is (video spoiler)

Spoiler

There is a Halo, we don't know why its there and what purpose it will be for.

Also, when is MLG Dallas. I want to see high level Halo 4 play. I think once everyone sees that, its full on SLRP SLRP right before Launch.

 

[Blue Ninja]

It's probably not even the biggest reveal. All we know is (video spoiler)

Spoiler

There is a Halo, we don't know why its there and what purpose it will be for.

Yeah, I just saw the trailer.

Who the fuck would get hyped from that? Wasn't all that good, imo.

 

[Korosenai]

I just got my Halo 4 ost from amazon. The package they sent it in had call of duty advertising on it. Ive never seen amazon advertise a video game on a package.

It also came with the 6 "exclusive" tracks.

 

[dragonelite]

Halo gaf.

I have a plan to bring back theater for single player.
The 360 has a browser now.
All we need to do is go to this site on the 360 and download more ram.
You to select the 4gb or else the quick time events dont fit.

/http://www.downloadmoreram.com/

what can go wrong?

Spoiler

/Sarcasm

 

[Blue Ninja]

So, has the no campaign theater thing been confirmed?

 

[TheOddOne]

Eh, find out now or find out later, doesn't really matter, does it. Link me.

I can never stay mad at you, monkey.

 

[MrDaravon]

I hope they don't, but I wouldn't be surprised if they just get fed up with reading this forum sometimes, especially since they can't just spill everything or don't have the answers that others would understand to cause another bitch-fest.

I'm sure that happens, hopefully they can take it in stride or at least step away from it a bit.

 

[Hypertrooper]

Yeah, I just saw the trailer.

Who the fuck would get hyped from that? Wasn't all that good, imo.

Different opinions, views? Awesome voice over, even contains the best line since Halo 2.