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Ken

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Broke a second controller.

Maybe you should stop playing.

I'm pretty sure my internet is worse than yours so I know what you mean by not being able to kill people even if you land 5+ shots on an unshielded opponent but I haven't broken anything yet. I'm sitting at 1.2 KDR at 600+ assists but it doesn't really bother me that much.
 
This, I cant believe this wasn't just the original line of thought from the beginning of Halo.

The only thing better would be a scaled assist system. Which I also don't understand isn't the de facto system of any FPS in 2008+.

Good Enough™ I guess!

k so I pooped on kids today, had no idea what I was doing but I think I did ok for now.

To ignore the framerate issue is crazy talk, go watch my rebroadcast and to ignore it would be complete and utter denial in the wrong, this game is not "smooth" Whenever there was a vehichle and a weapon effect and more than one player shit started warping around, to the point precision aiming became near impossible and I just started shooting and prayin.

I was also noticing lag during battles unless thats just how unsmooth the animations are... I can't honestly tell yet.

There are also way too many one shot weapons and one shot weapons on the map at the same time.

Its fun but I really don't think I could ever take this serious.
I haven't played Dominion yet or BTS, but there is a lot less of that in Slayer and Pro Slayer. Didn't notice that issue too much. I still see a bunch of people trying to sprint around with the sword, which is annoying. My shots didn't seem to slow them down much like people have mentioned. Could just be me though.
 

Pop

Member
Broke a second controller.

I'm going to get good at this game if it kills me, but this red reticule != hit bullshit, where I pour shot after shot into a guy with no shields is making me want to kill something real.

It's obviously just you, idk why you keep complaining on here.
 

Karl2177

Member
I haven't played Dominion yet or BTS, but there is a lot less of that in Slayer and Pro Slayer. Didn't notice that issue too much. I still see a bunch of people trying to sprint around with the sword, which is annoying. My shots didn't seem to slow them down much like people have mentioned. Could just be me though.

Sword doesn't get slowed like other weapons do.
 

zap

Member
Some thoughts:

- I hate how there is only one or two 'small' maps in this game. I spend way too long looking for enemies on a map like Complex.

- Big Team is TERRIBLE. I can hardly stand it - it's pretty much BTB Heavies from Halo 3 and Reach, with no normal gametypes. So many power weapons

- Tank is overpowered, as it is in all halo games. Take it out of MM please.

- Get rid of Camo. Worst AA ever - now it's harder to see and less easy to spot on your radar? WTF.

- The UI is a massive step back from Reach. It is unintuitive and gives less information than the previous game.

- Accidental flag pick up is not fun.

- JIP now means we get matched 3v5, 4v5, or 7v8 frequently. We MIGHT get another player to even it out - you never know. It makes the game very frustrating.

- Not getting knocked out of scope is really frustrating - flinch is much worse than that.

- What are symmetrical gametypes like CTF doing on one sided maps like Abandon? So unbalanced.

- Team Slayer Pro is very fun - could do with a second grenade and more consistent ordnance drops.

- Why did you remove the red 'X' upon death?!?
 
Maybe you should stop playing.

I'm pretty sure my internet is worse than yours so I know what you mean by not being able to kill people even if you land 5+ shots on an unshielded opponent but I haven't broken anything yet. I'm sitting at 1.2 KDR at 600+ assists but it doesn't really bother me that much.

That's nice. I'm sitting at sub-1.0, which is fucking unacceptable.

It's obviously just you, idk why you keep complaining on here.


Yep, that's it. Must be one of them special Halo brain tumors that only affects Halo skills, and makes people who have had the exact same K/D and success with every Halo since CE lose all knowledge of how to play the game. It's science!
 

Sai-kun

Banned
That's nice. I'm sitting at sub-1.0, which is fucking unacceptable.




Yep, that's it. Must be one of them special Halo brain tumors that only affects Halo skills, and makes people who have had the exact same K/D and success with every Halo since CE lose all knowledge of how to play the game. It's science!

Well, nobody else is breaking controllers so

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Karl2177

Member
That's nice. I'm sitting at sub-1.0, which is fucking unacceptable.




Yep, that's it. Must be one of them special Halo brain tumors that only affects Halo skills, and makes people who have had the exact same K/D and success with every Halo since CE lose all knowledge of how to play the game. It's science!

Or maybe you just suck? I'm sitting pretty at a 2.2 K/D with none of those issues.
 

Redford

aka Cabbie
Yep, that's it. Must be one of them special Halo brain tumors that only affects Halo skills, and makes people who have had the exact same K/D and success with every Halo since CE lose all knowledge of how to play the game. It's science!

I think it has more to do with anger, as evidenced by two controllers in one night. Holy hell.

Props for being honest I guess though?
 

PNut

Banned
That's nice. I'm sitting at sub-1.0, which is fucking unacceptable.




Yep, that's it. Must be one of them special Halo brain tumors that only affects Halo skills, and makes people who have had the exact same K/D and success with every Halo since CE lose all knowledge of how to play the game. It's science!

Stop posting no one gives a shit. What's wrong with you?
 

CliQ

Member
Some thoughts:

- I hate how there is only one or two 'small' maps in this game. I spend way too long looking for enemies on a map like Complex.

- Big Team is TERRIBLE. I can hardly stand it - it's pretty much BTB Heavies from Halo 3 and Reach, with no normal gametypes. So many power weapons

- Tank is overpowered, as it is in all halo games. Take it out of MM please.

- Get rid of Camo. Worst AA ever - now it's harder to see and less easy to spot on your radar? WTF.

- The UI is a massive step back from Reach. It is unintuitive and gives less information than the previous game.

- Accidental flag pick up is not fun.

- JIP now means we get matched 3v5, 4v5, or 7v8 frequently. We MIGHT get another player to even it out - you never know. It makes the game very frustrating.

- Not getting knocked out of scope is really frustrating - flinch is much worse than that.

- What are symmetrical gametypes like CTF doing on one sided maps like Abandon? So unbalanced.

- Team Slayer Pro is very fun - could do with a second grenade and more consistent ordnance drops.

- Why did you remove the red 'X' upon death?!?


All I see is cry cry cry cry cry cry make everything like slayer pro and every map should be small.
 
One of my friends is returning the game because he thinks the hitboxes are huge, because the kill cams inaccurate and misleading.
Sucks because I'm sure he isn't alone in thinking that.
 

zap

Member
One of my friends is returning the game because he thinks the hitboxes are huge, because the kill cams inaccurate and misleading.
Sucks because I'm sure he isn't alone in thinking that.

They shouldn't have added kill cams if they can't have them display properly. What's the point if it looks like they are aiming 5 metres to the left or right?
 
*shrugs* Just venting. Funnily enough, I don't give a shit that they don't give a shit. It's a magical cycle of apathy.
lol I don't see anything wrong with your complaining. Halo should be fun and something is amiss with your internet connection from the sounds of it. People like to act like they're all special and have a reason to tell others to stop posting. Always humors me.
 

Redford

aka Cabbie
They shouldn't have added kill cams if they can't have them display properly. What's the point if it looks like they are aiming 5 metres to the left or right?

Yeah, 50% of my problems with this game centers around the lack of prevalence of the scoreboard in favor of stuff like instant spawn and killcams, one of which ruins map flow and the other being just useless.
 

zap

Member
So, uh, where do I find the people who love this game? I seem to be the only one here.

I think most people really like the base gameplay, but there are so many decisons that make no sense, options removed or poorly implemented features.

We can see the potential of the game, but it needs a few changes and tweaks to make it great. Core gameplay is solid though.
 

Sai-kun

Banned
One of my friends is returning the game because he thinks the hitboxes are huge, because the kill cams inaccurate and misleading.
Sucks because I'm sure he isn't alone in thinking that.

Killcams are absolutely inaccurate and misleading. If they were accurate, I would literally be calling bullshit on almost every single death I've had in this game. I know when someone out-shoots me, and I don't mind it, but the killcams are seriously just always wrong.
 

SatansReverence

Hipster Princess
It's not that I don't believe you, but I really have trouble believing you unless you have played something like 10-20 games total.

Not sure how many I've played but it took more than 25 before I even got a loss and predictably that was because of a filthy fucking euro host.

This game is easy. Aim assist is greater than that in Halo 2 IMO.

I think most people really like the base gameplay, but there are so many decisons that make no sense, options removed or poorly implemented features.

We can see the potential of the game, but it needs a few changes and tweaks to make it great. Core gameplay is solid though.

Aside from the campaign, this game really does not feel like a quality product.
 
Not sure how many I've played but it took more than 25 before I even got a loss and predictably that was because of a filthy fucking euro host.

This game is easy. Aim assist is greater than that in Halo 2 IMO.

Again, not that I don't believe you, but this game doesn't let you 1v4 the enemy team. You could always be playing with a full party also, but again, I don't know until you post your stats. I'm pretty sure you can do it pretty easily through waypoint, save img, and post here.
 

Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
I've found that there's a general lack of polish with the matchmaking experience. Things like starting matches without even teams and then not filling that spot with JiP. Or when a game ends and you don't back out, sometimes it will go into map selection without finding opponents. So then the game starts and ends immediately. Just little inconsistencies like that that hold back the experience a little. I hope these get ironed out in future updates.
 
I think most people really like the base gameplay, but there are so many decisons that make no sense, options removed or poorly implemented features.

We can see the potential of the game, but it needs a few changes and tweaks to make it great. Core gameplay is solid though.

This has literally been every Halo I remember. Thats whats sad and I'm just getting too old to give a shit.

I didn't even do bad tonight and I sure as hell am going to dong harder coming days but there is so much potential squandered. Its infuriating, they aren't going to fix them at an acceptable rate.

To expect different is madness.
 

Ryaaan14

Banned
lol I remember when I thought I'd be playing with HaloGAFers the first few days of release.

Had no idea I'd be going in solo for 90% of the matches.
 

SatansReverence

Hipster Princess
Again, not that I don't believe you, but this game doesn't let you 1v4 the enemy team. You could always be playing with a full party also, but again, I don't know until you post your stats. I'm pretty sure you can do it pretty easily through waypoint, save img, and post here.

I have had games start 4v1 actually. Took about 2 minutes before JIP did it's job. Even had games start 4v0.

I would love to post my stats but my internet is capped (hence the 0.06up/down) and even after trying to load the page for 3 hours it wouldn't load. I will try to have a look through waypoint on 360 but that probably won't work either (343s network engineers are terrible at bandwidth management.).

they aren't going to fix them at an acceptable rate.

That's the sad truth of it.

By the time they get around to fixing JIP, adding GCS and fixing the many other little bullshit things that would never had passed Bungies doors no one will care because no one will be playing.
 
I think most people really like the base gameplay, but there are so many decisons that make no sense, options removed or poorly implemented features.

We can see the potential of the game, but it needs a few changes and tweaks to make it great. Core gameplay is solid though.

This is it, this right here is what I believe to be the general consensus. I'm sure so many people love this game, but it's far more fun/informative to discuss the things that don't make any sense (removing the red X death marks) with the ^general consensus being that this game is really good.

At least from my end I'll post less about "holy crap, the Sticky Detonator is the most amazing thing for this reason and that reason" and more about "let's make this game better" - When reading complaints, I just assume the people posting either like the game they're posting about or just want to piss people off.. and I haven't run across any real trolls around here so :]
 
lol I remember when I thought I'd be playing with HaloGAFers the first few days of release.

Had no idea I'd be going in solo for 90% of the matches.
Add me :)
XxDeputyMoonman
I'm looking forward to actually playing with people when I'm online. Only thing is I dont know if I'll be on again before the weekend. Busy tomorrow and possibly Friday.
 
Speaking of...

That feel when you stick det a kid on the face and he runs towards his buddies :D

Sticky Detonator is amazing lol, the mind games are legit :]

lol I remember when I thought I'd be playing with HaloGAFers the first few days of release.

Had no idea I'd be going in solo for 90% of the matches.

WHAT?! Is that intentional or what?? If not, me and my friends always have a blast dude.. add me!


These loadouts are great though, glad Halo has this now. Shielding/AA Efficiency + Dexterity for me ;] - Promethean Vision, Hologram and HLS are my go to AA's as of now. The AR/Magnum loadout is an absolute BEAST, especially on the smaller maps. The Magnum and automatics are extremely underutilized IMO.
 
So, uh, where do I find the people who love this game? I seem to be the only one here.
I absolutely LOVE this game, multiplayer is a frickin blast!

I'm just worried that kill cams could be a huge detriment to noobs' enjoyment, when its goal is to help them learn.
Like here is a guy that just posted in the Gaming side thread
Check out the kill cams. Auto aim is still rampant as hell.

Although we need more 4v4 maps, pronto!
I really hope this map pack in December adds at least 2.
 

TheOddOne

Member
I'm a short ways into mission 5.

I think the big
vehicle sections should have been paced better. Getting into the Scorpion for a canyon gauntlet run, right before the Mantis gauntlet run, and then the Mammoth gauntlet (though a thin one) grew a bit tiresome. I wanted to have a nice sniping episode or something in between. And all three sections were very narrow, forward only affairs.

The combination of those three sequences back to back kind of burned me out tonight, so I stopped a short ways into Mission 5. Did one game of Infinity Slayer BTB as a chaser. It feels a lot like BTB Heavies in Reach, but with a better core gameplay. Mostly a mess, but it can be a fun mess.
There are some genuine awesome sections that get bogged down by bad pacing. There are sections that are completely silent and beautiful that break up combat, which are brilliant because you can go around and look at everything, but the more you progress the less it happens. It just goes on a constant barrage of throwing enemies at you which makes the combat even tedious.

I’m playing Legendary, so that could be factor on why fatigue for me has set in so fast. Will do a normal walkthrough to see if my opinion changes. I wish theater was still in or hopefully will come back with a patch, because there are some awesome levels in the game.

Unrelated, I really like the core of multiplayer but most of my complaints are minor or outside of the game.
 

SatansReverence

Hipster Princess
Again, not that I don't believe you, but this game doesn't let you 1v4 the enemy team. You could always be playing with a full party also, but again, I don't know until you post your stats. I'm pretty sure you can do it pretty easily through waypoint, save img, and post here.

Well I had a look on Waypoint on 360 and apparently I've won 40 out of 44 (only remember losing a single game, more split game bullshit?) and have a 3.64 k/d.
 

Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
I'm actually surprised at how playable the game is with radar for me. Usually I can't stand it but I've still been having fun. Switching the Slayer Pro though, I immediately feel free. I'm using the AR and doing pretty well with it. It's amazing how consistent it is in the right range. The guys I'm playing against must be so mad lol.

Would love a No radar playlist full loadouts and maybe some AA's removed. I'd like like all the guns to be in play.
 
I'm actually surprised at how playable the game is with radar for me. Usually I can't stand it but I've still been having fun. Switching the Slayer Pro though, I immediately feel free. I'm using the AR and doing pretty well with it. It's amazing how consistent it is in the right range. The guys I'm playing against must be so mad lol.

Would love a No radar playlist full loadouts and maybe some AA's removed. I'd like like all the guns to be in play.
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