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Metro Last Light dev: 'Wii U has horrible, slow CPU' [Up: DICE dev comments]
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ThatObviousUser
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Less of a war and more of a random protester chucking a pebble at the armed forces.
pieatorium
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I'm fairly sure for Tomb Raider at least they specifically said there won't be a WiiU version
I'll take what I can get.
Thunder Monkey
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Thunder Monkey
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Stop saying that.
I don't need one that soon.
Well I might. I'll see what the Pikmin are doing to me then.
He also said:
I don't know about you, but I'm disappointed that Nintendo next gen console is barely on par with the current generation.
I'll still buy one eventually, ZombieU looks cool, and who doesn't like Mario? I'm interested. I'm just waiting to see how much it's going to cost on my country were most consoles are not officially released.
But make no mistake as soon as MS and Sony releases their next gen machines the difference between multi platform games are going to be huge. I guess it's safe to say that the difference is going to be like how PS3 and 360 games stack up to their PC versions.
I'll probably buy just the exclusive WiiU games, multiplatform ones I'm buying on PS4 or 720.
And here's the WHOLE quote:
http://www.computerandvideogames.co...tes-wii-u-is-minimum-as-powerful-as-xbox-360/
He was specifically addressing people saying it was weaker than current gen, back in June, when people were being very selectively careful with what they said.
And when did the word "minimum" come to mean the same thing as "maximum"?
All else being equal, an out-of-order processor is almost certainly a lot more efficient than an in-order one. But if, say, the in-order one is clocked at a much higher frequency, or the in-order one has powerful vector units while the out-of-order one does not, then there will still be lots of situations where the in-order CPU will be more capable.
not_so_special
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and its looking good
Thunder Monkey
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And this is why a lot of us went "Shit." when we saw it.
Thunder Monkey
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lightchris
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Also, there are always differences on how far the OoOE is taken.
A while ago I thought that three Broadway cores @ ~ 1.5 GHz would be enough to beat Xenon in many relevant cases (especially when you're not spending tons of time on optimizing code). Recently I read that 750CXe's out-of-order capatibilities are a bit limited compared to Intel's or AMD's solutions though. I'm not so sure anymore.
ThatObviousUser
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In a vacuum, Wii U isn't that bad of a console. If it were the only console in existence, we could probably do worse. Although, that "no digital transferring" policy is terribad in every universe and plane of existence.
Hmm. Maybe we couldn't do worse.
If there were no food in the world Vegemite would probably taste amazing.
StreetsAhead
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Vegemite is amazing. Shut your mouth.
pieatorium
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you're dead to me
ThatObviousUser
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Tofu too. Although, probably not.
Combichristoffersen
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I think I'd rather eat my own feces than ever taste vegemite again.
You love tofu and vegemite? That's a real pic avatar isn't it?
Nintendo was oh so short sighted with the release of the Wii U, even just double the power of PS3/360 would have been possible to do at a very reasonable price.
Trying too hard for the gimmick factor with the tablet control but the average child is not going to want it over the i pad which can do so much more and is actually portable outside the house.
People will but it for Nintendo games but once next gen starts from Sony and Microsoft it is all over for decent third party support.
Trying too hard for the gimmick factor with the tablet control but the average child is not going to want it over the i pad which can do so much more and is actually portable outside the house.
People will but it for Nintendo games but once next gen starts from Sony and Microsoft it is all over for decent third party support.
Kazuma Kiryu
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i know! seems to be a nice game too.
ColdBlooder
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Its starting very close th xbox 360 level. It will improve alot over time. Or do people in here really thing Wii U is closed to maxed out on day 1? LOL
freenudemacusers
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who is gonna bother to max it out, nintendo? especially when the tech junkie systems are dropping next year?
fear is a mind-killer
You'll regret ruffling his feathers...
Combichristoffersen
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Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
I have a jar of that vile, hideous shit (vegemite, not my feces) if you want it
There's a difference?
ColdBlooder
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Your opinion. And as i already stated in another thread. CELL >> A10 apu.
Oh btw, the A10 is in reality only 2 full cores, each with a seperate integer unit wich gets its own thread, so its not even a full quad core.
Porting PS3(!) stuff to PS4 is not going to be easy.
Thats what happens when consoles switch from being CPU centric to GPU centric. Wii U is built this way too, and IF the rumors about PS4/720 are true, so are those.
freenudemacusers
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this doesn't answer the (hypothetical) question.
Phonomezer
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I have a jar of that vile, hideous shit (vegemite, not my feces) if you want it
No, no, but thanks. You can use the magical brown yeast to dazzle unsuspecting visitors
(Vegemite, not your feces).You gotta love how he tried to divert the conversation onto the ps3/ps4 and totally
ignored your question about Wii U.
It's not going to physically increase in power. Has a 2nd gpu or 2nd cpu been germinated within the WiiU and will be ready to harvest(utilize) in a year or 2? Or do you mean how they'll eventually harness the 'power' of the console and still run games in sub HD, 30fps through 2013-2016?
Do I finish with an "LOL" to come across as being cool/smug?
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Well, what I got from that post is that if PS4 and Nextbox run on similar architecture devs will learn how to take advantage of it. Even if those systems are far more powerful, work on them could benefit WiiU more than work on PS360. And it could get decent downscaled ports even if people think it can't even get 1:1 current ports if the reason really is the different architecture. We'll see.
Haha. My GF loves tofu and all that meat-alternative stuff, I can't stand most of it.
She's beautiful though.
never heard of anything called Vegemite
Combichristoffersen
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ColdBlooder
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We don´t know how powerful it actually is so your post makes no sense at all.
Phonomezer
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It's lovely with butter on hot toast
Don't pay attention to Combichristoffersen, he obviously has a very immature palate as Vegemite is considered a delicacy in Western Australia and other uninhabitable parts of the planet
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
You may know it as "Marmite" (Still awful!)
Marmite and Vegemite are different. Both are very polarising tastes. I love marmite, but don't like Vegemite. You have to use it very sparingly or it can be too much
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
Both taste extremely similar to me, but then I hated both when I tried them so there could be a more refined difference between them.
Both are brown crap made from yeast extract that only people with no self-respect eat XD
Both are brown crap made from yeast extract that only people with no self-respect eat XD
Vigilant Walrus
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Slow CPU, but can this situation be compared to PS3s Cell?
I wonder if Wii U is easy to develop for at least. Many companies might make remakes, ports and HD remakes on Wii U for a quick easy buck. Imagine all the great games from the last two generations on Wii U. Particularly those good ones that didn't sell.
I wonder if Wii U is easy to develop for at least. Many companies might make remakes, ports and HD remakes on Wii U for a quick easy buck. Imagine all the great games from the last two generations on Wii U. Particularly those good ones that didn't sell.
Barack Lesnar
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Don't think so. The Cell was completely new, alien architecture to devs and really did take a lot of time to get a grasp of and get the most out of. This isn't the case with the Wii U's CPU.
H_Prestige
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No, because the Cell is fast as hell. It's the GPU that sucks ass.
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