Next gen will not need custom AA, I guess. All those solutions are borned just to save resources in the current generation, imho.
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Next gen will not need custom AA, I guess. All those solutions are borned just to save resources in the current generation, imho.
Guerrillas in the Mist
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So it's superior to FXAA and it doesn't hit performance like MSAA? Nice.
Lol. How developer cares of pc today, with all respect.
Would the difference be noticable for that?
Oh. That's good info. And SweetFX is what people like to use to force SMAA if the game doesn't support it natively?
You say to a quote where I say the exact same publisher / studio has a game out where they added TXAA.
Yes, SweetFX or the SMAA Injector from the developers themselves, SweetFX uses those files. However with injectors you only get 1x. Needs to be implemented natively by the developers to go beyond that.
Cool. I will have to check it out. Been using FXAA but if the performance is roughly the same I will have to see if it looks better.
AgentOtaku
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still crazy they managed to squeeze this onto dem consoles
Well, I have seen the videos on DF site but not seems it use MSAA on console, honestly. The lines suffer a lot of shimmering & I'm unable to see any sort of MSAA 'artifact'; it seems a typical FXAA or post AA, I don't understand why DF analyzer claims MSAA. I noticed too a slight better texture filter or AF in the ps3 version (not very notable),in any case shadows dithering on ps3 is very weird, I'm unable to understand what's happened, ps3 typically manage shadow filter better.
TheBioLover
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It's embarrassing for Ubisoft when you see what 343 and Naughty Dog and the like are doing on 6-7 year old consoles.
Isn't not embarassing, far cry 3 still remain very impressive for the current hardware of console, imho.
- They are exclusives, i.e. no distribution of resources and further optimization for different consoles.
- Neither Uncharted nor Halo are as expansive as Far Cry 3.
Even the first parties of Sony and MS are now wishing they'd flex their creative muscles on a next gen system. And, I am pretty certain they have already started.
Mister0079
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FC3 is an open-world game, far more demanding technically than linear shooters.
Stallion Free
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Uncharted and Halo 4 are open world?
TheBioLover
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PPAA will still be very popular next Gen.
You don't compare an open world sandbox game to the highly linear UC series or less constrained (but still linear) halo series. Just like you don't compare Halo to UC.
I don't understand why these comparisons are constantly done.
Edit: nevermind =P
TheBioLover
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Why? I hope don't need of PPAA.
ii Stryker
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So I'm wondering if I should hold off until the inevitable FC3 instincts is announced for nextbox/ps4?
I was really looking forward to this game too. =/
I was really looking forward to this game too. =/
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The PS3 screenshot is wrong, there is a weird compression issue with the JPG.
CadetMahoney
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Might check out the demo for 360, although these types of games aren't my thing.
Unfortunately I don't think so. It's just dithering.
splattered
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This may be a silly question and possibly already discussed seeing as how i jumped from page to 4... haha but is it at all possible for them to release a patch to improve performance on consoles? I think that was done with Darksiders for Screen Tearing and Oblivion for graphical enhancements... wasn't it? I'm sure plenty other games i can't think of at the moment too. Probably will never happen, but would be nice. FC3 is the game i have been looking forward to MOST this entire year. :/
Agni is using PPAA....
Fixed. Really, the differences are so subltle even to point out what is better here. Well a part the weird filter shadow choice on the ps3, still I'm surprise to not to see otherwise, imho.
Read my post above, lol. I get it.
Yeah I saw that and edited my post, sorry =D
Even at 1080p you still need some form of AA and at the end of the day MSAA will always be more expensive than a PPAA. So in these boxes with a finite amount of resources, I can see devs using PPAA as a cost saving technique.
I don't knew Agni, my apologies. But, in any case I don't see the reason to use PPAA in the next gen if the hardware will be enough powerful, but I could wrong.
splattered
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Don't forget the FULL black bars around the PS3 version, missing foilage background details on the PS3, and an even worse frame rate according to DF... maybe a little more like PC>>>>360>>PS3
Yeah, that popped out at me as well. It is missing a ton of trees.
Sorry but lol, highly probable it's a streaming issue, if you refer of the missed details in the background on the ps3.
at this rate it would probably be FC4 instead.
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It has nothing to do with being powerful enough, it just depends on what the dev values more. PPAA is cheap and allows devs to push other things further and obviously the average user can't see the difference between PPAA or a better more demanding form of AA unless you show them clear cut direct comparisons. That isn't going to change next gen.
Come on, man. The game is not some broken, unplayable mess and it is getting glowing reviews across all platforms. If any of this was a deal breaker, you would think it would be mentioned by at least someone in the reviews. It is just a huge, demanding game with a lot going on, but is still amazing all the same. I know I am going to enjoy it.
I understand what you mean, but probably I'm too much optimist to think next generation not need of that 'cheap' features.
banjoted
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Eh? Crysis ran really well on Xbox 360. I'd rather have a scaled back game that runs smooth than a game that pushes the boat out at the detriment of the basic i.e. framerate
Maybe if the game was 60fps.
But it's not even 30fps... It's 25fps. You'll notice the jaggies more.
banjoted
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Honestly - it's the first console game ever I do think is rendered unplayable by its technical failings. Astonished it wasn't picked up more for it in reviews.
All the hours of gameplay footage I have watched makes it look more than playable for me. *shrugs* Guess it all comes down to your tolerance for such issues. I'm convinced I'll be fine with it.
On average this game has a worse framerate than Castlevania: Lords of Shadow.
If you're playing a game with a framerate worse than that... Something has got to give. And I beat that game.
Lords of Shadow is one of my favorite games of this gen. Considering the size and everything that is going on here, I'll be able to overlook it. Judging by the reception the game is getting, it seems most are able to do so as well.
so DF would not wait until the PS3 finished streaming a new scene before it captures? just grabbing it the mili-instant it strats to draw?
um no
Probably you don't know what streaming issue mean, I guess. It's cutscene, in any case.
Oh, come on... even DF said the only reason why give the point to 360 is the shadows 'issue' on ps3. FPS sometimes have a slight higher 2 fps average, dat 2 fps lol.
Devil Theory
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Coincidentally I ordered both of these for 360 a few days ago and should receive them soon. I'm hoping it's not that distracting.