gingerbeardman
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It's my understanding that the system software overwrites the old version. So, whilst it may grow in size over time, it won;t full up your 8GB any time soon.
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New Wii U Firmware (12/04/2012)
- Thread starter PixyJunket
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badnewsbeers
Member
Updated in about 30 mins. Not crazy long, but xbl puts it to shame. Really can't tell much of a difference in speed, and to be honest my wii u has never frozen. Hopefully this will prevent it from doing so in the future, that's about all I can say.
faster than my PS3 was before they finally got incremental updates.
donkey show
Member
Where'd you get it for that price?
Skyfireblaze
Member
My update was done in about 50 minutes including the installation, that's not speedy but also not enough to annoy me 
Things feel a bit snappier now but that might be my imagination and I'm sorry for the person that bricked the Wii U by unplugging even though no update was being done
I actually have a theory about these bricks from hardlocking though since there seem to be two kinds of hardlocks. One kind of hardlock is what the name implies, no matter how long you wait the console wouldn't do anything anymore and unplugging here shouldn't brick the Wii U. But the other type I have experienced seems to be some sort of temporary freeze...
I say that because one time when I tried to access Miiverse the console would just hang on the loading screen and I thought I have gotten my first hardlock though I went out of the room for about five minutes and just before I went and pulled the plug I noticed the console suddenly unfroze itself and resumed like nothing ever happened so it could be that the bricks occur when the power is pulled should the console be in a freeze and not a lock :/
I would say anyone experiencing a lock-up should wait atleast five minutes before unplugging it.
Things feel a bit snappier now but that might be my imagination and I'm sorry for the person that bricked the Wii U by unplugging even though no update was being done I actually have a theory about these bricks from hardlocking though since there seem to be two kinds of hardlocks. One kind of hardlock is what the name implies, no matter how long you wait the console wouldn't do anything anymore and unplugging here shouldn't brick the Wii U. But the other type I have experienced seems to be some sort of temporary freeze...
I say that because one time when I tried to access Miiverse the console would just hang on the loading screen and I thought I have gotten my first hardlock though I went out of the room for about five minutes and just before I went and pulled the plug I noticed the console suddenly unfroze itself and resumed like nothing ever happened so it could be that the bricks occur when the power is pulled should the console be in a freeze and not a lock :/
I would say anyone experiencing a lock-up should wait atleast five minutes before unplugging it.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Bit of a weird question, but has anyone with an un-updated WiiU fresh from a store had to do updates here? Just wondering if they're doing this shit cumulatively, or if people come Christmas are looking at a 1.6gb update over just a 1gb one?
Does anybody know if this replaces the 1gb patch for those who have not already installed it, or if those poor sods need to install both one after another? I'm thinking about holding off any patching for now but don't want to lumber myself with having to do a dozen at once later on.
Edit: Pie and Beans beat me to it
Edit: Pie and Beans beat me to it
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Actually, doing bug-free software is pretty much the rocket science of computing (some of the most advanced branches of computer science and mathematics are dealing with the problem). So far 99.99% of all sw on Earth has been released on the absolutely subjective 'Joe says this should be good enough' coming from a high-enough level in the chain of command. Whether other companies have done better launches sw-quality-wise is not so relevant (nintendo have done better launches themselves), what is relevant is if other companies have launched the same complexity sw in the same timeframe. But unless we know what's happening under the hood of the OS, we can't make claims about anybody's competence, outside of the consumer's 'I expect this to just work.'
Like the hat?
Banned
Wonder if this stops wii mode home brew. Doubt it, but I dunno.
Rob Schnoddor
Banned
6 Hours? What? Downloaded the update this morning, download itself took about 25 minutes, installing about the same amount. EU/German wii u premium model here.
bequietdrive
Member
Does this update not come up automatically? I had to go into system settings > find updates to get it..
EU/German WiiU here too. Took me about 30min for dowloading and installing.
Welcome to Nintendos FW policy.
Goodacre0081
Member
im sitting at around 55% and it's been 30min already. shits slow
donkey show
Member
lol, 10Mb not at the house and it took an hour to download.
Seeing as there are such varying experiences in download times, ranging from 15hrs to 20 minutes:
Instead of just posting "X hours, WTF Nintendo" or "X minutes, lolz y'alls internet is junk" could those of you who haven't already, try and include your broadband upload/download speeds (according to your router - Not speedtest.com), ping, latency/jitter, packet loss (if possible) and physical location.
This might help some smarter folk (not me!) work out what's going on and why there's such a huge disparity in speeds/times.
Instead of just posting "X hours, WTF Nintendo" or "X minutes, lolz y'alls internet is junk" could those of you who haven't already, try and include your broadband upload/download speeds (according to your router - Not speedtest.com), ping, latency/jitter, packet loss (if possible) and physical location.
This might help some smarter folk (not me!) work out what's going on and why there's such a huge disparity in speeds/times.
starts downloading automatically when you boot up, but in the background (you won't see it unless you go to download management)
Doesn't seem to install automatically if you just sit in the WiiU menu, but triggers when your return to it. Eg mine looked like it had finished downloading, but it didn't install until I went into settings and came back out to the main menu
gamergirly
Member
Yeah because 20 hours is far beyond normal. Something wrong with YOUR internet setup if it takes that long, not Nintendo lol
Just went to my download management and it was already downloading. Nice
you can schedule downloads on the wii u??? i didnt know that
Vyse The Legend
Member
So... did it alleviate the lock ups?
kitchenmotors
Banned
So my Wii U was bricked last night during the update. It was updating and the Wii U shut off, wouldn't turn back on. Called Nintendo and sent out the system this morning, should have a new one back next week. I'm a little frustrated as this is my first system to completely die on me and I've been gaming since the NES and have owned every major system and handheld that's been released since then. I suppose it was only a matter of time.
I was worried about getting back my original NIN ID and purchases but seems like that's not an issue, it's just the save files that I won't get back.
I was worried about getting back my original NIN ID and purchases but seems like that's not an issue, it's just the save files that I won't get back.
AndyMoogle
Member
You keep your Wii U on at all times?
fabricated backlash
Member
It kind of reminds me of how my 360 performed (or didn't) when Halo 3 released. MS's servers were comletely overloaded and I had to disconnect my 360 in order to have the Dashboard react at all.
fabricated backlash
Member
6 Hours? what the? Took me a total of 25 minutes for download and installation this morning.
ToastyBanana
Member
No. Are you suggesting that it doesn't download in its off / sleep mode? I assume it is like the Wii's Connect 24, and therefore can download even when "off" -- is that not correct?
If you are right, it must have downloaded when I played NSMBU and messed around in Miiverse last night before bed, but that was only about an hour or so, and I wasn't prompted until shortly after turning it on this morning.
EDIT:
http://www.ign.com/wikis/wii-u/Spotpass (IGN is not the best source, but still...)
Pretty sure it does download full firmware and patches when sleeping even if you do nothing. That would certainly explain why it was ready just after turning it on today, and again with no input from me whatsoever.
KojiKnight
Member
It's not, my results match yours almost exactly (including subsequent loads being faster, which makes sense since the majority of it will still be in RAM).
The people quoting 4-6 second load times I'd love to see some videos of... I've watched other videos online and they are all 15+ seconds on first load... so this mythical 4-10 seconds would be quite a sight to behold.
AndyMoogle
Member
An hour should be enough for the download to complete. It took me ~40 mins.
See my edit. Your assumption that the Wii U must be "on" is false.
AndyMoogle
Member
That's the first time I've ever heard of it. I don't think it's true at all considering that there are no spotpass options outside of New Super Mario Bros U.
Couldn't you just... look at the meter before you leave?
I'm fairly sure that I get charged extra for Emergency Credit, which is why I go to some pains to try to avoid stumbling into it.
I get where you're coming from on this, but there's also a need for some perspective here. This isn't Microsoft releasing an OS that has to run on tens of thousands of possible different hardware configurations with varying extremes of performance capabilities, and be able to flawlessly work with decades of software. Nintendo controls
As far as the timeframe, Nintendo has been working on the Wii U since the release of the Wii. The Wii launched in 2006. Nintendo's had six years to figure out how the OS on their new console is going to work.
I'd say that the consumer's "I expect this to just work" is the only relevant issue; the consumer doesn't care how complex the OS is, what's going on under the hood of the Wii U, etc. If Nintendo can't meet consumer expectations, Nintendo has competence problems. Hopefully they are just growing pains and will be ironed out soon.
if it was just their internet, it would (probably) happen with everything, and they'd have little reason to complain since it would be the norm.
Well you'd hope so. Could just be some rubbish servers and those getting the shitty times are those unlucky enough to get one of the shitty servers when they downloaded. Just seems such a massive gap between longest & shortest d/l times....
I'm not quite sure we can blame their router/internet setup for the terrible download times just yet. How can it be their setup if they get very good browser/eshop/miiverse speeds? Seems like some funky server shit going on here. Thankfully my experience has been generally positive with cumulative times being aprox 1hr20min for both downloading patches/installs.
Not sure if this was in reply to me, but if so: I'm not implying its people routers at fault - I'm just asking they give as much info as possible so that we can maybe find out what's going on.
Right now it seems there's some very bad servers and some good ones. If we know the circumstances of those whose d/l is taking 15hrs and those taking 20mins it will be easier to get some useful info out of it.
Joseph Flemming
Member
I must be incredibly lucky, I live in the states, East Coast, started the download for the update at 10:50, it has already downloaded and is now 44% done updating. Amazing speed. Much different than the day 1 update (for me)
Premium WiiU
Edit 1- 11:04 = 85%
Final update:
Finished at 11:07
Total time for DL & install 17 minutes.
Premium WiiU
Edit 1- 11:04 = 85%
Final update:
Finished at 11:07
Total time for DL & install 17 minutes.
certainly seems like its luck of the draw getting onto a decent open server.
Nintendo need to sort this very quickly otherwise Christmas day will be a catastrophe. All them updates on one day....
Anyone with a new WiiU (since yesterday) who can confirm you only had the one patch to download on startup?
That's still simplistic. You don't start building your OS until you have stable hardware. They've realistically had probably in the neighborhood of a year to build this and there's probably been many a tea table upended in the mean time. You're right to call out consumer expectation and they don't care, if it crashes then that's a bad experience. But also note worthy is that this typically isn't what people remember. If I ask someone about 360 they don't think of $500, no HDMI, no Wifi, RROD, terrible launch lineup, and the blade interface. They typically think of the current interface, current hardware, last couple of late-gen high-budget games to come out and the current best price.
Patches are always good. You want more stable than less, you want better than worse, you want more features than less, you want more performance than less. People understand this generally and perhaps that's why we have a whole thread of people watching a progress bar for an hour+ and complaining rather than utilize one of Wii U's many features to unobtrusively download it.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
I'm on the East Coast. My download and install took about 15 minutes too.
Version 3.0
Member
Downloaded last night, took about 45 min.
The OS isn't any faster, at least not for me. I have the exact same 20-22 sec load time to get back to the home menu from games/apps. And also the same 12-15 sec no-activity splash screen before apps load.
I timed these before and after the update, going in/out of ZombiU, Mighty Switch Force, Nano Assault, and Youtube.
The OS isn't any faster, at least not for me. I have the exact same 20-22 sec load time to get back to the home menu from games/apps. And also the same 12-15 sec no-activity splash screen before apps load.
I timed these before and after the update, going in/out of ZombiU, Mighty Switch Force, Nano Assault, and Youtube.
Joseph Flemming
Member
I counted the reboot and login time also, so we are about even.. Maybe we have access to more servers in our region?
