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Omni

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Hot damn. I've gone back to play Halo 2 campaign for the first time in... four years, or so? After Reach and Halo 4 you feel like you're gliding through the armory. FPS have really come a long way from just being detached cameras floating on eye level.

Meh. Delta Halo and Gravemind/High Charity still beat anything that we got in Reach and 4, IMO.
 

Yeah, really Wu. I expected better :(

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I'm so sick of the current playlists and I don't have any friends to play custom games with. I made a 2vs2 map but can't properly playtest it...
 
I'm so sick of the current playlists and I don't have any friends to play custom games with. I made a 2vs2 map but can't properly playtest it...

I think it's safe to say a Custom Games Browser (alongside 343's MM vision of Halo) would've helped a lot with the issues people are having.
 

Ramirez

Member
lol, I'll never understand the ire this game is getting on here, considering how people put up with Reach so much longer.
 

GrizzNKev

Banned
lol, I'll never understand the ire this game is getting on here, considering how people put up with Reach so much longer.

Because this is worse.

Because we were promised over and over, "We'll fix what was wrong with Reach, we'll make Halo feel like Halo again."

And all they did was remove one armor ability, and add 100 worse things.
 

wwm0nkey

Member
Because this is worse.

Because we were promised over and over, "We'll fix what was wrong with Reach, we'll make Halo feel like Halo again."

And all they did was remove one armor ability, and add 100 worse things.

I consider Reach MUCH worse than Halo 4.
 

Fracas

#fuckonami
Load of horseshit.



If your not having fun your not having fun. Strange that such issues weren't present when playing Reach. Maybe I just have shitty player habits.


...but now that I have drop recon everyone will want to play with me, until they leave me once they get the specialization.



Where does this avatar rank?
Lol better than your first one at least.
lol, I'll never understand the ire this game is getting on here, considering how people put up with Reach so much longer.
We thought there was a light at the end of the tunnel.
 

heckfu

Banned
lol, I'll never understand the ire this game is getting on here, considering how people put up with Reach so much longer.

This game is literally 20 times better than Reach. Team Regicide is one of the best playlists introduced in the franchise, too.

Fix the other shit, maybe toss in some X's and ranks and we've got ourselves a game.
 
Biggy, you have the best and worst avatars on GAF

But then again, mine is a Seel with a santa hat
Seal with the santa hat is epic. Don't change it.
Because this is worse.

Because we were promised over and over, "We'll fix what was wrong with Reach, we'll make Halo feel like Halo again."

And all they did was remove one armor ability, and add 100 worse things.
Even with Halo 4's issues, I like the game loads better than Reach.
 

Ramirez

Member
Because this is worse.

Because we were promised over and over, "We'll fix what was wrong with Reach, we'll make Halo feel like Halo again."

And all they did was remove one armor ability, and add 100 worse things.

Do you have a direct quote on that? Frankie said on here that Reach was to him one of the best FPS ever made.

Lol better than your first one at least.

We thought there was a light at the end of the tunnel.

That's not 343's fault that you set yourself up. You could literally see exactly what type of game this was gonna be months before it launched.

The game has issues, but I still have more fun with it than I ever did with Reach.
 

GrizzNKev

Banned
Okay I guess I feel little more betrayed than other people.

Campaign was definitely better than Reach. Way better.

Do you have a direct quote on that? Frankie said on here that Reach was to him one of the best FPS ever made.

No but that's always the impression I got. This thread was orgasming over Halo 4 for ages even though it was obvious that it wasn't really what they wanted.

Go back to Reach days, lot of people wanted AAs gone, period. That's what powerups were supposed to be for.
 

Caja 117

Member
This game is literally 20 times better than Reach. Team Regicide is one of the best playlists introduced in the franchise, too.

Fix the other shit, maybe toss in some X's and ranks and we've got ourselves a game.
Yeah, this game has some issues (fixable issues), but is better than reach by far, this is coming from a guy that made it to inheritor.
 

Karl2177

Member
I hate Promethean Vision so fucking much. I hate Camo so fucking much. I hate Jetpack so fucking much. All of these abilities are a detriment to some form of the gameplay. Why are they in the game?

I'm trying to enjoy this game. Fuck, I even enjoyed no sprint, no instant respawns last night. But I can't stand what armor abilities do to the gameplay.
 

Ryaaan14

Banned
Gameplay feels way more like Halo than Reach did.

Reach felt like, nothing I've played. And certainly wouldn't want to play.

Yeah there are problems with 4, and hilariously bad decisions in the game design, but to be honest I have never played a Halo game I didn't have issues with. I have never gotten *my* perfect Halo game, so I sure as hell am not delusional enough to expect it.

Halo 3 was close though
 

GrizzNKev

Banned
I just hate how AAs have become a part of the core design. They should have been left with Reach. There will never be a new Halo without AAs now that Halo 4 has done it.
 

Fracas

#fuckonami
I would have been fine with armor abilities if their use was limited (maybe have AA "booster packs" scattered around the map or something).
 

Ryaaan14

Banned
I just hate how AAs have become a part of the core design. They should have been left with Reach. There will never be a new Halo without AAs now that Halo 4 has done it.

I think the more upsetting thing is that there is no support for classic Halo.

I was excited when I thought that Halo 4 would have the wacky AA modes, and then an option for traditional Halo gameplay. We didn't get that whatsoever. And the frustrating part is, it would not be difficult to support a 100% classic mode.
 

Havok

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Eh, it's a mixed bag. Base gameplay is better than Reach, but I don't really enjoy the gametypes the same way I was able to even with Reach. Slayer seems to be more or less what it always was, which is fine, and I can still get a kick out of it (Team Regicide is pretty good, and is my favorite Slayer-type playlist in the game). Objective stuff is hit or miss, with an emphasis on miss. Smart changes to King and Oddball, but it's not enough to make them last for long stretches, and CTF I can't work up any enthusiasm toward at all. The improvements made towards the first two can't justify the loss of certain other gametypes for me, though I'm sure those things will be playable in some form or another soon.

It's certainly got a lot more potential than Reach did. I'd love to say that the core game is enough to make it one of my favorites, but that possibility is fading pretty quickly for me. If or when gametypes get their fixes, if or when Big Team is worth playing again, I'll probably be able to have more fun than I did with Reach, but I don't think I was ever as apathetic towards it as I am towards Halo 4 at the moment. Whatever they do to instant respawn and global ordnance will have a pretty big impact on my enjoyment of the game, whether it's keeping it in or changing it to be something sensible. Not that I want the same game over and over again (loadouts and perks I ultimately don't have a big problem with outside of specific issue-creating items), but I'd like the pace of the game to return to its former state since that really defined the series for me more than any one other thing.
 

GrizzNKev

Banned
I think the more upsetting thing is that there is no support for classic Halo.

I was excited when I thought that Halo 4 would have the wacky AA modes, and then an option for traditional Halo gameplay. We didn't get that whatsoever. And the frustrating part is, it would not be difficult to support a 100% classic mode.

What makes it worse is that I played classic Halo in Halo 4 last night.

If modders can do it in a month, 343 can do it in a day.

Ugh.
 

Tawpgun

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My avatars are to be taken as seriously as Heckfu's posts.



I feel that the sandbox needs to be honed too.

My sandbox issues would be alleviated if the game had set loadouts.

BTB issues are obvious, but having people spawn with stickies and just suicide sticking you when you get close... I've even had a guy run up, stick me, and hard light himself to survive.
 
I would have been fine with armor abilities if their use was limited (maybe have AA "booster packs" scattered around the map or something).

Yup. Watching those Making of Halo 3 videos reminded me how cool AA's would've been as map pickups like equipment ;[

If the next Smash has perks...... CoD will have taken over everything I cherished in MP gaming.

I'd love to say that the core game is enough to make it one of my favorites, but that possibility is fading pretty quickly for me.

Should be made into a Halo OT title.
 

Ryaaan14

Banned
What makes it worse is that I played classic Halo in Halo 4 last night.

If modders can do it in a month, 343 can do it in a day.

Ugh.
Yup.

And fuck it, just make a SINGLE classic hopper! Mix Slayer and Objective! Who cares. It's better than nothing.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun

Sexy fun times.

So I take it that this thread is the actual OT? So bitter, haha.

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Quite excited to see what comes out of the second half of Spartan Ops. Reading Ellis's comments from last night or whatever gives me hope. Of course environments will be reused, but at the very least there will be some new ones.

New until they aren't.
 

Omni

Member
So I take it that this thread is the actual OT? So bitter, haha.

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Quite excited to see what comes out of the second half of Spartan Ops. Reading Ellis's comments from last night or whatever gives me hope. Of course environments will be reused, but at the very least there will be some new ones.
 

Ramirez

Member
How mad are you all gonna be when the 2nd half of SpOps takes place in the other half of the campaign environments they didn't use for the first half? :p

I see jungles in our future.
 

Omni

Member
How mad are you all gonna be when the 2nd half of SpOps takes place in the other half of the campaign environments they didn't use for the first half? :p

I see jungles in our future.

Honestly? I'm expecting it. Not gonna bother me much at all if they're ripped from campaign. Just sick of the same 5 or so maps coming up... (Sniper Alley can smd)
 
I hate Promethean Vision so fucking much. I hate Camo so fucking much. I hate Jetpack so fucking much. All of these abilities are a detriment to some form of the gameplay. Why are they in the game?

I'm trying to enjoy this game. Fuck, I even enjoyed no sprint, no instant respawns last night. But I can't stand what armor abilities do to the gameplay.
Remove those three AA's, add in red x death markers, respawn timers, and all of a sudden the game gets much much better, like exponentially better. I have no idea what 343 is smoking not go ahead and just do that right this second. Live in the now!!!
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
How mad are you all gonna be when the 2nd half of SpOps takes place in the other half of the campaign environments they didn't use for the first half? :p

I see jungles in our future.

People would be idiots not to expect it and a mix of more MP maps.
 
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