To continue playing devil's advocate...perhaps they felt it didn't fit the specific tone of the movie and what they wanted to emphasize this time around, for better or for worse, considering the first film had already established that there are some supernatural elements at work. I think we all know the original manga had more than enough elbow room to insert little bits and pieces of build-up or foreshadowing, but it's clear these movies are simply telling a very abridged version of the story.
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To continue playing devil's advocate...perhaps they felt it didn't fit the specific tone of the movie and what they wanted to emphasize this time around, for better or for worse, considering the first film had already established that there are some supernatural elements at work. I think we all know the original manga had more than enough elbow room to insert little bits and pieces of build-up or foreshadowing, but it's clear these movies are simply telling a very abridged version of the story.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
That bird is gonna ruin the show.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
trying too hard
Plus,
it helps develop the relationship of Zodd and Guts, gives us a small insight into Zodd's interest in Guts and I think some of the stuff later on in the manga makes more sense with it happening (the two of them cooperating in the battle against Ganishka).
Regulus Tera
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Joe Molotov
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There was extra information in the negatives, but the shots weren't framed to be shown in 16:9, even if there weren't boom mics and lights hanging around everywhere in the edge of the shot which there was (I'm not sure why you think they're lying about this). It doesn't have anything to do with being lazy or they didn't know what they were doing, it was about preserving the OAR. Lawrence of Arabia was shot on 70mm and intended to be shown on wide screens, it's not like Sony put in some extra effort to make it widescreen.
So we're getting concrete information about the adaptation of the next six books.
Meanwhile there is still no release date for Kizu...
Okay, so I'm currently watching the second Berserk movie and I was actually enjoying it, much more than the first one that's for sure. Must be the extremely lowered expectations.
So here comes the battle for Doldrey, and god motherfucking damn, these IDIOTS changed my favorite moment((((((((((((((((((((
They destroyed the most perfect scene.
There's no Zodd, he doesn't throw his sword to Guts, Guts' sword doesn't break, he just beats the general and that's it, it sucks, it's boring, it's stupid, it lacks that impact of the original scene, that small touch of fantasy that made that battle special, it ruined the entire motherfucking film for me and now I don't even feel like finishing it. I don't get it, why would you do that, it doesn't make sense. Fuck this shit.
And I usually hate these types of rants, it just pissed me off so much.
That's some Bullshit
You could ostensibly say that, with the benefit of hindsight, but
the later scenes where Zodd actually talks about/to Guts are much more relevant for that purpose than this one. The act of just silently throwing a sword comes across, more than anything else, as far too mysterious and whimsical at first glance. There's no real attempt to explain why Zodd would even care about Guts, someone who for all he knows is destined to die when a certain "inescapable" sacrifice happens, until quite some time afterwards.
In any case, I know this is not going to change anyone's mind and I'm not that interested in the movies myself, so this argument is mostly academic.
What? 4:3 is the original aspect ratio. It should be shown in the original aspect ratio only -- period. Anything else is incorrect.
You do make a valid point with your arguments, but I still don't think that the film benefits in any way with that removal, and it loses an incredible scene which would improve the overall atmosphere a lot.
I really do believe that the reason for the removal of the scene is, as you've already presumed, an attempt to remove all of the fantasy elements from this part of the story to make
The Eclipse
They did show
Puck
There are only three more books after the second season and Kizu.
Nisio may not cooperate with your wishes
;~~;There are only three more books after the second season and Kizu.
Nisio may not cooperate with your wishes
Maybe we can get Rebuild of Bakemonogatari.
PdotMichael
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well, better than "Haruhi S3 fucking when?" or "Spice and Wolf S3 fucking when?" ne?
Theonik
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Ice.Cold.
The question then is what purpose the movies serve. If they were a sort of reinterpretation of the manga, with a very specific purpose of their own with something different to say about the same characters with a different tone, then sure, that is a valid point. But as it is, it appears that the movies are mostly a straight adaptation of the manga, with less content. As such, it should attempt to retain as much of the original tone as possible since it clearly isn't really bringing anything new to the table. If it fails in that as well, then it is at best a poor adaptation, and at worse, a complete waste of time and effort.
After the CG in the Berserk movie it was nice to see this November Sakuga MAD on my YouTube homepage.
At least S&W got to season 2 and Haruhi S3 is just a matter of when, not if. That's more than I can say for something hopeless like
Nichijou
Hellsing321
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Not that anyone cares but here are the results for 2ch's AOTY thread. I'm actually shocked that Tari Tari won.
http://uni.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/anime4vip/1356451718/956
1位　Tari Tari： 1659
2位　Girls und Panzer： 1620
3位　Hyouka： 1296
4位　Jojo's Bizarre Adventure 2012： 1239
5位　Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita： 1160
6位　Saki Achiga-hen： 754
7位　Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai!： 733
8位　Joshiraku： 636
9位　Bodacious Space Pirates： 551
10位　Sakamichi no Apollon： 537
11位　PSYCHO-PASS： 527
12位　Sword Art Online： 505
13位　Mysterious Girlfriend X： 412
14位　Another： 400
15位　Little Busters： 394
16位　Kill Me Babby： 342
17位　Nisemonogatari： 332
18位　Yuru Yuri S2： 329
19位　Oda Nobuna no Yabou： 286
20位　Accel World： 267
21位　Hidamari Sketch x Honeycomb： 256
22位　Jormungand： 255
23位　Senki Zesshou Symphogear： 253
24位　Sengoku Collection： 246
25位　Danshi Koukousei no Nichijou： 235
26位　Shinsekai Yori： 232
27位　InuxBoku SS： 202
28位　Kyoukaisenjou no Horizon II： 200
29位　Smile Precure： 199
30位　Tsuritama： 198
http://uni.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/anime4vip/1356451718/956
1位　Tari Tari： 1659
2位　Girls und Panzer： 1620
3位　Hyouka： 1296
4位　Jojo's Bizarre Adventure 2012： 1239
5位　Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita： 1160
6位　Saki Achiga-hen： 754
7位　Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai!： 733
8位　Joshiraku： 636
9位　Bodacious Space Pirates： 551
10位　Sakamichi no Apollon： 537
11位　PSYCHO-PASS： 527
12位　Sword Art Online： 505
13位　Mysterious Girlfriend X： 412
14位　Another： 400
15位　Little Busters： 394
16位　Kill Me Babby： 342
17位　Nisemonogatari： 332
18位　Yuru Yuri S2： 329
19位　Oda Nobuna no Yabou： 286
20位　Accel World： 267
21位　Hidamari Sketch x Honeycomb： 256
22位　Jormungand： 255
23位　Senki Zesshou Symphogear： 253
24位　Sengoku Collection： 246
25位　Danshi Koukousei no Nichijou： 235
26位　Shinsekai Yori： 232
27位　InuxBoku SS： 202
28位　Kyoukaisenjou no Horizon II： 200
29位　Smile Precure： 199
30位　Tsuritama： 198
Dedication Through Light
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We live in a world in which Symphogear, Yuri Yuri, and Sengoku Collection are better than Tsuritama, Shin Sekai Yori, Daily Lives of Highschool Boys and Horizon II?! I cant. Poor Accel World.
Wrong! It's not the same, its not the same at all!
Theonik
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"Fuck you NeoGAF" - 2ch, various members at various occasions.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
They left out Ano Natsu. 2ch is dead to me,
Theonik
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No Space Brothers, what a shitty list.
Tari Tari sort of makes sense to me. It's very middle of the road, generically pleasing to almost all audiences (mixed gender cast with an even focus, comedy and drama in equal measure, songs etc. etc.) and exactly the kind of thing I think Japanese audiences would like. It also sold very well indeed.
It's possible the vote was fixed but then who knows?
Everything else on the top ten makes sense that they should be there, though, and I'm very pleased to see Apollon at number 10 which I never though would happen. I'm kind of surprised Psycho Pass has ranked so highly, though - in fact, higher than SAO!
Joe Molotov
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Tari Tari at #1 is pretty lol, but the greater crime is Kill Me Babby beating out Yuru Yuri S2 and Hidamari Sketch x Honeycomb, that's just sick.
You can see all votes in the thread itself. Tari Tari winning was extremely controversial and pretty visible as a rigged vote. There were certainly real people voting for it too, but after a certain point when it looked like GuP was going to be a clear winner, every vote or every other vote started to have Tari Tari at #1 with random stuff for the other four slots. A clear sign of vote rigging.
Pretty funny how what 2ch seems to like doesn't particularly represent what actually sells.
It is written. Nevertheless I need more Horo.
I know this feel. I know it really well.
Theonik
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Tari Tari rigged!
You can look at TV ratings to sort of extrapolate some numbers but basically the ones that actually buy the shows are a very small fraction of the anime watching public. That's part of the reason why anime disks are so expensive.
gashikunFLCL
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You can see all votes in the thread itself. Tari Tari winning was extremely controversial and pretty visible as a rigged vote. There were certainly real people voting for it too, but after a certain point when it looked like GuP was going to be a clear winner, every vote or every other vote started to have Tari Tari at #1 with random stuff for the other four slots. A clear sign of vote rigging.
Ah, okay, I didn't read the original thread obviously. That sounds pretty much like a fixed vote then
Ah, okay, I didn't read the original thread obviously. That sounds pretty much like a fixed vote then
It's the same thread. You just have to click on "display all" in the link. Then run a search for "tari" in Chrome, and look at the distribution of the highlighted results on the scroll bar.
And part of the reason why only a very small fraction of the anime watching public buys anime is because the discs are so expensive! Gotta love the cycle.
I like it. Good work Shaft.
Hellsing321
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Space Bros was 31. I just posted the top 30.
Pretty good.
I like the OP, but I'm not sure if I want to watch a 4 episodes series about the worst girl
Crab-reign ends here.
Chet Rippo
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You can see all votes in the thread itself. Tari Tari winning was extremely controversial and pretty visible as a rigged vote. There were certainly real people voting for it too, but after a certain point when it looked like GuP was going to be a clear winner, every vote or every other vote started to have Tari Tari at #1 with random stuff for the other four slots. A clear sign of vote rigging.
Well, at least GuP is at number 2.
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