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PAL Charts - Week 52 - Wii for art thoU?

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Clay Davis

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Ubisoft end the year on a high as ‘Far Cry 3’ (-5%) claims No1 following continued price promotion, pushing Call of Duty: Black Ops II’ (-48%) down to No3.

It’s the publisher’s first No1 in the last week of the year since the original Assassin’s Creed topped the chart back in W52 2007. Ubisoft also lay claim to the most Top 10 charting titles this week with 3 thanks to ‘Just Dance 4’ (-53%) and ‘Assassin’s Creed III’ (-34%) both only slipping one place, to No6 and No8 respectively. ‘FIFA 13’ (+1%) climbs 2 places to No2 with its highest ever weekly sales outside of the first 3 weeks. ‘Hitman Absolution’ (-40%) falls one place to No4 ahead of ‘Need for Speed: Most Wanted’ (-13%) which is up one place to No5. ‘Halo 4’ (-24%) finishes at No7, but Microsoft have another Top 10 title this week thanks to retailer promotion on ‘Forza Horizon’ (+30%) which helps it race from No21 to No10.
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UK

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And here's the split, courtesy of The Guardian.

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Irish Software

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Moonstone said:
German charts 2012

1. "FIFA 13" - Playstation 3 (500k +) (award on 05.11.)
2. "Diablo III" - PC
3. "Call Of Duty: Black Ops II" - Playstation 3
4. "Assassin's Creed III" - Playstation 3
5. "New Super Mario Bros. 2" - 3DS (200k +)
6. "Guild Wars 2" - PC
7. "Just Dance 4" - Wii
8. "FIFA 13" - Xbox 360
9. "World Of WarCraft: Mists Of Pandaria" - PC
10."Landwirtschafts-Simulator 2013" - PC (100k +)

No Vita or WiiU titles in top 100.

Numbers added from biu sale awards.

source: media control GfK
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Twister Flipper said:
Sweden

01./07. [WII] Just Dance 4
02./10. [360] Halo 4
03./03. [PS3] FIFA 13
04./02. [WII] Just Dance 4
05./06. [360] FIFA 13
06./RE. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 Academy Edition
07./09. [PS3] Call of Duty Black Ops 2
08./14. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2
09./11. [PS3] NHL 13
10./RE. [PC] Sims 3 Seasons
11./05. [WII] Skylander Giants Starter Pack
12./18. [360] Call of Duty Black Ops 2
13./08. [PS3] Lego Lord of the Rings
14./04. [360] Assassin's Creed 3
15./13. [PC] World of Warcraft Game Card
16./01. [PS3] Assassin's Creed 3
17./17. [PS3] Far Cry 3
18./15. [360] Lego Lord of the Rings
19./16. [360] NHL 13
20./12. [WII] Lego Lord of the Rings

Norway

01./01. [PS3] FIFA 13
02./02. [PS3] Call of Duty Black Ops 2
03./05. [PS3] Far Cry 3
04./04. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2
05./10. [PS3] PlayStation Network Voucher 200
06./10. [PS3] Need for Speed Most Wanted
07./06. [PS3] Lego Lord of the Rings
08./19. [PS3] Assassin's Creed 3
09./11. [360] Far Cry 3
10./16. [360] Halo 4
11./17. [PC] Football Manager 2013
12./13. [WII] Just Dance 4
13./08. [PS3] Skylanders Giants Starter Pack
14./09. [WII] Skylanders Giants Starter Pack
15./07. [PS3] Assassin's Creed 3
16./14. [360] FIFA 13
17./18. [WIU] New Super Mario Bros. U
18./20. [PS3] Disney Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two
19./RE. [PS3] Live Card 400
20./15. [WII] Disney Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two

Finland

01./01. [PS3] Singstar Suomihuiput
02./02. [PS3] NHL 13
03./03. [PS3] Call of Duty Black Ops 2
04./04. [PS3] Need for Speed Most Wanted
05./05. [PS3] Angry Birds Trilogy
06./07. [PS3] Book of Spells
07./06. [PC] Angry Birds Star Wars
08./15. [PS3] Sports Champion 2
09./19. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 Academy Ediiton
10./12. [PS3] Ratchet & Clank QForce
11./RE. [PS3] PlayStation Network Card 20 Euro
12./16. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2
13./13. [360] NHL 13
14./11. [PS3] FIFA 13
15./10. [PS3] Assassin's Creed 3
16./RE. [360] Halo 4
17./09. [PS3] Lego Lord of the Rings
18./14. [PS3] Far Cry 3
19./08. [PS3] Singstar Suomihuiput + Langattomat Mikit
20./20. [360] Angry Birds Trilogy

Denmark

01./01. [PS3] FIFA 13
02./02. [WII] Just Dance 4
03./05. [PS3] Call of Duty Black Ops 2
04./04. [WII] Just Dance 4
05./06. [PS3] Assassin's Creed 3
06./08. [PS3] Far Cry 3
07./03. [WII] Skylanders Giants Starter Pack
08./09. [PS3] Need for Speed Most Wanted
09./11. [PS3] Lego Lord of the Rings
10./14. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2
11./07. [PS3] Skylanders Giants Starter Pack
12./12. [PC] Football Manager 2013
13./13. [360] Far Cry 3
14./RE. [PS3] Hitman Absolution
15./15. [PC] Assassin's Creed 3
16./10. [PS3] Assassin's Creed 3
17./19. [PC] Call of Duty Black Ops 2
18./RE. [PC] World of Warcraft Game Card
19./20. [PC] World of Warcraft Mists of Pandaria
20./17. [PS3] FIFA 13 Bonus Edition


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AdventureRacing

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Halo 4 continues to show great legs. I'm not sure how this compares to other games in the series but halo 4 seems to just keep on chugging.

Also damn at 360 software sales. Top 5 are all 360 and the chart is littered with 360 software.
 
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Gianni Merryman

Member
May I object to OP's title?

Atm we have only UK charts, whereas the title suggests that the sentence hinting at Wii U's underwhelming sales is referring to ALL PAL charts, that's just speculation.
 
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jonno394

Member
Who'd have thought that a console with no *pbvious* improvement over two much cheaper devices with much larger and critically better game catalogues would fail to catch fire straight away......it's still far to early to judge anything as a failure, barring the following statement:

"The Wii U launch in the UK was an abysmal failure"

SmokeyDave seems to be enjoying this failing far too much, oh wait, it's just pay back for when everyone was gloating over the vitas performance ;)
 
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wsippel

Banned
Fun fact: I've seen more Wii U ads on German television in the last two days than in November and December combined.
 
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Pie and Beans

Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
ElTopo said:
Those Wii U sales...

Heads will roll.
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Not UK heads though. Who'd have thought not having a reasonably sized European marketing and PR arm would lead to disaster! Nintendo's penny pinching ways in barely ever re-investing in the only industry it exists in was always distasteful to watch, but now its finally come to bite them in the arse bigtime.
 
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99%

Member
Im suprised Just Dance 4 is doing so good. It's amazing how well this franchise is still selling to whats a casual crowd. Ive had fun with it too one drunk evening.

It's the COD of dance games.
 
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Gianni Merryman

Member
SmokyDave said:
Who knows, we may see some re-entries in the German Top 100!
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Jokes aside, the OP has been written based only upon UK and Ireland charts so it's not accurate, besides the title is likely going to be click-baiting for a lot of users coming here just to mock at Wii U's poor sales, hence derailing the whole discussion to "Nintendo is doomed" level though we have not any numbers to know how Wii U's performing in PAL territories on the whole.

@Clay Davis, nothing personal of course on my part, I am not calling you out but I hope you see my point.
 
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Psychotext

Member
Gianni Merryman said:
though we have not any numbers to know how Wii U's performing in PAL territories on the whole.
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The last few weeks of charts gives us a pretty good indication. You'll be waiting a long time for actual numbers though (I guess the next set of Nintendo briefing figures will cover it).
 
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Phonomezer

Banned
Wii U and Vita aren't doing well at all in the UK. They're like Edward V of England and Richard of Shrewsbury, the princes sent to the Tower of London to die, only to be found under the stairs 2 years later.
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Deacan

9/10 NeoGAFfers don't understand statistics. The other 3/10 don't care.
99% said:
Im suprised Just Dance 4 is doing so good. It's amazing how well this franchise is still selling to whats a casual crowd. Ive had fun with it too one drunk evening.

It's the COD of dance games.
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Ubisoft also price the game very competitively at around £20-£25 at release.
 
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Pie and Beans

Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
The irony being of course Vita definitely saw a bump this Christmas while the festive season seemingly meant very little to anyone wanting Nintendo's newest box and Mario game under the tree. If you're not selling well in December, you're living in Fuck City.
 
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Clay Davis

Member
Gianni Merryman said:
Jokes aside, the OP has been written based only upon UK and Ireland charts so it's not accurate, besides the title is likely going to be click-baiting for a lot of users coming here just to mock at Wii U's poor sales, hence derailing the whole discussion to "Nintendo is doomed" level though we have not any numbers to know how Wii U's performing in PAL territories on the whole.

@Clay Davis, nothing personal of course on my part, I am not calling you out but I hope you see my point.
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this is a fair point, but I feel the past few weeks of charts were enough to give an indication of how sales probably were over the entire region. if it is better than expected in most regions, I will pm a mod straight away to change the title.

the title wasn't intended to be a bait title, it was only meant to be some fun word play. baiting would have been something along the lines of PAL Charts - Week 52 - Wii U Bomba or something similarly trashy.

I apologise if anyone feels the title is baiting. it wasn't my intent when I came up with it.
 
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wsippel

Banned
Pie and Beans said:
Not UK heads though. Who'd have thought not having a reasonably sized European marketing and PR arm would lead to disaster! Nintendo's penny pinching ways in barely ever re-investing in the only industry it exists in was always distasteful to watch, but now its finally come to bite them in the arse bigtime.
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Nintendo had a few big marketing campaigns in the Christmas season - just not for Wii U. It was all 3DS, and there were a lot of 3DS ads and promotions. They're apparently ramping up Wii U marketing now. It's almost as if they planned it this way for some reason.
 
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Phonomezer

Banned
Pie and Beans said:
The irony being of course Vita definitely saw a bump this Christmas while the festive season seemingly meant very little to anyone wanting Nintendo's newest box and Mario game under the tree. If you're not selling well in December, you're living in Fuck City.
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I'm actually a little concerned about the performance of next-gen consoles if the Wii U and Vita are any indication. I'm expecting it to be a very slow burn initially.
 
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Gianni Merryman

Member
Psychotext said:
The last few weeks of charts gives us a pretty good indication. You'll be waiting a long time for actual numbers though (I guess the next set of Nintendo briefing figures will cover it).
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Actually December charts can tell us little until we have semi-official hardware numbers, since in the holiday season we've had a lot of new entries of huge IPs such as Black ops, Assassin's creed, Hitman, Halo, Fifa, Far cry etc. on consoles that by now have a solid userbase, so it's not a surprise that Mario is not charting, in fact it didn't chart in November NPD top 20 either, yet Wii U has had pretty decent launch sales there.

In a few words, atm we have not enough elements to back up any statement suggesting that Wii U is bombing or not, aside from the little we know as a fact(UK and France) we can only speculate.
 
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Captain Smoker

Member
wsippel said:
Nintendo had a few big marketing campaigns in the Christmas season - just not for Wii U. It was all 3DS, and there were a lot of 3DS ads and promotions. They're apparently ramping up Wii U marketing now. It's almost as if they planned it this way for some reason.
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I'm still searching for the source, but they said, that the 3DS marketing has a higher priority over christmas.
 
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Mael

Member
Clay Davis said:
And here's the split, courtesy of The Guardian.

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Wii is holding quite alright actually and even worse Sonic racing is either pulling shitty numbers or the WiiU version is doing awesome.

Captain Smoker said:
I'm still searching for the source, but they said, that the 3DS marketing has a higher priority over christmas.
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that's perfectly normal, their DS business was humonguous compared to their Wii business (Europe was DS biggest territory after all).
1rst thing 1rst was to salvage the 3DS at all cost, WiiU be damned.
 
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Takao

Banned
99% said:
Im suprised Just Dance 4 is doing so good. It's amazing how well this franchise is still selling to whats a casual crowd. Ive had fun with it too one drunk evening.

It's the COD of dance games.
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It's a fad game like Zumba fitness, and the Guitar Heroes (or DDRs if you want to go back even further) of the world. The only difference between Just Dance and DDR/Guitar Hero is that Just Dance doesn't require bulky peripherals for a game you'll only play when having friends over. That kind of ensures sales won't fall off the face of the earth between entries.
 
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Captain Smoker

Member
wsippel said:
Nintendo had a few big marketing campaigns in the Christmas season - just not for Wii U. It was all 3DS, and there were a lot of 3DS ads and promotions. They're apparently ramping up Wii U marketing now. It's almost as if they planned it this way for some reason.
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I found it:

(...)

GamesBeat: Are there any other things worth noting that we haven’t touched on?

Moffitt: Broadly, as we look forward to the holiday, we expect that we’ll have some shortages of Wii U. Nintendo’s number one priority this holiday is 3DS and 3DS XL. We’re seeing an ever-growing momentum in our handheld business. Nineteen months in, we’re still a million units ahead of the pace of DS at this point in its life. As you know, DS was the best-selling gaming system of all time, and so we’re pleased with that. We’re seeing great momentum from the 3DS XL launch in August.

(...)
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http://venturebeat.com/2012/11/11/n...ow-about-the-wii-u-launch-interview/view-all/
 
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Psychotext

Member
Gianni Merryman said:
In a few words, atm we have not enough elements to back up any statement suggesting that Wii U is bombing or not, aside from the little we know as a fact(UK and France) we can only speculate.
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Nintendoland bundle sales give us an indication of hardware sales. It's a fairly useful indication given that we have actual figures for some of the software sales in the chart.
 
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AdventureRacing

Member
Phonomezer said:
I'm actually a little concerned about the performance of next-gen consoles if the Wii U and Vita are any indication. I'm expecting it to be a very slow burn initially.
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There is no reason to worry at all. The wii U and vita didn't fail because of the lack of interest in next gen. They failed because they both launched at too high of a price and with a shitty software line-up and little promise of the same improving. They were also both launched when their predecessor was already dead in the water and their brand name was in the dumps in essence.

I don't think the 720 and PS4 are guaranteed to be huge successes for obvious reasons but unlike a lot of people i think they are going to come out of the gate very strongly.
 
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99%

Member
Deacan said:
Ubisoft also price the game very competitively at around £20-£25 at release.
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Didn't know that, smart. First one was full price I think right?

Takao said:
It's a fad game like Zumba fitness, and the Guitar Heroes (or DDRs if you want to go back even further) of the world. The only difference between Just Dance and DDR/Guitar Hero is that Just Dance doesn't require bulky peripherals for a game you'll only play when having friends over. That kind of ensures sales won't fall off the face of the earth between entries.
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I also think dancing together has more party value/more widely accepted then pretending to play songs which is pretty complex still for most.

But you're right about the bulky and expensive plastic though for Guiter Hero etc.
 
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user_nat

THE WORDS! They'll drift away without the _!
Gianni Merryman said:
Actually December charts can tell us little until we have semi-official hardware numbers, since in the holiday season we've had a lot of new entries of huge IPs such as Black ops, Assassin's creed, Hitman, Halo, Fifa, Far cry etc. on consoles that by now have a solid userbase, so it's not a surprise that Mario is not charting, in fact it didn't chart in November NPD top 20 either, yet Wii U has had pretty decent launch sales there.
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Since Vita NFS charted, the bottom of the charts are around 5k, shouldn't be that hard for Mario to chart.
(Vita NFS is 11% of total NFS, which is > Halo 4s 40k.)
 
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Bumhead

Banned
The outlook is pretty damn bad.

What numbers are those games down at the bottom doing? The likes of F1 Race Stars and 007 have got to be pulling low four-figures max, right?
 
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Gianni Merryman

Member
Clay Davis said:
I apologise if anyone feels the title is baiting. it wasn't my intent when I came up with it.
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I don't think your intention was to troll anyone or adding fuel to the flames, yet I am afraid that title will not help to set a fair discussion; by the way I the same applies to all hardware launches in general, indeed it's only after a few months that we can have a clear idea of what are the actual sales trends.
 
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Father_Brain

Banned
Mael said:
Wii is holding quite alright actually and even worse Sonic racing is either pulling shitty numbers or the WiiU version is doing awesome.
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According to certain hearsay sources, the Wii U version actually sold best in the US in November. All three versions bombed, though.
 
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