Father_Brain
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Mostly. I'm inclined to give them a tad of benefit of the doubt for the weeks leading up to their Q3 results, but I admit that's pretty irrational at this point.
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Media Create Sales: Week 1, 2013 (Dec 31 - Jan 06)
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Mostly. I'm inclined to give them a tad of benefit of the doubt for the weeks leading up to their Q3 results, but I admit that's pretty irrational at this point.
No, because this time they had something to announce. If they keep using that tired old mantra they might still fool us into thinking that they have titles coming. It's moronic. The casuals don't give a shit if Nintendo say "Zelda Wii U is coming in 2014, here's a trailer." but the enthusiast gamers are happy to go "Holy shit!! I'm gonna get me a Wii U and stare at it until 2014!".
Hype = good, so long as you deliver. So what if Zelda is a year or two away? As long as it comes, and in the mean time there are good games, people will be happy but it's nice to see bits and pieces from it as time goes on to keep the spirits up. I guess if they were knocking it out of the park with cool titles after cool titles it wouldn't need hype from a flagship game, but they're not so why not?
MikeE21286
Member
Panic Nintendo is the best Nintendo. Bring it on.
Wait for Space World.
dragonflys545
Member
I'm ready for those free Ambassador Wii U games.
There's a significant difference between those two.
I think it might be reasonable to say their announced first party line-up represents every notable retail title until at least like September, or perhaps even October.
You mean GameCube games?
MikeE21286
Member
Wind Waker yes please
Even Nintendo isn't short sighted enough to only release 3 first party games the entire year. And those 3 aren't even their heavy hitters.
I'm honestly surprised there hasn't been a Kirby 3DS announcement as of yet. It's basically Nintendo's resident first party handheld franchise, but they haven't pulled him out yet. If something for him isn't announced by the end of E3 (or even TGS...), I'll be wondering what HAL is doing; considering they aren't even working on Smash Bros. this time around to my knowledge.
shinra-bansho
Member
Was a drop for Wii U expected this week? I vaguely recall the idea floated that this being New Year's and kids having spending money it would hold or bump a bit and a drop would come in Week 2.
Yes, it's clearly all according to keikaku.
I´m sure they´re going to release something bigger at the end of the year, but that´s at least 10 month from now.
That's what I meant, really. I still think they'll be daft enough to leave things until Oct, doing what Mpl90 mentioned.
I wouldn't go that far but at least until June I don't expect anything else.
grimshawish
Banned
Yeah reasonable to say that. Theres always a chance of 'something' else near Pikmin but thats not a 'oh Nintendo is really doing this'; just something they could do.
Otherwise I think August is surely the date where we might see more.
Remember NSMB2 launched at the end of July and was only announced at E3.
electroplankton
Banned
They had a mainline Kirby for Wii and a spin-off for DS last year. Of course now they're working on a 3DS one!
Well, their first party schedule would look like this if it is as stands today:
Launch:
-Mario
-Nintendoland
Q1:
-Game & Wario
Q2:
-Pikmin
-Wii U Fit
Q3:
-Wonderful 101(?)
Q4:
-Presumably titles in this window would be announced at E3. 3D Mario and/or Mario Kart Wii U perhaps? They usually have at least one Mario title a year.
The unaccounted for games at that point would be Bayonetta 2, Monolith, and Smash 4, which I could conceivably see missing 2013.
How many games did Nintendo tend to release per year for the Wii?
Edit:
Zeer0id pointed out Lego City Undercover would also be at some point, presumably in one of the first three quarters.
Graphics Horse
Member
I think it would have been a big bump if the sales weren't sloping off in the other direction over the longer term.
v v lol again
Vita - 33,309
Well played!
Last year? I thought we were in 2013 now. =p
And then they could release Zelda, Metroid, 3D mario, Beyonetta 2, Monolith RPG, Donkey Kong, Mario Kart all at once around 2013 christmas.
ofcourse we know thats not gonna happen
Right, thanks.
Oh right, Lego is coming to Japan too. And this makes me think about the 3DS version too, that could be a Summer release: the perfect time to release a title like this, since Summer is usually a good time for portables.
I wonder if Zelda will come out this year. I don't think so, since it won't be a remake. Kirby seems more plausible. After that, I wonder how an F-Zero would fare... maybe it wouldn't be advisable with the 3D effect, lol. I think it's more suited to Wii U. A 2D metroid, or an entirely new IP wouldn't hurt.
For the west, if they localized things like Bravely Default, I think the outlook would be much better.
Speaking of 3DS obviously.
For the west, if they localized things like Bravely Default, I think the outlook would be much better.
Speaking of 3DS obviously.
haha missed opportunity for next week's first reply.
On topic, 3DS doing pretty great as expected. Wii U slightly lower than what I was expecting. Nice to see Vita having a bump in its sales, here's hoping it somehow doesn't fall down too much.
Vita - 33,309
jesus, first post nails it again, damn gaf.
The fact that it'd be a brand new Zelda is actually why I think it's pretty plausible to see it released this Holiday: Grezzo developed OoT 3D, and 2 years have passed since its release right now. Moreover, they were already working on it during SS's development IIRC, so why not this year?
grimshawish
Banned
Mario Kart is a strong bet for this year. Though if anything is to 'come forward' it'll be Mario Kart as its legs mean it'll carry to the holiday much like NSMB2. I would say MKU for Q2/Q3 if anything is released in there.
3D Mario? We'll see. This is where the 'two 3D consoles at once' stuff gets complex. Is 3D Land 2 this year? Or Mario Universe? They might launch two 2D games in one year, but I can't see two 3D ones.
I can see Mario Universe being first half of 2014 anyway, NSMBU will still be selling, the console is afterall coming from a userbase of zero.
Retro's game I could see 2013 seeing as their restructuring, which might indicate their positioning for where to go after their next release. Going with all this we could see the 'casual leg' games NSMBU/Mario Kart before Q4 with more 'hardcore' games around the Holiday as they argue benefit most from that release window.
Could always be another resurrection. Whether this is baseless gaf hype or something actually happening...we'll see.
Eh, I don't know, I can see at least Bayonetta making 2013. Like you said, Q4/holiday titles would likely be shown closer to E3.
That being said, they're stil going to face a horrible, horrible drought until then unless a miracle happens and they start announcing or shitting out games before then.
Holiday bump usually filters out by end of February or so. With Soul Sacrifice coming out around then, it may actually be until March for the system to get < 10K again.
They held back the announcement of a 4m selling game until 9 months before launch. How shortly would they announce a 200K selling game in advance?
They need to date known titles, and it'll give them an opportunity to announce a couple of new ones, which they said was their intention with Directs. "many major" titles? No. Some titles? Seems very reasonable.
Edit:
Thinking dates for some newly ported third-party titles is reasonable, to clarify. New Wii U games to go in the upcoming schedule, but just not 1st-party games.
Toriko's comparison: Monster Hunting v.s. Monster Collection RPG - 4th week
Famitsu
[PSP] Toriko: Gourmet Survival (Bandai Namco) - 7.709 / 113.267
[PSP] Toriko: Gourmet Survival! 2 <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.05} (¥5.230) - 6.238 / 74.862 (-32%)
[3DS] Toriko: Gourmet Monsters! <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.12.13} (¥5.800) - 15.296 / 94.324 (-6%)
Famitsu
[PSP] Toriko: Gourmet Survival (Bandai Namco) - 7.709 / 113.267
[PSP] Toriko: Gourmet Survival! 2 <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.05} (¥5.230) - 6.238 / 74.862 (-32%)
[3DS] Toriko: Gourmet Monsters! <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.12.13} (¥5.800) - 15.296 / 94.324 (-6%)
Thanks.
So the Wii U was actually 3 titles lower than the Wii's launch, or am I forgetting something?
Interesting, thank you.
electroplankton
Banned
3DS is clearly stealing PSP userbase.
Well, we have to be honest here
1)The genre is different: the two PSP titles were MH clones, while the 3DS title is more a DQM clone, so maybe it fits better the userbase so far
2)Holidays are surely helping its sales
But still, I was quite pessimistic about it before the release, it's doing surprisingly well.
shinra-bansho
Member
Presumably there's a difference in both development cost and time for the Wii U relative to the Wii.
I'd say also that with 3DS Nintendo started reducing its retail release concentrating their efforts with the "best" titles to release, while experiments / little new IPs are released through eShop. In the past, Pullblox, Fallblox, Harmoknight and other titles like these would have been retail titles.
Jaded Alyx
Member
This....is an interesting point.
The price looks to be the same. Anyway, maybe it will finally sell through!
the strong 3DS sales could actually benefit Wii U, depending on how Nintendo handles it. Because the 3DS has proven itself to be a successful platform for 3rd parties, Nintendo could shift their focus to Wii U. Perhaps a 70/30 split, with the 30% 3DS games having worldwide appeal, for example Zelda.
I don't necessarily expect this to happen though. Nintendo has investors to appease, so it'll be hard for them to not take the quicker route, releasing numerous games on 3DS and watching the money roll in.
I don't necessarily expect this to happen though. Nintendo has investors to appease, so it'll be hard for them to not take the quicker route, releasing numerous games on 3DS and watching the money roll in.