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VGleaks: Orbis Unveiled! [Updated]
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SneakyStephan
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Typical america is the world mindset.
Maybe these numbers look the way they do because the dollar tanked in value since then compared to other valutas.
I remember when the euro was introduced 1 euro was almost exactly 1 dollar (1.0x dollars)
2 Years ago a euro was worth 1.6 dollars, today even with the eu crisis bollox it's still 1.35 dollars.
Yen numbers probably are even more favorable compared to the weak dollar.
Reduce the ps2 number by 35 percent (ps2 launched shortly before the euro was introduced) and the comparison to today's value will be a lot closer.
For the wii you are looking at a 60 percent difference.
Again: Just because your valuta tanked in value at an abnormal rate doesn't mean the Yen or the euro or any of the other many valuta in the world did.
Inflation is obviously always there but not nearly this heavily over such a short timespan.
Personally I paid 525 euros equivalent (525 2001 euros, not counting your inflation crap) in franks for ps2 (lol eu prices) and only 150 euros for a gamecube (shows how meaningless the whole argument you guys are having is) around the same time.
Dreamcast also launched at 199 dollars in '99, not sure why you chose to leave it out.
Spongebob has been trolling both sides though.
How the hell did it get weaker where no last minute cuts have been rumored? You are making no sense at all.
Not to rain on the parade, but we still don't have all the paper specs on Durango. Hell, I'm not even certain the info on GPU max theoretical flops count, RAM size and bandwidth...etc is correct.
Overall Orbis is looking like a far better gaming machine.
I haven't trolled anyone.
I haven't trolled anyone.
H_Prestige
Banned
How big of a console are we looking at here? Something the size of a ps3 super slim?
In comparison to Orbis on paper.
Xbox360 - Yamcha
PS3 - Kuririn
WiiU - Tenshinhan
Durango - Vegeta
Orbis - Son Goku
PC - Broly
Manmademan
Member
no, proelite says that the GPU in Durango is slightly better at certain tasks. OVERALL (Ram, physics, graphics) Orbis is the better machine. It's not a huge gap, but it's there.
It was the best of times...a true golden age. These are our darkest days. We need a mighty rain to wash this shit away. #TravisBickle
No need to be rude.
thank you reliable and unbiased insider.
Have any last minute improvements to Orbis been revealed?
You're right, I'm not trying to be funny so why would I be?
PopcornMegaphone
Banned
people who spread lies should be banned, and thats it.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=43932120&postcount=1199
Custom hardware to try to get decent performance out of dog slow RAM.
XtremeXpider
Member
Lherre said "it is a monster" months ago, and he said Durango > Orbis.
I guess things have changed since then.
You two know this how exactly?
This insider info stuff is such a farce. I guess every system needs one or two BSAssassins just to provide laughs.
I laughed until I remembered my copy of Dance Central 2 suffered this very fate. In retrospect I should be thankful, the game is terrible.
There, Fixed.
Lion Heart
Banned
Fuck Kaz, fuck Naughty Dog, fuck GG, just show me what SSM has in store for us and I will have a blank cheque ready.
THE:MILKMAN
Member
That is your opinion. Leave that stuff for the mods.
Psychotext
Member
No, no, no. You are of course entitled to your opinion, it's just that your opinion is utterly wrong.
H_Prestige
Banned
Oh, let me try.
PS3 - Super Vegeta
360 - Super Trunks
Wii U - Ultra Trunks (stronger but slower)
Orbis - SSJ2 Majin Vegeta (extra CU's unlock his true potential)
Durango - SSJ2 Gohan (same tier as majin vegeta, but would lose in a fight)
His argument is that the tasks that can be done with these four dedicated CUs would have to be done with purely the GPU on Durango. Which takes away from Durango's overall rendering power.
Yamcha was a bit weaker to Kuririn but it was almost the same level.
So.. not canon and therefore irrelevant?
... i kid
No. Because Broly was powerful but at the same time dumb (which is imo what PC hardware essentialy is "brute force everything" and don't care about efficiency vide GTA4 or Crysis1)
You're being really dense on that one. The post is almost a year old, and he's relating what he heard. If you took rumors for facts he's not the one to blame.
Are most games GPU heavy or CPU heavy? Doesn't this perceived advantage depend on the games? Tech noob here..
So.. not canon and therefore irrelevant?
... i kid
sir, did anybody ever call you a genius ?
phosphor112
Banned
Please stop with the really bad comparisons, especially the Dragon Ball stuff. It's just so overdone.
Almost 3 months old.
The PS2 also did 1080i.
H_Prestige
Banned
Only three months old.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Here's why in a like for like scenario. Before this news:
12CU vs 18CU. This means PS4 is 50% more powerful on paper for 'plain' graphics work.
Now, in a game that utilizes PS4 the way it should be, and uses 4CUs on it for physics and other compute stuff, you'll have to use the same 4CUs on Xbox to match whatever PS4 game is doing, so you'll have:
8CUs vs 14CUs. The difference between the two is now 75% for graphics work, instead of 50%.
_illmatic_
Member
I still don't see how relative performance of the target specs changed compared to what they were eg. 3 weeks ago.
Don't do that. That call is not yours to make. And rumors by their inherent nature are neither true or false. They're rumors, and people that use them as gospel do so at their own discretion.
Pachterballs
Banned
If there's not a huge gap, then all te quibbling is pointless - that said Sony actually has a large 1st/2nd party base that is going to do incredible things with the system.
Suckerpunch
Gg
Naughty dog
Santa Monica
+ more
It should be good
Damn you Americans!
Sorry about that, altough i maintain my point. No need to be that aggressive over such a post.
SneakyStephan
Banned
I wonder, what happens when these things release, do the NDA's drop?
Maybe Lherre can finally tell us what happened then.
TheJollyCorner
Member
Virtual Boy = phosphor112