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[JoshHood]

The Wii U's first two months sales were equivilant to the amount the 360 and PS3 shipped during their first two months. Why do people keep on saying that it is doing badly? It's doing good, not amazing, but not bad by any sense of the word

When the 360 and PS3 launched, you had two options: release your game on PS2 etc, where it had to be SD and deal with less power, but have larger base, or release on PS3 etc, where you had that power, but less units.

With the Wii U, the options are release your HD, heavy requirement game on the PS3 and 360, with a large player base, or the exact same power on Wii U with no units out there.

Think it's clear why companies aren't developing for it. And if those numbers don't increase, and fast, companies will just move to next-gen without so much as a second glance at the Wii U. That's why them selling the same numbers is not good enough.

 

[Subtle]

Sincere. GAF has a fair few WiiU owners it seems that do not own PS3's and X360's to enjoy the slew of content released in these here months. Losing Rayman from the release calendar must feel a lot like the floor under them has just disappeared and the universe has become very very cold. That launch adoption price becomes harder and harder to swallow by the day for them no doubt.

And Nintendo fans with your impassioned "WON'T BUY/WILL BUY 2ND HAND AND SPIT ON IT" posts, this is exactly why another stigma exists amongst third parties on bringing their games to your systems. One imagined slight later and grudges become set in stone; sometimes its better to just not even try with you duders.

It doesn't seem right to single out Nintendo fans. Look at PS360 fanboys on Bayonetta 2.

 

[Darryl]

lol at this thread. 25 potential Rayman Legends purchasers are furious. Whatever is Ubisoft going to do!?

lol people on other boards are upset at it as well, miiverse is on fire with people being outraged

 

[Sweet Baby Roy]

I knew this was going to happen eventually, but I didn't expect a simultaneous multiplatform release. This is great news, I supported Origins day one and I'm glad to know I can do the same for Legends.

 

[Aquamarine]

Seriously, if this is real, I'm starting to feel really ashamed now to be a Nintendo fan (or at least I was) with an Nintendo executive reinventing the way people should troll Nintendo.

I mean, really, WTF?

What troubles me more is that Nintendo fanboys will probably do nothing to contest this man's position.

https://twitter.com/ReggieFilsNOA

 

[Hiltz]

Well he did say the WiiU versions of multiplats like AC3 are superior to the 360/PS3 versions so I don't know.

Okay, you got me there. He was stupid for making comments like that, but he likely didn't mean in terms of the game's technical performance, but rather because of exclusive features like off-tv play. Still, he was a fool for trying to impress people over a game that didn't have that much to offer on a next-gen console.

 

[Jon of the Wired]

Well, I'm thrilled by this news. I really enjoyed Rayman Origins and was disappointed that I wasn't going to be able to play Legends. Now, problem solved.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

https://twitter.com/ReggieFilsNOA

Died at Find Mii...jesus christ lol

 

[Boogybro]

Seriously, if this is real, I'm starting to feel really ashamed now to be a Nintendo fan (or at least I was) with an Nintendo executive reinventing the way people should troll Nintendo.

I mean, really, WTF?

What troubles me more is that Nintendo fanboys will probably do nothing to contest this man's position.

You'll be happy to hear that it's fake then.

 

[Sadist]

Some people are just embarassing themselves. Both sides. Crikey.

 

[TreasureHunterG]

https://twitter.com/ReggieFilsNOA

But seriously, if Reggie actually said this it I wouldn't doubt at all.

 

[Yawnier]

September is shaping up to be at least a decent month for gaming with this Rayman game, GTA V, and the new Killzone and it isn't even E3 yet.

People may not like me here for saying this, but the more people who get to buy and enjoy this game the better, especially if it ends up being even half as good as Rayman: Origins.

Which is probably in my top 10 games from this generation.

 

[Madouu]

lol people on other boards are upset at it as well, miiverse is on fire with people being outraged

Oh, I forgot about Miiverse, I'm going to check it right now. Should be some fun drawings at least.

September is shaping up to be at least a decent month for gaming with this Rayman game, GTA V, and the new Killzone and it isn't even E3 yet.

People may not like me here for saying this, but the more people who get to buy and enjoy this game the better, especially if it ends up being even half as good as Rayman: Origins.

Which is probably in my top 10 games from this generation.

Noone is arguing this, it's just that it's fucking sad for the people who really wanted to play it this February, my girlfriend will be extremely sad when she learns of the news. Probably a better move from Ubisoft from a business perspective, but it still sucks for a few consumers such as me and I only have the french company to blame for that. But well, life goes on!

 

[RobbieNick]

Hilarious

Didn't know that owning a PS3/360 made you a part of the 'dudebro crowd'

LOL I'll admit, I'm a bit embarrassed by that post. I just got up and found out the news.

Let that be a lesson. Never post angry.

 

[iavi]

Hopefully it'll hit PC too like Origins

 

[Outtrigger888]

Id honestly rather see ubisoft get the support they deserve so they continue to make quality games.

 

[Pie and Beans]

Delaying a finished game for any reason is fucking stupid. End of story.

It really is just business though. Half the marketing price but the same result, getting to please investors with "sold so many copies" headline while omitting the (across 3 platforms) qualifier.

Its not like these decisions were come to by some random Nintendo hating exec that woke up and pondered how he could best piss of Nintendo fans this month. Hell, even worse it sounds like the game was struggling to meet this release date anyway if our little Ubisoft birdie in this thread can be believed. Game will no doubt be a better one because of a delay. Miyamoto's rule and all that.

I hope those that feel slighted or whatever can get over it and support this game does come round. I definitely won't be picking up GTAV at launch because I know it doesnt need it, but a beautiful 2D platformer like Rayman surely does. If you want more of a game, you buy it at launch to show that support. If Rayman Legends sells the most on the WiiU platform, that will give Ubisoft raw data they can't ignore next time they have to make one of these decisions.

Business. Its ALWAYS business. Pays to remind yourselves of that every now and then.

 

[Effect]

I believe, that Ubisoft simply had delay for some reason. The only way to make any money in the fall with Rayman, would be to make it multi-platform. So properly Nintendo and Ubisoft made a deal, to make up for the release change, the marketing and the damage the change did to Nintendo. Otherwise the relationship between both companies would become horrible and it didn't look like this the last times.

Still, this is damaging the image of WiiU even more. The gaming press doesn't look like to stop beating the dead horse of the "big failing" of the WiiU. No matter if it is true or not. It gets them the clicks, they need.

If this is even remotely true I wonder what Ubisoft could have offered in return to make this back? Like said gaming sites and gaming "journalism" will jump on this as if some had dropped chum into shark invested waters. This will hurt the Wii U's image without a doubt at time where there is already doubt surrounding the system and there is a lack of high quality games.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

LOL I'll admit, I'm a bit embarrassed by that post. I just got up and found out the news.

Let that be a lesson. Never post angry.

So you were being serious?

Welp. I'm out.

 

[Malvingt2]

It really is just business though. Half the marketing, the same result, getting to please investors with "sold so many copies" headline while omitting the (across 3 platforms) qualifier.

Its not like these decisions were come to by some random Nintendo hating exec that woke up and pondered how he could best piss of Nintendo fans this month. Hell, even worse it sounds like the game was struggling to meet this release date anyway if our little Ubisoft birdie in this thread can be believed. Game will no doubt be a better one because of a delay. Miyamoto's rule and all that.

I hope those that feel slighted or whatever can get over it and support this game does come round. I definitely won't be picking up GTAV at launch because I know it doesnt need it, but a beautiful 2D platformer like Rayman surely does. If you want more of a game, you buy it at launch to show that support. If Rayman Legends sells the most on the WiiU platform, that will give Ubisoft raw data they can't ignore next time they have to make one of these decisions.

Business. Its ALWAYS business. Pays to remind yourselves of that every now and then.

So the game is going to sell more this Sept?

 

[Platinumstorm]

This is a pretty big deal to me. I thought if any game could sell the Wii U it would be Rayman Legends for its superior tablet function. I hope it doesn't compromise the tablet. I'm sad it's delayed.

I'm also worried this is going to take away the great Rayman Legends functionality with the Wii U; it was the only game I was interested in for the Wii U launch, not a joke.

 

[OctoWara289]

We shouldn't have to be petitioning; it's absurd that this is happening in the first place. Fuck it all. They're going to screw up their sales, and they know it already. You don't think they knew how pissed off Wii U owners would get. The petition won't change anything, unless they were really that dumb in the first place to not realize how much of a riot this would cause.

 

[Vampirolol]

How can you even think that's a real account. LOL

 

[Malvingt2]

I can't wait for the blame game when the WiiU version tank...

 

[thebaroness]

I want a game starring the Viking girl, she's way cooler than Rayman.

 

[Ken Masters]

By the time a petition gets enough signatures it will be September

 

[Smiles and Cries]

http://www.change.org/petitions/ubi...yman-legends-release-date-for-the-wii-u#share

Petition to Ubisoft keep the date!

this will be how many people still buys this on Wii U ubisoft

signed for the lulz

 

[Pie and Beans]

So the game is going to sell more this Sept?

Probably could have been a better month, like August, sure. But yes it will sell better across three platforms.

 

[Gravijah]

We shouldn't have to be petitioning; it's absurd that this is happening in the first place. Fuck it all. They're going to screw up their sales, and they know it already. You don't think they knew how pissed off Wii U owners would get. The petition won't change anything, unless they were really that dumb in the first place to not realize how much of a riot this would cause.

You people act like it's not possible that the Wii U version will be worked on in the coming 7 months.

 

[Tizoc]

I had a feeling it'd be multiplat down the line. I expect the same for Bayonetta 2 as well.
At any rate...I loled when I read this. No offense, to WiiU owners, but I'm really happy I'll be able to play this without needing to get a WiiU

 

[Wiz]

Holy shit. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there's only ONE full price game coming out for the Wii U in Feb. And it's Fist of the North Star: Ken's Rage 2.

Dayuummm. Might have to get one of the launch titles at a discount this month or else I'll starve.

 

[Disorientator]

 

[Steve Youngblood]

We shouldn't have to be petitioning; it's absurd that this is happening in the first place. Fuck it all. They're going to screw up their sales, and they know it already. You don't think they knew how pissed off Wii U owners would get. The petition won't change anything, unless they were really that dumb in the first place to not realize how much of a riot this would cause.

Let me preface this by establishing that companies are certainly capable of making erroneous decisions. With that out of the way, is your position really that they know this will have a detrimental impact on the sales of Rayman, but are doing it anyway because of... insert reason here?

 

[RobbieNick]

People may not like me here for saying this, but the more people who get to buy and enjoy this game the better, especially if it ends up being even half as good as Rayman: Origins.

Which is probably in my top 10 games from this generation.

There was nothing to stop them from making it multiplatform! Hell, I'm in support of that. But delaying the Wii U version when it is in all likely hood finished is just bad business and hurts your fanbase on that particular system. I'm never buying an Ubisoft game on WiiU again and am less likely to buy their products on other systems.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Miiverse is fucking amazing with this shit right here if you think GAF was bad lol

I am adding fuel to the fire with my own post on Miiverse... hope this becomes the new Miiverse Meme

 

[Fandangox]

Well at least we have that 0.30 cents F-Zero SNES VC release to fill the gap!

...Goddammit Nintendo.

 

[Kandinsky]

This is making me so interested about the third party partners news for Wii U Iwata teased during the last Direct.

Lol stop, just stop.

 

[Gravijah]

There was nothing to stop them from making it multiplatform! Hell, I'm in support of that. But delaying the Wii U version when it is in all likely hood finished is just bad business and hurts your fanbase on that particular system. I'm never buying an Ubisoft game on WiiU again and am less likely to buy their products on other systems.

So, even though you have no proof the Wii U version was ready, you're going to boycott all of their games because of... who knows why.

 

[Artemisia]

Am I to understand that this is a huge deal because it was Wii U's big game leading up into he 2nd half of the year? And now since it's been delayed there's no noteworthy release until fall?

 

[Malvingt2]

Miiverse is fucking amazing with this shit right here if you think GAF was bad lol

I am adding fuel to the fire with my own post on Miiverse... hope this becomes the new Miiverse Meme

I can't log in right now... It is on fire?

 

[Subtle]

Probably could have been a better month, like August, sure. But yes it will sell better across three platforms.

You sure? Origins bombed hard so it's not like there's a big audience for it on the PS3 or 360. Wii U has nothing coming out so Legends would have full attention. I think this was a bad move.

 

[StuBurns]

There was nothing to stop them from making it multiplatform! Hell, I'm in support of that. But delaying the Wii U version when it is in all likely hood finished is just bad business and hurts your fanbase on that particular system. I'm never buying an Ubisoft game on WiiU again and am less likely to buy their products on other systems.

No, it is not bad business.

Releasing later hurts SKU sales, and it increases marketing costs.

 

[Hiltz]

I had a feeling it'd be multiplat down the line. I expect the same for Bayonetta 2 as well.
At any rate...I loled when I read this. No offense, to WiiU owners, but I'm really happy I'll be able to play this without needing to get a WiiU

Bayonetta 2 is being published by Nintendo specifically because it was willing to fund the game's development. While Sega still owns the rights to the IP, Nintendo would be foolish to allow Sega to release a game on competitor platforms as part of their contract. There's not a lot of logic in allowing a game you funded to be put on other platforms. Hell, Nintendo wouldn't even work with Microsoft to get GoldenEye 64 put on VC if it meant it would also go to XBLA. Just pay off Sega to keep it as an exclusive.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

I can't log in right now... It is on fire?

hell yeah it is nuts lol

 

[Phoenician_Viking]

Oh, a fake one. Hahahah, still funny.

 

[Neuromancer]

Miiverse is fucking amazing with this shit right here if you think GAF was bad lol

I am adding fuel to the fire with my own post on Miiverse... hope this becomes the new Miiverse Meme

Need pix

 

[Malvingt2]

You sure? Origins bombed hard so it's not like there's a big audience for it on the PS3 or 360. Wii U has nothing coming out so Legends would have full attention. I think this was a bad move.

exactly...

 

[MrBS]

Hey Ubisoft, delaying Rayman six months doesn't make up for releasing Assassin's Creed III six months early.

 

[Stumpokapow]

You sure? Origins bombed hard so it's not like there's a big audience for it on the PS3 or 360. Wii U has nothing coming out so Legends would have full attention. I think this was a bad move.

If Origins bombed hard, wouldn't the better business plan have been to not make Rayman Legends at all?

 

[Anth0ny]

didnt think it would stay wii u exclusive for a second.

the delay definitely sucks, though.