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[infinityBCRT]

Wow, now that you mention it it seems so obvious. Would that be functional though? What about people put their consoles vertical? Won't that mess up the cameras?

That would be completely unusable in many situations, so I doubt it.

I don't think it's the camera. That would be a very large stereo base... and I don't think it would be wise to have it included in the console, both for the developers and the gamer : you would want to be able to place it freely without having to face the main hardware.

Its a devkit. The fact is theres a big piece of glass with something that looks like a lens on either side of that devkit. Doesn't mean that it will be built into the system in the final version though.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Like the new sticks.

 

[Diablo Rosso]

Now that all controllers are starting to change and differ from each other, how easy is it for developers to create multi platform games? I mean, the Wii U doesn't get some games, because of the unconventional controller. Even though this might not be the real reason, it is the reason they are giving us. Could this mean that third party exclusive games could make a big comeback next gen, since developers are apparently only willing to invest in one controller method?

The Gamepad isn't the reason the Wii U doesn't get multiplatform games.

 

[QP3]

What the heck is that?

And to the people saying that they want a pic of me using a Dualshock controller... nope. Why should I do that? If you don't believe that it sometimes happens to me (thumbs bumping together) then that's fine. Don't really care.

Another poster in this thread (and other people outside of here) feel the same way as me; not trying to bash.

Slightly off top, but my brothers friend (this is way back) used to play SNES with his thumbgs underneath the controllers, and used his remaining four fingers for the face buttons and d pad.

 

[KillerTravis]

A built-in speaker/mic on a PlayStation controller will get better online multiplayer/social use than on any Nintendo console, at least.

Let the wars... begin!

 

[panty]

It begins...

This is....terrible.

If this is final, I don't know what I am going to do.

Do you know what a prototype means?

 

[flyinpiranha]

Asymmetrical is neither superior nor industry standard.

People usually claim the Wavebird as the "best controller ever" and it's closer to the 360 pad than a DS.

 

[chiablo]

or their controller will be only kinect.

I'm anticipating that they go Kinect only. They'll drag Reggie Fils-Aime on stage at gunpoint just to say "my body is ready" and Steve Balmer will teabag him.

 

[Treechopper]

They wouldn't be on the console itself in the final version. The functionality would be the same thing as Playstation Eye, Kinect. etc.

Ah, ok. Got ahead of myself there.

 

[B.O.O.M]

Nintendid.



Anything you want that doesn't involve swinging it like a sports implement It also replaces the user I/D lights and will give each player a different colour.



Maybe it can be directional-ish.

oh man I completely forgot about the changing colors controller rumor. This could be that indeed

Is that a headset jack at the bottom of the controller?

Sure looks like it

 

[Erasus]

I like the look on that devkit! PS3 one looked like an old fat VCR. This looks a bit more FUTURE!

 

[Uno Venova]

People usually claim the Wavebird as the "best controller ever" and it's closer to the 360 pad than a DS.

I..don't know how that means it's the industry standard.

 

[Pikma]

I'm aware it's just a prototype but... kill that controller, with fire, it's horrible!

 

[onQ123]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this (or at least the pages I have read haven't mentioned this)... the dual camera is in plain sight on that pic

Look at the big black rectangles on the left and right sides of the devkit. What else could it be?

I been saying it my last few posts in this thread

 

[Visualante2]

 

[Johnny Cage In The Shower]

Let's not pretend using touchpad on the laptop wasn't some torturous experience for everyone and was exactly the reason mini-mouse was created.

Oh I give you that, for sure, I be the first to tell you that I never touch the touch-pad on my laptop ( I use a mouse) But why does the touch pad on the laptop suck exactly? does it suck for simple browser gestures, or does it suck trying to use the tip of your index finger to move a cursor around your screen?

Well if it's for the latter, I doubt you'll be using the touch pad on this thing as a mouse to move around a tiny cursor... I don't own a macbook (air ) or whatever, but if you ever played with the touchpad on those things (gestures to navigate webpages and desktop) it's actually very neat, and easy to use.

I am guessing it will make more sense for that type of navigation.

 

[Perkel]

In shame at my fellow gamers I already hang my head in shame sir. Will you not see my point of view? I have clearly thought too much of you fine fellows of Gaf for not being able to see what it is that lies beneath the surface of this game they are playing with you. No, mock me if you will fellow gamers but remember this moment you will.

 

[doemaaan]

Woah! I just realized there's a giant blue light on top on the controller .

 

[Alx]

Its a devkit. The fact is theres a big piece of glass with something that looks like a lens on either side of that devkit. Doesn't mean that it will be built into the system in the final version though.

But even for a devkit, why would you add such a limitation to developers ? They'll also need to experiment their game in good conditions.
Anyway it would require additional effort to include the cameras inside the kit, instead of hooking a prototype to it. Why would Sony bother to do it, if it won't be in the final design ?

 

[Pistolero]

If this is final, I don't know what I am going to do.

The way I see it, you're left with two options : Either a) Shoot yourself (in the foot), or b) Buy another console...

 

[LastNac]

Seems like you have a greater problem if you hands are yellow...

and just outlines.

 

[statham]

yep, remove the sticks. wheres that other leak...

 

[MikeE21286]

Vita D-pad!!

My biggest excitement.

I'm assuming the form factor and aesthetic are not final.

 

[Liamario]

I've no problem with the 360 controller other than the Dpad. The asymmetrical layout is nice, but dual shock can be fixed by simply moving the sticks away from each ore a bit.
I don't see any real benefit of one over the other. I will say that asymmetry is directly related to the fact that the 360 sticks have concave nubs.

 

[Feature]

This is a fucking awesome controller. Sony has done it again and made the definite gaming controller of this millenium even better.

 

[infinityBCRT]

I been saying it my last few posts in this thread

Yup. It has to be it, right? I think people don't believe its the dual camera because it makes no sense that its built into the system. But considering its a devkit, it likely will change for the final hardware to be separate. Its probably just easier to stuff everything in one box for developers to use.

But even for a devkit, why would you add such a limitation to developers ? They'll also need to experiment their game in good conditions.
Anyway it would require additional effort to include the cameras inside the kit, instead of hooking a prototype to it. Why would Sony bother to do it, if it won't be in the final design ?

Its something they just slapped together to get out there for developers. Its the same reason that box won't be the final PS4 form factor either. Its obviously a custom made box, and not just a PC tower. So they had to put effort into making it even if its not for retail.

 

[StuBurns]

That's what's good about it, passed the first few months when Sony puts stupid shit in their games, no one will ever use that pad for anything in game. A victory for sanity is guaranteed.

 

[MrCow]

is there a nintendo wii dev kit standing on the PS4 dev kit?

do we know where the image is from? do we know any PS3 developers that worked on wii games that could work on PS4?

 

[Wishmaster92]

You can judge functionality though. Seeing a microphone, speaker, touch pad, and so on let's you know what we're in store for.

I agree. Guys keep in mind:

Ps3 Prototype Controller

Ps3 Controller

Ps4 Prototype Controller

 

[metalslimer]

Touchpads seems like it will be pretty useless. I do wish there was a small lcd there instead just for inventory management and such.

 

[la flama blanca]

You should be an industrial designer

 

[Dragon]

Let's not pretend using touchpad on the laptop wasn't some torturous experience for everyone and was exactly the reason mini-mouse was created.

The Apple trackpad is pretty awesome. Not sure what you're talking about!

 

[Orayn]

Are you also unable to press the start/select buttons on a DualShock because the sticks get in the way?

 

[Bgamer90]

Now that all controllers are starting to change and differ from each other, how easy is it for developers to create multi platform games? I mean, the Wii U doesn't get some games, because of the unconventional controller. Even though this might not be the real reason, it is the reason they are giving us. Could this mean that third party exclusive games could make a big comeback next gen, since developers are apparently only willing to invest in one controller method?

Good point. Should be interesting to see.

My guess is that there will be unique features in various versions of multiplatform games early on (first 2 years or so) but then everything will become pretty much the same.

 

[dukeoflegs]

Kojima is going to bring back Psycho Mantis again with this controller.
Psycho Mantis " Put your controller down"
You put the controller down.
Psycho Mantis will "listen" through the mic.
No one is talking, Psycho says "it is very silent where you are, speak up"
You say "what?"
He says "Do I need to repeat myself?"
You say "this is a stupid gimmick again!"
Psycho replies "You're stupid!!!"

 

[Pineconn]

This is why the Wii U GamePad sticks are at the top of the controller.

 

[Baconsammy]

Seems like you have a greater problem if you hands are yellow...

and just outlines.

And he appears to pick his nose with his thumbs. That's just weird.

 

[Orayn]

I agree. Guys keep in mind:

Ps3 Prototype Controller

Ps3 Controller

Ps4 Prototype Controller

You're right, they might get cold feet and make this one terrible instead of great just like they did with the boomerang. They had sound ergonomics and they threw them away.

 

[Nirolak]

As Mr. Bear Paw Hands, I am fine with the bulk.

 

[SolarPowered]

The Dualshock IS the industry standard, MS needs to get with the times like Nintendo did, and GTFO with superior pad crap, thats like...your opinion ;-)

Dat sarcasm... at least I hope so lol.

 

[alr1ght]

Looks good to me.

 

[LastNac]

Kojima is going to bring back Psycho Mantis again with this controller.
Psycho Mantis " Put your controller down"
You put the controller down.
Psycho Mantis will "listen" through the mic.
No one is talking, Psycho says "it is very silent where you are, speak up"
You say "what?"
He says "Do I need to repeat myself?"
You say "this is a stupid gimmick again!"
Psycho replies "You're stupid!!!"

Dat A.I.

 

[Pachterballs]

Fuck yeah. Looks like the mockups. Lol

 

[Visualante2]

Are you also unable to press the start/select buttons on a DualShock because the sticks get in the way?

I never had to press the start button unless I was pausing the game. At which point I usually put down the controller so it didn't interfere with any stick usage.. It's pretty naive to think that this touch pad exists just to replace the start and select button, it's quite an expensive replacement don't you think?

 

[shoplifter]

Breakapart controller? I'll just use my

 

[Perkel]

Bullshit. It is the same place as Start and Select which are easily achievable.

 

[Oppo]

Not anymore it isn't. Them days are long gone.

In a way, you are right.

But in another, more accurate way, you are wrong.

http://cdn.overclock.net/0/05/050f5d80_playstation_negcon_controller_large.jpeg

Best Wipeout controller ever.

 

[Wolves Evolve]

People are STILL saying this is too small when it's clearly been widened in the middle?

I have massive (Massive!) hands and the DS has never been a problem. Neither will this.

 

[Sky Chief]

It would be hilariously awesome if Microsoft went with symmetrical sticks for Durango.

I feel like asymmetrical would be really weird if it was break apart.

 

[Orayn]

I never had to press the start button unless I was pausing the game. At which point I usually put down the controller. It's pretty naive to think that this touch pad exists just to replace the start and select button, it's quite an expensive replacement don't you think?

I was just referring to the position of those buttons, and no, a capacitive touchpad isn't very expensive at all.