Pffft, maybe done by western devs yeah. Japan is the new king of doing western aesthetics
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Capcom's DEEP DOWN was the most impressive thing shown @ PS4 event
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Pffft, maybe done by western devs yeah. Japan is the new king of doing western aesthetics
Aika'svyse
Banned
I thought it was a mix of CGI and ingame. That kinda left me less impressed with it.
Rygar 8 Bit
Jaguar 64-bit
hype for me exploded out the roof from that reveal god hope they show more of it at e3
REMEMBER CITADEL
Banned
The part where he's running with the camera spinning around him before the monster bursts through the column had the slight jankiness of real gameplay.
It was gameplay. Half of it was a big QTE though.
Ozzykamikaze
Member
It looks like he tossed that torch from 8 inches away.
Easily the most impressive. Capcom is one of the top publishers in the world. I expect great things from them, SQEX, and Konami on next gen systems; especially graphically.
The other big players in Japan are still quiet: Namco, Tecmo, Sega. They can all make custom engines and fantastic graphics so I'm anxious to see what they pull off.
The other big players in Japan are still quiet: Namco, Tecmo, Sega. They can all make custom engines and fantastic graphics so I'm anxious to see what they pull off.
EagleBurnn
Banned
If this was an exclusive, they would have said so wouldn't they?
TUROK
Member
Maybe, but look at the character fidelity, the shadowing (pay attention to the shadows on the breastplate as the dude puts the torch in his other hand), and the quality of the particles (look at the way the fire breath ricochets off the rock structure).
This is some pretty amazing stuff.
BadAss2961
Member
You don't have to peg down Killzone to give Deep Down credit. Both games look incredible.
For the longest, people always seemed threatened by Killzone hype and have to discredit it for some reason.
For the longest, people always seemed threatened by Killzone hype and have to discredit it for some reason.
Pffft, maybe done by western devs yeah. Japan is the new king of doing western aesthetics
CD Projekt disagrees! But I also love Dark Souls' art direction/what I saw of DD, so let's call it a tie.
Edit: Bad art? Wat
I appreciate the Witcher franchise, but their art is kinda bad in my opinion :b
Certainly not as focused and inspired as the Souls franchise or even DD.
nelsonroyale
Member
I honestly think people are setting themselves up for disappointment if they think that is representative. It wasnt the graphics which set it apart, although the choice of aesthetic is a good one, it is that combined with the animations. I reckon this is as much a tech demo as Agni Philosophy.
Nothing impossible about that statement. It was like Agni Philosophy, a tech demo running with canned animations.
Dead Rising and Lost Planet looked too good to be true when they were first shown for the 360, but they were true.
That's about everything shown.
Wolves Evolve
Member
I am considering this a target render.
There was one running animation with a circular camera shot before the dragon crashes into the pillar. THAT looked like real-time, but it looks very different to the close ups.
Until Capcom say what's up, it's a target render.
There was one running animation with a circular camera shot before the dragon crashes into the pillar. THAT looked like real-time, but it looks very different to the close ups.
Until Capcom say what's up, it's a target render.
Watch_Dogs' demo felt a lot more plausible than the E3 showing, I think that's close to how the real game will play, now. We'll see, though.
I can't really get excited about it since it wasn't gameplay. The final game isn't going to look nearly as dynamic; hell, this was basically a cutscene with the camera panning behind the character a few times. And it's probably not going to look as good either, even if the trailer was realtime.
And I don't know if I like it how Capcom obviously goes heavily after Dark Souls. Even the latest Dragon's Dogma trailer was an indication of that.
And I don't know if I like it how Capcom obviously goes heavily after Dark Souls. Even the latest Dragon's Dogma trailer was an indication of that.
StoppedInTracks
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theSlacker
Member
I was always surprised at how little mt framework was used since it looked so good, and was able to run dmc4 at a constant 60 fps across both 360 and ps3.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
If this really is Dragons Dogma 2 Ill be beyond ecstatic!
Poimandres
Member
I just watched it in 1080p, and I'd say it's in engine for sure. No question about it. I'm honestly a little surprised people are in disbelief about that.
That doesn't necessarily mean the game will look this good, and it obviously wasn't gameplay.
That doesn't necessarily mean the game will look this good, and it obviously wasn't gameplay.
nelsonroyale
Member
Yeah, I saw that, that was only section I thought might represent how gameplay might appear. Same visuals, but animation and fluidity will not be.
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
In-engine. Possibly scripted or QTE. But I'm pretty sure that part where the dude passes the torch to you is a tiny piece of gameplay.
Watch the 1080p version.
- Depth of field "stepping" (0:26)
- Flickering bloom artifacts (0:43)
- Shadow aliasing (0:52)
Watch the 1080p version.
- Depth of field "stepping" (0:26)
- Flickering bloom artifacts (0:43)
- Shadow aliasing (0:52)
CaptNfantasy
Banned
Now that theyve mastered the art of more polygons and better lighting, maybe they will attempt to create characters, monsters, and environments that arent the most generic shit ive ever seen.
I pity those who think in game will look like this.
I pity those who think in game will look like this.
I think they nailed a midground between realism and stylization. A strength the Japanese devs have always had.
StoppedInTracks
Member
Knights and Dragons can't look much different than... Knights and Dragons you know. What did you expect them to look like? Pirates? Serious question.
Misterinenja
Member
People i don't know but..
Now add the PS4 power, the ram, the modern shaders...
This is the kind of leap you should expect. Maybe at first there will be some slight downgrading but just update the model and shader quality over that and what else are you expecting...
The only thing that i can't really believe is the fire effect.
BUT, you know, first time we saw some water shader in Star Fox adventure, it was pretty magic.
I don't know when people convinced themselves that the next gen leap would be so small..
Now add the PS4 power, the ram, the modern shaders...
This is the kind of leap you should expect. Maybe at first there will be some slight downgrading but just update the model and shader quality over that and what else are you expecting...
The only thing that i can't really believe is the fire effect.
BUT, you know, first time we saw some water shader in Star Fox adventure, it was pretty magic.
I don't know when people convinced themselves that the next gen leap would be so small..
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
It's unlikely you've ever seen this many polygons before. Graphical fidelity such as this has already been achieved on PC.
Take a deep breath, and prepare yourself for next gen.
Except it'll probably play like Dragon's Dogma or Monster Hunter, so you have kind of played it already.
Samurai_Heart
Member
I think it's more to do with this gen is an upgrade of HD; not that massive jump we saw going from SD to HD. So everyone knew the graphics won't be incredibly different tbh.
Oh and if it's basically Dragon's Dogma, please make it somehow we can create an Avatar that isn't odd looking lol.
People i don't know but..
Now add the PS4 power, the ram, the modern shaders...
This is the kind of leap you should expect. Maybe at first there will be some slight downgrading but just update the model and shader quality over that and what else are you expecting...
The only thing that i can't really believe is the fire effect.
BUT, you know, first time we saw some water shader in Star Fox adventure, it was pretty magic.
I don't know when people convinced themselves that the next gen leap would be so small..
Come on man... how many devs in the world can match SSM's talent, resources and experience? How many devs even target a similar highly scripted experience like the GoW games?
You can't just expect all devs to magically being able to whip out tons of grade A assets, with "next-gen power".
I've been saying this for a long time now. We live at a time in gaming, where the assets are the bottleneck. Not tech.
Misterinenja
Member
They're going after Dark Souls crowd. Say what you say about Dragon's Dogma.
It's the best game of the generation and they know it. Capcom wishes they could put out a game like that.
Just look at dat fake UI.
It's the best game of the generation and they know it. Capcom wishes they could put out a game like that.
Just look at dat fake UI.
I still can't believe that's in-engine, or running on something like PS4 hardware, so it's super impressive, but I'll wait to see something more on it because I don't want to be Killzowned.
That said, on the premise it IS real in some way, just like with Killzone, I would be saying 'wow'. Just a massive jump from last gen.
No, the tech is definitely a bottleneck, so far as PS360 gen is concerned. There is tons of shit devs still couldn't do, at least not at a stable framerate, with last gen tech.
That said, on the premise it IS real in some way, just like with Killzone, I would be saying 'wow'. Just a massive jump from last gen.
zoukka said:
No, the tech is definitely a bottleneck, so far as PS360 gen is concerned. There is tons of shit devs still couldn't do, at least not at a stable framerate, with last gen tech.
Always-honest
Banned
i doubted the interactivity.. so i can only hope the game will look like it.
The only "impossible" thing I see in it, is the fire effect imo. And of course the seamless animation.