Lagspike_exe
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I think that Kotaku's $429/$529 rumor may become reality. Along with a online subscription it could allow Sony to soak up the hardware BoM.
Wholesale price, but without Sony's specific bulk discount just a generic one.
Well if you read the thread, that's what op is basing his prices on.Sony doesn't buy items at retail prices, they will have a set contract and obviously bulk pricing.
Well if you read the thread, that's what op is basing his prices on.
I think that Kotaku's $429/$529 rumor may become reality. Along with a online subscription it could allow Sony to soak up the hardware BoM.
damn, not really interested in paying those prices tbh.If the $529 upper SKU price is real, that would mean with an extra controller @ $50, a game @ $60, and if I buy local with an 8% sales tax (Georgia state sales tax plus city/county sales tax), I would pay around $690 out the door. $640 on Amazon.
I think that Kotaku's $429/$529 rumor may become reality. Along with a online subscription it could allow Sony to soak up the hardware BoM.
That's my guess too. They'll do a 399/499Yep, I agree. I posted the same in a similar thread last night. $429 for ~200GB HD and $529 for a 500gb HD and the playstation kinect sensor or some other sort of pack-in, maybe a 6-month PS+ card.
So a couple of us at the bank have done a costing analysis this morning. I won't be able to give exact figures, as if we ever decide to release them publicly it will definitely blow my cover.
All figures in USD.
APU (CPU/GPU) - 85-90
8GB GDDR5 - 110-140
OS Chip (supposedly ARM based) - 12-18
Video encode/decode chip - 8-12
Blu-ray drive - 18-25
Hard drive - 38-50
I/O - 9-12
Wireless chip + antenna - 4
HDMI+HDCP - 11-15
Other - 25-35
Total - 320-401
These figures are preliminary, and do not include assembly costs, power costs, cooling or shipping as the final design has not been shown and can't be estimated at this time.
Please, please, please remember that this is based on the specification only and cost prices that we know, without a PS4 in the hand there will be mistakes.
The PS4 will not be cheap. I see it as a gamble, they go all-in. Either they sell cheap or they take a significant loss. Again. In my opinion, they're trying to kill the bee with the bazooka.
I did wonder a while ago - over a year, I think - if we'd get into a situation where one of MS and Sony decided to go full-on with hardware but sell it at a *massive* loss to them to try to get the machines out there. It'd be a risky situation but it could well bear dividends. Only thing is, in that situation I imagined it'd be MS who plumped for that strategy.
I think they'll price it at $450. $100 up from the Wii U is a totally valid price point.
I think they'll price it at $450. $100 up from the Wii U is a totally valid price point.
No, it will be $399 or $449. The $429 price point makes no sense whatsoever.
FWIW at the office everyone thinks $399 is locked from these specs, we figure Sony will eat $50-60 up front to get to $399 since that is just one accessory/online subscription and one game away from profitability which is not a big jump like PS3 which required 6 games and two accessories.
I think they'll price it at $450. $100 up from the Wii U is a totally valid price point.
Sony doesn't buy items at retail prices, they will have a set contract and obviously bulk pricing. I think it will be £359- £399 here in the UK.
i think with the PS4s specs and features the WiiU isn't worth 30 lessDo you think that the PS4's features and specification mean it's only worth £30 more than a Wii-U?
So a couple of us at the bank have done a costing analysis this morning. I won't be able to give exact figures, as if we ever decide to release them publicly it will definitely blow my cover.
All figures in USD.
APU (CPU/GPU) - 85-90
8GB GDDR5 - 110-140
OS Chip (supposedly ARM based) - 12-18
Video encode/decode chip - 8-12
Blu-ray drive - 18-25
Hard drive - 38-50
I/O - 9-12
Wireless chip + antenna - 4
HDMI+HDCP - 11-15
Other - 25-35
Total - 320-401
These figures are preliminary, and do not include assembly costs, power costs, cooling or shipping as the final design has not been shown and can't be estimated at this time.
Please, please, please remember that this is based on the specification only and cost prices that we know, without a PS4 in the hand there will be mistakes.
I am still standing by the $399 and $499 model.I cant see it at 400$ at all. 449-500$
IMO, those two will be integrated into the APU. I believe they only mentioned dedicated hardware, not necessarily that they are separate chips.
Keeping that stuff in the APU should allow for a simpler motherboard as well.
Around $400 seems reasonable then.
So a couple of us at the bank have done a costing analysis this morning. I won't be able to give exact figures, as if we ever decide to release them publicly it will definitely blow my cover.
All figures in USD.
APU (CPU/GPU) - 85-90
8GB GDDR5 - 110-140
OS Chip (supposedly ARM based) - 12-18
Video encode/decode chip - 8-12
Blu-ray drive - 18-25
Hard drive - 38-50
I/O - 9-12
Wireless chip + antenna - 4
HDMI+HDCP - 11-15
Other - 25-35
Total - 320-401
These figures are preliminary, and do not include assembly costs, power costs, cooling or shipping as the final design has not been shown and can't be estimated at this time.
Please, please, please remember that this is based on the specification only and cost prices that we know, without a PS4 in the hand there will be mistakes.
I think that Kotaku's $429/$529 rumor may become reality. Along with a online subscription it could allow Sony to soak up the hardware BoM.
Maybe, but there are advantages to keeping them off-die, you get a yield bonus on the APU and you get easier power gating for the low power mode they talked about. It will come at a motherboard complexity cost, but given that ARM chips are not very power hungry and video encode/decode hardware isn't either Sony would do well to keep them separate.