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Okay, TeamCG. Come own up to your foolishness. #trolljima

Is Joakim Mogren CG?


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Kaako

Felium Defensor
Just woke up and read the entire thread word by word. I freaking love you guys ahaha. I truly want it to be CG so my mind can be filled with fucks but I don't know man...
Regardless of CG or not, Kojima and team are definitely having a big ass field day with this one. Can't freaking wait for GDC!
 

Soriku

Junior Member
CG of videogame engines is impressive or that of Hollywood? There's a difference and a huge one at that.

Both. Someone post Versus XIII CGI GIFs from the 2011 trailer.

I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that this guy could be CG. But I could also be wrong...

Yeah right... i bet if nobody mentioned it was cg and it was somebody different you probably would have thought otherwise, especially with the blurry sd video they first released.

Hell no. I'd have noticed it immediately. It looks good but not perfect.
 
This thread holy shit, now I believe than in 6 years everytime someone notices an actor in front of a green screen they are going to stat seeing CGI because they forgot how things look. This is too funny.
 
I hear CG people can bite their elbows.

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Team CG.

If I'm wrong I will actually play a MGS game for the first time in over a decade.


I think I'm on #TeamHybrid
One "real" Joakim, one CGI. At GDC they reveal just how indistinguishable the two are.

Yeah I should clarify I'm on this division of Team CG as well. But it's still Team CG.
 

CookTrain

Member
What a splendid thread... That said, I just can't see where they'd pull this tech from given the FX arms race in Hollywood right now. TeamHybrid does compel me. I think if it is CG, it's only the last "!" shot, but there are no half measures in this game.

TeamReal!

... also TeamJensonButton
 

Epcott

Member
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That's pretty fucking incredible if that's CG.


Hmmmm...

When I look at the gifs, I notice the upper lip sticks ever so slightly to the lower lip when he opens his mouth due to moisture. That's some meticulous detail if it is CG.

I wanted to believe it was CG, but I don't think a detail like that would be in a game engine. Maybe one for a motion picture by ILM, but for a game, no.

Team Real for me.

Though, I'll be more than happy to eat a murder of crows if it is CG, and will await next gen on my hands and knees for its awesomeness.
 

dave is ok

aztek is ok
What if the studio is called Moby Dick because they finally caught the 'white whale' of game development and digital arts: photorealism??
 

kinggroin

Banned
Not CG. Like, not even close.

Unless, a videogame company can create better CG than every single company in the history of visual effects.

No.


In fact, I wish banbets were allowed again so I can make one.

The Audrey CG is probably the closest to real life, and even then, it causes you to raise an eyebrow.

What you saw in the trailer is about what I'd expect from the actual PS4 game. Maaaaybe a little better.
 

KarmaCow

Member
You act like they were lazy or something. Realistic eyes are probably the hardest thing for devs to get down. The industry has only been making any real progress there in the last few years.

If this is CG and they wanted to hide that fact, they could have fixed this supposed flaw because the video isn't some real time simulation. But they didn't.

So it's not really impossible and not a sign of it being CG.

or some next level hint to the fans to let them know it's CG
 
Both. Someone post Versus XIII CGI GIFs from the 2011 trailer.

I'm not following the FF games but you are talking about something that wasn't done with the game engine correct?

Because this thread claims FOX engine, the same game engine that will power the next MGS game has rendered this dude. Maybe not in real time, but in engine.
 

Apocryphon

Member
i think the "Moby Dick" name has more to do with the book than the film maker because there is a whale in the gameplay trailer (and the studio logo too)

No. You're underestimating Kojimas reverence for filmakers. Just as Snake was based on Kurt Russell's character in Escape From NY, Moby Dick studios is a reference to Melville. Melville was also a big influence on Mamoru Oshii the guy who directed Ghost in the Shell and Patlabor.
 
If it's not CG, and it isn't, I doubt they'd bring up the subject at further events. So unless someone asks them about it you'll be free to continuing believing any ridiculous shit you want.
 

gazele

Banned
If this is CG and they wanted to hide that fact, they could have fixed this supposed flaw because the video isn't some real time simulation. But they didn't.

So it's not really impossible and not a sign of it being CG.

or some next level hint to the fans to let them know it's CG

Or its CG and they put the flaws there to make it unlikely for someone to think its CG

Anyone notice in that first gif above how he blinks like 10 times with his eyes closed, super weird

Team Real Life (although I want to be wrong)
 

Dr Dogg

Member
Well this thread is absolutely mental.

Some where deep in his doom fortress Hideo is rubbing his hands with glee at the craziness he has created.
 

CookTrain

Member
Concerning the inaccurate shadow in the final shot. Notice how it travels over his cheek and down his neck. Joakim is holding a real iPad, leans backwards in faux-shock, reflects real spotlight upon himself a smidgeon.

Go TeamReal!
 
The cleaned up Twitter pic from the OP does make it look a lot more like CGI but what really bothesrs me is why he spends so much of the interview with his eyes closed!

Team Undecided.
 
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