Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
EAs response is nothing but pure hubris.
They got caught red handed.
They got caught red handed.
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SimCity modded so it can be played offline indefinitely + editing of highways
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What really irks me, is that when they're caught with their pants down from lying about "complex online calculations", they pretty much say "but you can give others gifts!! You couldn't do that without online!"
QuicheFontaine
Member
Really? Comment cheerfully withdrawn, then.
Damn 6.5 score on the GI scale is like a 1.5.
Gamestop magazine. The writers can only give a low score to a certain extent especially for a game that will sell. They only give the really low scores to games that have no chance of selling regardless of the scores.
stufte
Member
For instance, just the other night I logged in at work to try in vain to roll back a city I spent 4 hours on. Thought maybe if I tried from work, it would be different...
BolognaSoup
Member
Way too high for a game that is worse and less complete in almost every way than the version that came out ten years ago.
QuicheFontaine
Member
No Dice?
Edit: I clicked on that link, then realised what I was doing and immediately felt dirty for giving Polygon a click.
Urgh.
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Marty Chinn
Member
I play at work during lunch or right before I leave for the day. The 20 min wait before retrying to connect to a server seriously made that a pain though.
EmCeeGramr
Member
Someone creating an all residential slum city, currently at 930k pop: http://www.twitch.tv/curvygoonette/new
They found out that you can have criminals all over town housed in the towers, but as long as there's no commercial or industrial they don't do anything bad
edit: 950k
edit2: 960k, city is making a profit
edit3: 970k!
They found out that you can have criminals all over town housed in the towers, but as long as there's no commercial or industrial they don't do anything bad
edit: 950k
edit2: 960k, city is making a profit
edit3: 970k!
Hot Coldman
Banned
turns out sims are impervious to any bodily harm, physical assault is impossible
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
I wonder what the actual population is...
QuicheFontaine
Member
Hey, gotta be serverside my friend.
EmCeeGramr
Member
980k!
EDIT: 990k!
EDIT: 996k!
EDIT: 990k!
EDIT: 996k!
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
That GI score is slightly over the current metascore, sitting at 6.4 now.
EmCeeGramr
Member
and there, but for a moment, a million happy sims in an awful slum with no jobs
She went into one of the data tabs and it showed only 1300 unemployed people, I think.
Maybe they all commute to jobs in other people's cities -- without ALWAYS ONLINE they'd die of starvation!
EmCeeGramr
Member
yeah about those other cities
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Oh, btw. RPS reports both Maxis and EA PR are ignoring them at the moment.
That's the prize of proper reporting in videogame journalism.
Meanwhile, EAs head of worldwide communications just tweeted that they are deleting all threads about the offline mod because they love and support mods, but offline mode is a hack. He stated he was being '1000% transparent'.
That's the prize of proper reporting in videogame journalism.
Meanwhile, EAs head of worldwide communications just tweeted that they are deleting all threads about the offline mod because they love and support mods, but offline mode is a hack. He stated he was being '1000% transparent'.
ambientmystic
Member
Sounds about right. The others are playing ball to various degrees.
JakkuFurosu
Member
when will the lulz end in all this.
Deserves a thread of its own I think. Very important in context of games journalism and fraudulent publishers like EA
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Not to mention they removed cheetah... Which is not a multiplayer feature as a consequence of the always online nature of the game.
John Walker is the most hated game journalist in the industry.
I figured Tim Rogers would have taken that honor.
EA is gonna EA, and Maxis is beholden to them, so whatever. They own us nothing.
But what really irks me is that the gaming press isn't up in arms over EA blatantly lying to them and consumers alike. If that wasn't bad enough, they got the press to regurgitate those lies without any real second guessing or requests for proof.
I would have a lot more respect for game journalism as a whole if more writers were livid over this. They should be completely re-evaluating the way they parrot publisher/developer claims as fact.
Hopefully this will lead to another Aliens: Colonial Marines turning-point where outlets like Kotaku decided to change the way they publish previews to avoid embarrassment.
But what really irks me is that the gaming press isn't up in arms over EA blatantly lying to them and consumers alike. If that wasn't bad enough, they got the press to regurgitate those lies without any real second guessing or requests for proof.
I would have a lot more respect for game journalism as a whole if more writers were livid over this. They should be completely re-evaluating the way they parrot publisher/developer claims as fact.
Hopefully this will lead to another Aliens: Colonial Marines turning-point where outlets like Kotaku decided to change the way they publish previews to avoid embarrassment.
But as pointed out above, the ones that do kick off will be blacklisted and the spoils (previews, advanced copies, etc) will go to those that toe the line. Most people that play games, I'd wager, simply don't care about this behind the curtain chicanery. The one's that do probably aren't of a number to support a group of dedicated investigative types that have otherwise been cut off from the gaming inner circle.
probably sends updates to the server on each game event or hour. More events = more requests.
LazyGameReviewer uploaded his SimCity review and maaaaan EA/Maxis really fucked up if not even HE can recommend the game.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Feel free
Just check RPS for the info and the tweets.
I'm on mobile so I cant I'm afraid
Faster speed = faster saves = more server strain.
Well ya, I think he is the only one who called the always online DRM BAD, the rest of them just said it sucks. He seems like the only one, where his website actually is out there to protect consumers, and not the publishers or devs. Of course he is hated when all the other games media will beat around the bush, without ever saying always online DRM is harmful and should be discouraged(unless it is FTP or specifically advertised as a form of a MMO).
Speaking about RPS, they still are the only ones that are specifically and clearly on the consumers side.
New article.
FTA:
Bradshaw’s post, which appears to be some sort of attempt at damage limitation – without actually ever addressing the issues raised – re-emphasises the point that they wanted it to be always online because of how they designed the game. She then lists the functions those server sums supply. And they’re what we already knew – they let the social game be social. This list that is basically just “the game has co-operative multiplayer” eight times seems to be an attempt to reveal just how grand this aspect is, how intrinsic it is to… something. It doesn’t manage this. What we’re learning from the many players posting videos, and the reviewers who actually played the game properly before smothering it with rosettes, is that those regional functions don’t work very well either.
New article.
FTA:
Bradshaw’s post, which appears to be some sort of attempt at damage limitation – without actually ever addressing the issues raised – re-emphasises the point that they wanted it to be always online because of how they designed the game. She then lists the functions those server sums supply. And they’re what we already knew – they let the social game be social. This list that is basically just “the game has co-operative multiplayer” eight times seems to be an attempt to reveal just how grand this aspect is, how intrinsic it is to… something. It doesn’t manage this. What we’re learning from the many players posting videos, and the reviewers who actually played the game properly before smothering it with rosettes, is that those regional functions don’t work very well either.
I chuckled at the fact it's named Kowloon.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Wonder if any other gaming outlet will pick this up and report on it.
... Fat chance!
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
Even though they broke our heart
Whiteshirt
Member
Its easy to explain: Gies always doubles down because Gies hates to be wrong and hates to admit to being wrong. He's not a shill, just listen to anything he has says. He says it with utmost conviction, often without much basis, and will never back down from his position unless it has a get-out-of-jail card. The perfect example is with the PS4 announcement. He quickly admitted to being wrong about the RAM: this is easy to admit, no one knew about the 8GB of RAM, even Sony's first party apparently. But he doubled down on the whole "Gaikai won't be used for BC" even when Sony themselves mentioned that they plan to use BC to deliver their back catalogue to the PS4. Admitting defeat in this case would mean you're admitting that you might know less than you'd like to think you know.
With this whole SimCity thing, he basically doubled down on the whole offline thing before modders released that offline patch. Since he said those things, the only way he can get out of this mess is to admit to being wrong. His being literally can't do this so he's just muddying the waters and being an obtuse brat.
Anyone who says that Mass Effect 3's ending (the original ending had plotholes you could drive through) is perfect or Vanquish is a "clunky punitive" game (not just a bad opinion but an opinion that is factually wrong) has very bad opinions. Its fine to have controversial or even "bad" opinions but you need to be able to defend them. In both cases, his response to the community was along the line of "salty gamers" or "cargo cults giving Platinum games good scores" respectively. He literally doesn't want to admit to being wrong for whatever reason and its hilarious.
rohlfinator
Member
Hm, the powerpoint that was floating around made it sound like it was per-agent. But they could have changed it since then. The way you describe seems more realistic based on all the AI weirdness.
Kinda crazy that it's even that high given how broken it is.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Money hats lol.
great review. Even when he's mad, he has an awesome speaking voice.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
divide by the pologon score and subtract any revew over a 6 and the real score it below that
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
The more I see those screenshots the more it really shows how tiny each "locale" is. Hell, at some point it felt like the islands in Tropico are larger than the given region!