So here's the real question: is the game any good? Eight bucks is a good price if it's fun.
I don't think this case is any different from every other game people pirate.That seems more similar to the case at hand here, yeah. I still dont see how anyone should be judged for downloading that version. I mean are we agreeing on that its not a clear cut case at least? I see downloading THAT version (with the intent of treating it as an extended demo) as perfectly fine.
What if I download that version with that intent? Will people call me a pirate? My intent is clearly not to pirate the full version since I know its not the full game, so the argument of "intention" is out of the window.
Wow I just assumed this game was a sequel to Game Dev Story. They just straight up stole that idea, huh? There goes my sympathy.
Not really sure what the point of the of debate on whether it's actually piracy or not is.
They're not threatening to report those who downloaded the "cracked" version to the police, it's mostly a bit of a social experiment and yes an opportunity for some clever viral marketing. The people who downloaded it thought they were pirating it, they played what they thought was an illegally acquired complete copy of the game, and went on to complain about in-game piracy. There is an irony there, whether it would hold up in court or not.
I don't think uploading the cracked version themselves really had much of an effect on sales or on how much it got pirated either; it would have been uploaded sooner or later anyway, unless it would have been completely ignored.
They should make a version in which they get sued for being thieving unoriginal sons of bitches by Kairosoft and an epic trial occurs, they could steal the game system for Phoenix Wright.
I'm a huge fan of Game Dev Story and it kind of rubs me up the wrong way seeing these guys unshamefully ripping it off and then complaining about piracy.
It's like a thief telling people not to steal.
are you all trying to say people should not be able to create their own take on a subject because it's been done before?
They should make a version in which they get sued for being thieving unoriginal sons of bitches by Kairosoft and an epic trial occurs, they could steal the game system for Phoenix Wright.
are you all trying to say people should not be able to create their own take on a subject because it's been done before?
are you all trying to say people should not be able to create their own take on a subject because it's been done before?
try the demo. its a crappier 1:1 clone
Not really sure what the point of the of debate on whether it's actually piracy or not is.
They're not threatening to report those who downloaded the "cracked" version to the police, it's mostly a bit of a social experiment and yes an opportunity for some clever viral marketing. The people who downloaded it thought they were pirating it, they played what they thought was an illegally acquired complete copy of the game, and went on to complain about in-game piracy. There is an irony there, whether it would hold up in court or not.
I don't think uploading the cracked version themselves really had much of an effect on sales or on how much it got pirated either; it would have been uploaded sooner or later anyway, unless it would have been completely ignored.
try the demo. its a crappier 1:1 clone
What's wrong with using the same idea as Game Dev Story? There can be more than one entry in a sub-genre, for example there have been loads of football/soccer management games.
The football management games are drastically different. I played a lot and I have NEVER played a football management game that was basically the same as one of the others. Not even the free online ones.
There's nothing wrong with it, as long as they're not directly stealing any assets or code. You cannot and should not be able to have some monopoly over rules in a game, "similar" aesthetics, themes, whatever. That's just bull.What's wrong with using the same idea as Game Dev Story? There can be more than one entry in a sub-genre, for example there have been loads of football/soccer management games.
There's nothing wrong with it, as long as they're not directly stealing any assets or code. You cannot and should not be able to have some monopoly over rules in a game, "similar" aesthetics, themes, whatever. That's just bull.
Eh, it seems they only allow you to play the demo once : /
What's wrong with using the same idea as Game Dev Story? There can be more than one entry in a sub-genre, for example there have been loads of football/soccer management games.
Taking less work to do something doesn't make it wrong. It usually makes it smart.It is morally questionable (funny how the tables turned now) since these devs basically stole the design concept. Its less work to just take a game and rebuild it using different art assets, than building a completely new game or creating their own take on the genre.
Remaking Mario with different art assets is still basically "stealing" the thoughts, the time and money that went into making considerations about physics, level and overall game design. Not "illegal", but definitely morally questionable.
This is genius.
EDIT: I thought this was a sequel to Kairosofts game, not some blatant ripoff. They even stole the title. Very deceptive.
Taking less work to do something doesn't make it wrong. It usually makes it smart.
You can't steal thoughts, and it's definitely not stealing their time or money either. It's taking advantage of work already being done.
There's no line that can be drawn anywhere where games on one side are clones and games on the other are simply draw inspiration. Or rather, than line is when you start actually taking assets.
Oh it's not? Not sure if I should buy it now.
This is genius.
EDIT: I thought this was a sequel to Kairosofts game, not some blatant ripoff. They even stole the title. Very deceptive.
Thankfully, the game can be purchased for longer than one day.200 sales seems pretty awful, though. That's about $2000. It pays for maybe two man-weeks worth of work. If that.
Everybody should just wait for Game Dev Story 2. Kairosoft already has it made, they're just holding it ransom and haven't translated it yet for some stupid reason.
Yeah i'm sure "game dev" wasn't an expression before kairosoft created game dev story
Sooo...we're ok with DRM now...if the games are good?
(Sony and Microsoft are reading this) lol
Those pirated #'s are amazing though. Wow...and the game is less than $10. I can't believe people are pirating something so cheap.
So they steal the concept and style of Game Dev Story, and come up with a transparent gimmick to sell their cheap knock-off.
And, judging by this thread, it's working a treat. Good job guys.
Someone once told me its all about the intention:
http://www.gamerankings.com/browse.html?search=game+dev&numrev=3&site=
The intention was pretty clearly to ride on the success of the original game.
I can't help but wonder if this game would have even received a torrent if they hadn't uploaded it themselves, to be honest. Those percentages sound nasty, but when you look at the actual raw numbers....a couple of thousand people total playing your game isn't exactly the big leagues. I would've never heard about the title if they hadn't promoted the hell out of themselves with this stunt of theirs.
Also, this has nothing on the Vuvuzelas from Michael Jackson: The Experience.
it could very well be, actually. I just find it it hilarious to consider that a title was copied when it's a common way of calling developers. We could argue that the are banking on the success of past tycoon games for using the tycoon word too.
But then it should be called:
Maker of games simulator
but then it'd be banking on the successful "X simulator" series