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Kotaku Rumor: Microsoft 6 months behind in game production for X720 [Pastebin = Ban]

Remember folks who are buying a PS4, these exclusive maybe timed so you may not miss out anyway. Bioshock, Mass Effect and etc are examples.

Mass Effect was never a "timed exclusive" (other than PC) at the time though. Bioshock was a third party game. If by signing it means Microsoft publishing the games, than it would take the company being bought by a third party publisher and a contract expiring for it to appear on other platforms. ME was in the same boat as Gears and Alan Wake before Bioware was bought by EA.



Them being behind in production I can believe. With the announcement being pushed back from the rumored April reveal. It adds up.
 

thuway

Member
Mods, if this offends you, please tell me to delete this shit, the bird can't take another ban.


A few months ago, I spoke to someone familiar with the situation over at MS.

I kept pandering him for performance numbers and how well it translates into what we see on screen. I wanted to know if anything had changed from the leaked specs we had in the original PDF floating around.

A week after the PS4 press conference he cracked and admitted that beta kits were running hotter than they wanted. He claimed the teams is experiencing headaches trying to get all the pieces to fit together in a timely fashion. The last thing he told me was, "Performance, at this moment, is the least of our concerns."

I know this sounds like some sort of fanfic, but I am sure someone or the other can back me up on if they have the courage to do so.

Also, temper your expectations for Ryse. The animation system is supposedly janky. It's not a Kinnect title only btw, it has been converted into a full featured AAA game so that is something atleast.
 

harSon

Banned
They're not currently working on any Microsoft exclusives, as far as I know. Certainly not Crackdown 3.

They're rumored to be working on Ryse alongside Crytek, but nothing's really known regarding the developer outside of that.
 

Painraze

Unconfirmed Member
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A few months ago, I spoke to someone familiar with the situation over at MS.

I kept pandering him for performance numbers and how well it translates into what we see on screen. I wanted to know if anything had changed from the leaked specs we had in the original PDF floating around.

A week after the PS4 press conference he cracked and admitted that beta kits were running hotter than they wanted. He claimed the teams is experiencing headaches trying to get all the pieces to fit together in a timely fashion. The last thing he told me was, "Performance, at this moment, is the least of our concerns."

I know this sounds like some sort of fanfic, but I am sure someone or the other can back me up on if they have the courage to do so.

Also, temper your expectations for Ryse. The animation system is supposedly janky. It's not a Kinnect title only btw, it has been converted into a full featured AAA game so that is something atleast.

Ouch.....
 

Reiko

Banned
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A few months ago, I spoke to someone familiar with the situation over at MS.

I kept pandering him for performance numbers and how well it translates into what we see on screen. I wanted to know if anything had changed from the leaked specs we had in the original PDF floating around.

A week after the PS4 press conference he cracked and admitted that beta kits were running hotter than they wanted. He claimed the teams is experiencing headaches trying to get all the pieces to fit together in a timely fashion. The last thing he told me was, "Performance, at this moment, is the least of our concerns."

I know this sounds like some sort of fanfic, but I am sure someone or the other can back me up on if they have the courage to do so.

Also, temper your expectations for Ryse. The animation system is supposedly janky. It's not a Kinnect title only btw, it has been converted into a full featured AAA game so that is something atleast.

I've heard this as well from someone [Which I shall not name] on here. Via PM of course.
 

Amir0x

Banned
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A few months ago, I spoke to someone familiar with the situation over at MS.

I kept pandering him for performance numbers and how well it translates into what we see on screen. I wanted to know if anything had changed from the leaked specs we had in the original PDF floating around.

A week after the PS4 press conference he cracked and admitted that beta kits were running hotter than they wanted. He claimed the teams is experiencing headaches trying to get all the pieces to fit together in a timely fashion. The last thing he told me was, "Performance, at this moment, is the least of our concerns."

I know this sounds like some sort of fanfic, but I am sure someone or the other can back me up on if they have the courage to do so.

Also, temper your expectations for Ryse. The animation system is supposedly janky. It's not a Kinnect title only btw, it has been converted into a full featured AAA game so that is something atleast.

wait so it's not even about game production, it's about the tech itself not even being ready?

Ryse always sounded like abject shit, do not want.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
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A few months ago, I spoke to someone familiar with the situation over at MS.

I kept pandering him for performance numbers and how well it translates into what we see on screen. I wanted to know if anything had changed from the leaked specs we had in the original PDF floating around.

A week after the PS4 press conference he cracked and admitted that beta kits were running hotter than they wanted. He claimed the teams is experiencing headaches trying to get all the pieces to fit together in a timely fashion. The last thing he told me was, "Performance, at this moment, is the least of our concerns."

I know this sounds like some sort of fanfic, but I am sure someone or the other can back me up on if they have the courage to do so.

Also, temper your expectations for Ryse. The animation system is supposedly janky. It's not a Kinnect title only btw, it has been converted into a full featured AAA game so that is something atleast.
Thanks for the information.

This probably contributed to the April to May 21 delay.

wait so it's not even about game production, it's about the tech itself not even being ready?

Ryse always sounded like abject shit, do not want.
OP mentioned hardware being behind, not just software.
 

Elginer

Member
buttocks is laying those bombas. Fuck Microsoft getting your shit gear. What the hell were they doing, making Apps and Avatar hats can't take that much damn resources.
 

Toki767

Member
Mods, if this offends you, please tell me to delete this shit, the bird can't take another ban.


A few months ago, I spoke to someone familiar with the situation over at MS.

I kept pandering him for performance numbers and how well it translates into what we see on screen. I wanted to know if anything had changed from the leaked specs we had in the original PDF floating around.

A week after the PS4 press conference he cracked and admitted that beta kits were running hotter than they wanted. He claimed the teams is experiencing headaches trying to get all the pieces to fit together in a timely fashion. The last thing he told me was, "Performance, at this moment, is the least of our concerns."

I know this sounds like some sort of fanfic, but I am sure someone or the other can back me up on if they have the courage to do so.

Also, temper your expectations for Ryse. The animation system is supposedly janky. It's not a Kinnect title only btw, it has been converted into a full featured AAA game so that is something atleast.

So we really may have RROD 2.0?
 
So what would be less damaging? Should they still try to announce and compete while they are behind...or simply wait until they're ready? Providing this is true...
 
Mods, if this offends you, please tell me to delete this shit, the bird can't take another ban.


A few months ago, I spoke to someone familiar with the situation over at MS.

I kept pandering him for performance numbers and how well it translates into what we see on screen. I wanted to know if anything had changed from the leaked specs we had in the original PDF floating around.

A week after the PS4 press conference he cracked and admitted that beta kits were running hotter than they wanted. He claimed the teams is experiencing headaches trying to get all the pieces to fit together in a timely fashion. The last thing he told me was, "Performance, at this moment, is the least of our concerns."

I know this sounds like some sort of fanfic, but I am sure someone or the other can back me up on if they have the courage to do so.

Also, temper your expectations for Ryse. The animation system is supposedly janky. It's not a Kinnect title only btw, it has been converted into a full featured AAA game so that is something atleast.

Well I'll be damned.
I feel bad for Microsoft actually, their position was so easy and Sony is instead doing what they should have done and that's to focus on the gamezzzz.
 

Takuya

Banned
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A few months ago, I spoke to someone familiar with the situation over at MS.

I kept pandering him for performance numbers and how well it translates into what we see on screen. I wanted to know if anything had changed from the leaked specs we had in the original PDF floating around.

A week after the PS4 press conference he cracked and admitted that beta kits were running hotter than they wanted. He claimed the teams is experiencing headaches trying to get all the pieces to fit together in a timely fashion. The last thing he told me was, "Performance, at this moment, is the least of our concerns."

I know this sounds like some sort of fanfic, but I am sure someone or the other can back me up on if they have the courage to do so.

Also, temper your expectations for Ryse. The animation system is supposedly janky. It's not a Kinnect title only btw, it has been converted into a full featured AAA game so that is something atleast.

RROD mk.2 confirmed? Looking likely.
 

Painraze

Unconfirmed Member
wait so it's not even about game production, it's about the tech itself not even being ready?

That sounds crazy to me. I thought, if anyone, MS would have their hardware shit together and locked down by now. The PS4 sounds like something MS should have made.

twist......

Also, if the Xbox is 'running hot' and it's still not as powerful as the PS4 then..... WOW.
 
Mods, if this offends you, please tell me to delete this shit, the bird can't take another ban.


A few months ago, I spoke to someone familiar with the situation over at MS.

I kept pandering him for performance numbers and how well it translates into what we see on screen. I wanted to know if anything had changed from the leaked specs we had in the original PDF floating around.

A week after the PS4 press conference he cracked and admitted that beta kits were running hotter than they wanted. He claimed the teams is experiencing headaches trying to get all the pieces to fit together in a timely fashion. The last thing he told me was, "Performance, at this moment, is the least of our concerns."

I know this sounds like some sort of fanfic, but I am sure someone or the other can back me up on if they have the courage to do so.

Also, temper your expectations for Ryse. The animation system is supposedly janky. It's not a Kinnect title only btw, it has been converted into a full featured AAA game so that is something atleast.

I believe this.
 
Can't MS just moneyhat their way out?

And about Sony: they seem cushiony with indie devs, but MS has the biggest one: Minecraft.

I can't imagine that Sony wouldn't secure MC, especially for VITA.

Anyways, if this turns into a moneyhatting war, it'd be interesting. But MS surely has the power there...right?

thuway said:
Mods, if this offends you, please tell me to delete this shit, the bird can't take another ban.


A few months ago, I spoke to someone familiar with the situation over at MS.

I kept pandering him for performance numbers and how well it translates into what we see on screen. I wanted to know if anything had changed from the leaked specs we had in the original PDF floating around.

A week after the PS4 press conference he cracked and admitted that beta kits were running hotter than they wanted. He claimed the teams is experiencing headaches trying to get all the pieces to fit together in a timely fashion. The last thing he told me was, "Performance, at this moment, is the least of our concerns."

I know this sounds like some sort of fanfic, but I am sure someone or the other can back me up on if they have the courage to do so.

Also, temper your expectations for Ryse. The animation system is supposedly janky. It's not a Kinnect title only btw, it has been converted into a full featured AAA game so that is something atleast.

Whoa.

So, what happens?

MS forces another early release, or they lose console exclusive opportunities?

If Sony gets a headstart in the U.S. it's over...

Polished and well designed PSN Brand
PSN value
Americanized exclusives/multiplats
Indie games
F2P?
Japanese megatons?

Anyone think it's possible for MS to play catch up successfully?

I can't believe MS didn't use their time on top to develop more internal studios. Sony fostered some decent names last gen, and some have really grown this gen:

Sucker Punch
Naughty Dog
Quantic Dream
Guerilla Games

Mind you, they also destroyed guys like Zipper.
 
Mods, if this offends you, please tell me to delete this shit, the bird can't take another ban.


A few months ago, I spoke to someone familiar with the situation over at MS.

I kept pandering him for performance numbers and how well it translates into what we see on screen. I wanted to know if anything had changed from the leaked specs we had in the original PDF floating around.

A week after the PS4 press conference he cracked and admitted that beta kits were running hotter than they wanted. He claimed the teams is experiencing headaches trying to get all the pieces to fit together in a timely fashion. The last thing he told me was, "Performance, at this moment, is the least of our concerns."

I know this sounds like some sort of fanfic, but I am sure someone or the other can back me up on if they have the courage to do so.

Also, temper your expectations for Ryse. The animation system is supposedly janky. It's not a Kinnect title only btw, it has been converted into a full featured AAA game so that is something atleast.
Ahhhhh shit this doesn't sound good.
 

alr1ght

bish gets all the credit :)
A week after the PS4 press conference he cracked and admitted that beta kits were running hotter than they wanted. He claimed the teams is experiencing headaches trying to get all the pieces to fit together in a timely fashion. The last thing he told me was, "Performance, at this moment, is the least of our concerns."

They can't afford another RROD situation.
 

Mifune

Mehmber
Honestly, this isn't all that surprising. I was hopeful that Microsoft's new internal teams could produce great product out of thin air but deep down I knew that was unrealistic.

Look at who's behind Sony's launch games: Guerrilla Games, Sucker Punch, Evolution. These are studios that Sony has nurtured for years and generations. Who does Microsoft have with that sort of track record? I love the idea of MS starting up new studios like Black Tusk, and Rare returning to "core" game development, but as we know game development is extremely difficult and fraught with peril, and expecting new teams to hit it out of the park from the get-go is asking a bit much.

I hope Remedy has something to show soon, Turn 10 will undoubtedly bring the racing, and I haven't given up on Rare, but I'm struggling to see where the launch lineup will come from outside of third parties.
 

Hindle

Banned
This sucks, but I never expected whatever Black Tusk was working on to make launch. I always thought that was more of a Fall 2014 onwards kind of thing.

I'm thinking they originally wanted it ready for next Christmas. But it's likely it will be a 2016 game.
 

Kaako

Felium Defensor
Mods, if this offends you, please tell me to delete this shit, the bird can't take another ban.


A few months ago, I spoke to someone familiar with the situation over at MS.

I kept pandering him for performance numbers and how well it translates into what we see on screen. I wanted to know if anything had changed from the leaked specs we had in the original PDF floating around.

A week after the PS4 press conference he cracked and admitted that beta kits were running hotter than they wanted. He claimed the teams is experiencing headaches trying to get all the pieces to fit together in a timely fashion. The last thing he told me was, "Performance, at this moment, is the least of our concerns."

I know this sounds like some sort of fanfic, but I am sure someone or the other can back me up on if they have the courage to do so.

Also, temper your expectations for Ryse. The animation system is supposedly janky. It's not a Kinnect title only btw, it has been converted into a full featured AAA game so that is something atleast.
Thanks for the info wittle bird, it is much appreciated. This is worrying though regarding the actual hardware. I really hope MS have gotten their shit together. Waiting patiently to see how it plays out soon enough.
 
The 360 was a lucky bet from microsoft. They played current-gen well but their luck will run out very soon and I for am nothing but happy for this. The sooner money grabbing shit-bag companies like MS start deteriorating the better. Maybe they can take some ques from sony about how to handle VIDEO GAMES instead of trying to turn VIDEO GAME consoles into "entertainment boxes"

Nothing wrong with putting entertaining content into the consoles, but don't try to piss on us and start calling it rain. I am so fucking sick and tired of microsofts antics. Like for christ's sake there are NOTHING but advertisements on the 360 dashboard AND YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR LIVE. It's time that we start teaching them a lesson with our wallets, because once that happens they will have to depend on us for sales instead of depending on them for video games.


Like, I just want to play video games. Fuck.
 

harSon

Banned
MS really wants to wait 3weeks before they say anything about this bad news? Everything about the xbox3 just sounds horrible.
Right now i see no reason to buy a xbox3 instead of a ps4. Why should i still pay for online gaming, PSN with PS4 will offer everything a console could need for online gaming? why should i buy the console with less first party studio games, which mostly are shooters or casual games?

Xbox was awesome from 2006-2010 but the last 2.5 years were just bad.

It really doesn't matter when they make the announcement. Publicly denying the rumors now nets the same conclusion as announcing their console on their own terms. Under both scenarios, rumors will be replaced by fact. It's not like consumers are going to refuse to purchase Microsoft's console due to fictitious rumors.
 

Amir0x

Banned
crazy buttocks on a train said:
another thing you shoulknw abuot

BLACK TUSK IS behind indevlopment. schedul.e

I just want to ask something that I've noticed

nobody ever doubts buttocks info, I know I don't. but why does crazy buttocks on a train always type like he is just one drink shy of a 24 pack? Is this just something people don't ask, a hard-and-fast rule like not talkin' about Fight Club?


Guys Durango sounds like about the best console ever though, I'm still awash in all that single piece of good news that's out there.
 

Melchiah

Member
I think Sony's focus on "Games First" caught MS by surprise, they were prepared/preparing for a "Battle for the Living Room, Round 2." when Sony threw a curve ball and have gone in a direction they we're ill prepared to respond to.

I think changes, if any, would have been more marketing related and possibly policy related, such as requirements for online.

I think games were less ready than the living room experience / media functionality and to respond to Sony's games first philosophy they have some catch up to do.

All conjecture of course, but none of the above would surprise me.

That actually sound a pretty plausible theory. Never thought about it that way myself.


Mods, if this offends you, please tell me to delete this shit, the bird can't take another ban.


A few months ago, I spoke to someone familiar with the situation over at MS.

I kept pandering him for performance numbers and how well it translates into what we see on screen. I wanted to know if anything had changed from the leaked specs we had in the original PDF floating around.

A week after the PS4 press conference he cracked and admitted that beta kits were running hotter than they wanted. He claimed the teams is experiencing headaches trying to get all the pieces to fit together in a timely fashion. The last thing he told me was, "Performance, at this moment, is the least of our concerns."

I know this sounds like some sort of fanfic, but I am sure someone or the other can back me up on if they have the courage to do so.

Also, temper your expectations for Ryse. The animation system is supposedly janky. It's not a Kinnect title only btw, it has been converted into a full featured AAA game so that is something atleast.

Uh oh, sounds like they didn't learn their lesson the last time.
 

Reiko

Banned
That sounds crazy to me. I thought, if anyone, MS would have their hardware shit together and locked down by now. The PS4 sounds like something MS should have made.

twist......

Also, if the Xbox is 'running hot' and it's still not as powerful as the PS4 then..... WOW.

Hot could also mean something is being overclocked. But I'm not sure about that one.
 
These guys only went in full gear late. Hell they were quick to shut down studios, but Black Tusk studios started full development of their "next big thing" when? Late last year? lol
 

joeblow

Member
Mods, if this offends you, please tell me to delete this shit, the bird can't take another ban.


A few months ago, I spoke to someone familiar with the situation over at MS.

I kept pandering him for performance numbers and how well it translates into what we see on screen. I wanted to know if anything had changed from the leaked specs we had in the original PDF floating around.

A week after the PS4 press conference he cracked and admitted that beta kits were running hotter than they wanted. He claimed the teams is experiencing headaches trying to get all the pieces to fit together in a timely fashion. The last thing he told me was, "Performance, at this moment, is the least of our concerns."

I know this sounds like some sort of fanfic, but I am sure someone or the other can back me up on if they have the courage to do so.

Also, temper your expectations for Ryse. The animation system is supposedly janky. It's not a Kinnect title only btw, it has been converted into a full featured AAA game so that is something atleast.

If your info is true, props for the brave reveal. And if you mysteriously disappear from the face of the earth in 24 hours, I'll be sure to tell your mother that you loved her.
 
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