SuperLurker
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This driver does not support bluetooth
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Alternatives to MotionInJoy?
- Thread starter Zombie James
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This driver does not support bluetooth
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Well I don't know lol, that same thing happened to me too though.
Actually, I just managed to make that happen, by using the "Remove" option in the driver manager of the latest version, and removing both the USB and BT driver that way before uninstalling the program. Then, when reconnecting the controller (after a reboot), it was no longer picked up as a MiJ controller. So that seems to be a safer way to get rid of everything than doing it the way you described, at least for me.
Then, of course, I proceeded to reinstall the program and the drivers, but it's good to know that they seem completely removable with the latest version (with which BT is now also working great, which it didn't when I just upgraded from the previous version).
scorpscarx
Member
Iirc it leaves a trail in appdata, may be why.
Bjoern the Smexy
Member
Xpadder is the stuff of dreams. I used it ever since I replayed Mass Effect on my PC (I couldn't play this game with KB+M because I was so used to the 360 version at that time).
For every game that hasn't native 360 support I've always been using Xpadder since then.
For every game that hasn't native 360 support I've always been using Xpadder since then.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Nah, that wouldn't cause a driver to get reinstalled. But whatever, found a way to get rid of the drivers that seems to work now, if I ever need to do it!
And given how most games don't give a shit about GFWL I imagine it'd be possible to put in both button sets. But then maybe Microsoft doesn't like when people try to do that with games that already have their buttons in them? Would be nice though, especially if Nintendo did the same (but they would be the most resistant to it, naturally.)
Anyways, I suspect when you want a controller with a good (err, Hi hope) D-Pad in the traditional position the Logitech controllers would be a better choice, but to just use the PS3 controller to save money... well, I guess others offered as good of advice as you could expect.
To anyone using Motioninjoy, I'd recommend you use this version.
Is an offline version that removes all the ad's and much improves the GUI. You still need the regular program installed, just don't run it and use the alternative versions .exe instead inside the Motioninjoy install folder.
Is an offline version that removes all the ad's and much improves the GUI. You still need the regular program installed, just don't run it and use the alternative versions .exe instead inside the Motioninjoy install folder.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Okay, now this is interesting.
It will still keep the settings you made in MiJ right?
No, I recall it uses it's own .ini. But you might be able to just rename your previous MiJ .ini and use it with this alternative version.
I eventually just gave up with MiJ in the end, though. Despite having gamed pretty much exclusively on dual-shocks for the last 6-7 years, I bit the bullet and just got used to the 360 pad.
Actually, I went for a Speedlink Xeox Pro. It's identical to the official 360 controller in use, shape and form apart from a nice rubberised coating and slight grips on the under-handles. But is also rechargable which I preferred over the battery-pack, and is switchable between X-Input for newer games and Direct-Input for older titles. In X-Input mode, it's just recognised by Windows as an offical 360 controller.
Build quality is rock solid and is easily the best third-party controller I've ever used. I've even now picked up the PS3 version which is the best 360 orientated PS3 controller on the market.
Only minus mark is that they've copied the main attributes of the 360 controller so accurately, the d-pad is equally as naff unfortunately.
Except it keeps coming back even after doing that and rebooting.
Motionjoy totally fucked up my wife's Logitech mouse/keyboard combo and I've yet to be able to get it to work (I need to format her computer, but she won't let met).
I eventually just gave up using it and picked up one of these
The top on on the left is the F310 (wired, no rumble), the one to it's right is the F510 (wired, rumble) and the bottom one is the F710 (wireless, rumble).
I've got the F710 and it's a fantastic controller. What I like about these controllers is that there's a switch on the back to support DInout (the old API for controllers) and XInput (the new API for 360 controllers). That means it'll work with older PC games, but can act as a 360 controller for the PC as well.
They also have a d-pad that flat destroys the 360 one.
I eventually just gave up using it and picked up one of these
The top on on the left is the F310 (wired, no rumble), the one to it's right is the F510 (wired, rumble) and the bottom one is the F710 (wireless, rumble).
I've got the F710 and it's a fantastic controller. What I like about these controllers is that there's a switch on the back to support DInout (the old API for controllers) and XInput (the new API for 360 controllers). That means it'll work with older PC games, but can act as a 360 controller for the PC as well.
They also have a d-pad that flat destroys the 360 one.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Do what I did instead: In the latest version of the MiJ program, driver manager section, use the "Remove" button to remove all drivers (your DS3 needs to be plugged in for the USB driver to show up there, I think). You might have to first let MiJ install the drivers and then remove them again. Then, uninstall MiJ. That seemed to remove all drivers for me, and after rebooting and plugging in the DS3 again it was just recognized as a PS3 controller (unusable, of course) again. No more MiJ virtual controller being detected.
(I actually use MiJ, so I've reinstalled it again, I just did this to test).
Weltall Zero
Member
I really really wish someone came up with an alternative to MotionInJoy. Good as itis (and yes, I've been using the offline version for a few months), it sometimes takes a while to recognize my PS3 pad.
If this late into the generation, you haven't memorized the layouts of both controllers (and therefore have to look down at the buttons themselves to know which one to press), this thread is probably not going to help much.
They don't, don't bother, it's useless. I'm frankly surprised we haven't got any "kb+m mouse is superior" post yet though, perhaps all is not lost?
Tru dat. It does have a few oddities (mostly regarding using multiple shift/set change buttons), but otherwise it's my controller -> keyboard + mouse mapper of choice. I woudn't play Guild Wars 2 (yes, an MMO) without it. It also turns flash games (Megaman vs Street Fighter, Mario Bros Crossover, Rokko-chan) into actual games!
If this late into the generation, you haven't memorized the layouts of both controllers (and therefore have to look down at the buttons themselves to know which one to press), this thread is probably not going to help much.
They don't, don't bother, it's useless. I'm frankly surprised we haven't got any "kb+m mouse is superior" post yet though, perhaps all is not lost?
Tru dat. It does have a few oddities (mostly regarding using multiple shift/set change buttons), but otherwise it's my controller -> keyboard + mouse mapper of choice. I woudn't play Guild Wars 2 (yes, an MMO) without it. It also turns flash games (Megaman vs Street Fighter, Mario Bros Crossover, Rokko-chan) into actual games!
RoadHazard
Gold Member
I have an issue where, after having disconnected the controller, it often won't be picked up again until I turn my BT device off and then on again. Not a huge deal (it's just a quick Fn-key combo on my laptop), but somewhat annoying. Once I'm connected it's rock solid though.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Suggestions to go with a PS2 or X360 controller are bogus. MotionInJoy is all about letting you play with Navigation Controller + Mouse.
I should really give xpadder an honest go. I bought it and have tried it in various games, but it doesn't ever feel quite right at first and I always just give up on it instead of seeing if I could get used to it.
Like in Guild Wars 2, Iw ould love to be able to play that with a pad.
zephervack
Member
Love MotionInJoy, but I do have to agree that it takes a bit of patience to find a working Bluetooth adapter. I also got BSOD but it was my own fault for not configuring it correctly.
Once you have it working and configured, it is a dream, use it for all my gaming, and I can even sit down in my comfy couch and play wireless even though the computer is in the other room.
With a bit of fiddling I was also able to have both DS3 and a Wii mote connected at the same time (both wireless).
I used to have a wireless Xbox 360 controller dongle but I dont think they sell the adapters anymore, mine just stopped working one day which made me look up MotionInJoy, havent looked back.
Once you have it working and configured, it is a dream, use it for all my gaming, and I can even sit down in my comfy couch and play wireless even though the computer is in the other room.
With a bit of fiddling I was also able to have both DS3 and a Wii mote connected at the same time (both wireless).
I used to have a wireless Xbox 360 controller dongle but I dont think they sell the adapters anymore
, mine just stopped working one day which made me look up MotionInJoy, havent looked back.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Why do you need XPadder? Can't you do what it does with just MiJ?
If I uninstall the MiJ drivers Windows automatically installs the regular BT drivers again after rebooting the computer, that doesn't happen for you?
Naked Snake
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I stumbled upon this yesterday (Pinnacle Game Profiler): http://pinnaclegameprofiler.com/for...er-in-Xbox-360-Controller-Only-Games-with-PGP
Yep, I used this for a while. Too bad it's not free and you only get a 30 day trial.
atomic moth
Member
MiJ only hijacks Bluetooth signals, right? So I should be fine with any other wireless USB components?
Tesseract
Banned
can you? i haven't looked. i'm just more familiar with xpadder's advanced assignment functions.
Does it only hijack Bluetooth if you install the drivers for Bluetooth for it? I use a BT dongle and maybe because the program doesn't recognize it but it never once attempted to make a BT driver.
This sort of helps verify to me that the BT disaster I've been having has nothing to do with this program, as its hardware ID is nowhere in the configuration file. Googling the model and the name of the device of the dongle too gives very, very few results (BCM920702 Bluetooth 4.0).
Zombie James
Banned
Ended up just ordering myself a cheap 360 wireless receiver on eBay. Less than ideal, but I guess it's the best i can do. Thanks for the input.
Exploding8
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I actually was looking for an alternative yesterday and I found this.
http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-XInp...-USB-Dual-DS2-Controller?pid=281823#pid281823
It should work for XBox 360 with a Dualshock 3 controller as well as wireless bluetooth connections, but my bluetooth has a problem where it constantly connects and reconnects so I can't test the bluetooth part. Seems like the Xbox 360 part works though! Not sure if it works with controllers other than the PS3's or not.
http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-XInp...-USB-Dual-DS2-Controller?pid=281823#pid281823
It should work for XBox 360 with a Dualshock 3 controller as well as wireless bluetooth connections, but my bluetooth has a problem where it constantly connects and reconnects so I can't test the bluetooth part. Seems like the Xbox 360 part works though! Not sure if it works with controllers other than the PS3's or not.
look at using betterDS3, it still requires MiJ, but only for install.
http://betterds3.ciebiera.net/
the one thing about the scp xinput wrapper is it even sets the home button. The guide button is left unexposed so you can't really use it for anything and I would very much like to be able to use it to close pcsx2 using the controller.
the idea being i'd be able to run and close pcsx2 games without leaving the comfy couch.
the idea being i'd be able to run and close pcsx2 games without leaving the comfy couch.
toddhunter
Member
It is quite handy.
The other method out there now doesn't require motioninjoy at all. You just plug your PS3 controller in or hit the PS button and it is a 360 controller.
Motioninjoy is still handy sometimes, but as above this is better:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=53988270&postcount=137
I tested and it seems that it makes Steam go into big screen mode, so I'm guessing Steam itself put in 360 emulation support for the DS3. Hopefully similar can be done with the DS4.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Does it work with PS3 controllers plugged into USB? I was liking one driver until I realized that it needed bluetooth.
Has the OP indicated that they wanted to use their DS3 because they don't like the Xbox controller? Or even just prefer it?
If so, I don't see the harm in people suggesting just to get a 360 controller to save time, effort and to have your controller almost always work in supported games.
EDIT: I should read the post dates..
Baron_Calamity
Member
Thats been my experience as well. It isn't really malware but it screwed up my pc so bad that I ended up removing and reinstalling just about every driver to get to get my computer working. I refuse to use it again.
Yes. It doesn't explicitly state it in the instructions so I was a bit worried when first installing it, but just uncheck everything BT related when installing, plug in your PS3 via USB, and it works fine.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Ah cool, I hope it doesn't do what MotionJoy did - MJ assumed every input device is a controller lol
famousmortimer
Banned
Oh is that why I've been getting BSODs lately after not having them for years? Crap.
Time to investigate those other means then. I had a 360 controller for a while but offset sticks are the work of the devil so i sold that shit.
Time to investigate those other means then. I had a 360 controller for a while but offset sticks are the work of the devil so i sold that shit.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Is there an alternate download for this? The download link they provided stops at 51% :/
toddhunter
Member
Yeah I only use it via USB. It works perfectly and just auto detects it as a 360 controller.
+1 for this. I used to use MIJ and recently switched over to this. I use two controllers plugged into USB (also use them wirelessly for my PS3), haven't had any issues.
I had to uninstall MIJ twice to get rid of it. It's such a terrible program. I mean:
- It's the only driver I know of where you have to open an app for it to run.
- Its UI is HTML, so if the website is down you can't use your controllers.
- If the website is down and you google around, you will learn there's an offline mode and find lots of "helpful" links to it on the MIJ forums. If you're not big on spotting circular logic: you wouldn't be looking for an offline mode if the MIJ website wasn't down, so being directed to the forums on the MIJ site for an offline mode is a slap in the face.
- Part of #2, MIJ is technically a trojan horse and can be used to install and execute anything the owner of the MIJ domain wants on your PC.
Oh, right, because there weren't any other options for the longest time.
Well thanks for the warning on that. I have two logitech devices: a mouse and a keyboard, both of which use the unifying receiver. Not going near a motion joy installation with a ten foot pole now.
motionjoy had been giving me BSODs non stop for the past few months. I just figured that out recently that it's the problem causing all of this shit. It takes extra steps to uninstall everything out too, I still have some leftovers in regedit that I have no way to delete them.
I have switched to http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-XInp...-USB-Dual-DS2-Controller?pid=281823#pid281823 too a few weeks ago, working good so far without the BSODs.
I have switched to http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-XInp...-USB-Dual-DS2-Controller?pid=281823#pid281823 too a few weeks ago, working good so far without the BSODs.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Is there a way to download the XInput Wrapper? It keeps stopping for me :/