King Mystery
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Damn. I wanted to post White piggu go home!
We had a discussion about this a while back. I don't think its an unreasonable comment that it is difficult to distinguish between people from South East Asia.
Well thats because China itself is very diverse. It is not too hard to tell the differences between someone from Beijing and someone from the south. You would have a harder time telling the difference between a Fujian Chinese and a Fujian Malaysia Chinese.
Easily. It's the hybrids that are a lot more difficult to identify; more often than not you'd consider them under the generalized "Asian" umbrella like you do in America.
And by hybrids I meant Asian mixes like Chinese-Korean, Japanese-Korean and Japanese-Chinese offspring.
The mainland Chinese look, for example, is very distinctive. Even in a country like Malaysia or Singapore which has a sizeable naturalised Chinese community, you can easily distinguish between a mainland Chinese student from China coming to study and a Malaysian or Singaporean Chinese citizen, born and bred in their respective nation. It's quite obvious.
I've been watching a lot of Japanese tokusatsu (live action SFX) shows lately, and I actually do find myself, when I first start a show, getting some of the characters mixed up. This isn't out of malice or any racial prejudice, I guess I'm just not good with faces.
I notice this happens more so with older shows though.
That's howaito, you baka gaijin. 白人帰れ!Damn. I wanted to post White piggu go home!
There were a lot of widely reported issues since then. Primarily the Korean president landing on the disputed islands and also saying that the current Emperor should apologize to Korea, etc。
I remember seeing a doc on North Korean supporters living in Japan. They have their own schools and their own way of life. They still hope NK will rise up and conquer Japan. They had detractors and nationalist groups protesting against them. Even then there was still support and protection from many Japanese residents who live around them. It was incredibly odd to know something like that existed in Japan.
Uploaded on Feb 10, 2010
Gaijin(foreigner)is so arrogant.
You foreigners can work at Japan, study and play.
but it's not your rights.
this is japan,our country.
not yours.
you are not a member of our society.
It's special special favor from us.
Please dont misunderstand it.
All foreigners must think about the importance of showing respect & gratitude for japan.
Surprisingly many foreigners have a mistaken sense of superiority that can push japanese people.
because we Japanese spoilt the foreigner too much.
we'll be only scoffed at by them.
Now,we need to say clearly to silly foreigners.
Remember your place!
BAKA GAIJIN!
thankyou
Them saying Koreans are preferred is freaking ridiculous. There are Korean families in Japan that have lived there for decades (if not a century) who still do not have Japanese citizenship because the gov't won't give it to them.
Can they even tell each other apart?
Not even if they're born there? That's a bit harsh.
Them saying Koreans are preferred is freaking ridiculous. There are Korean families in Japan that have lived there for decades (if not a century) who still do not have Japanese citizenship because the gov't won't give it to them.
I remember seeing a doc on North Korean supporters living in Japan. They have their own schools and their own way of life. They still hope NK will rise up and conquer Japan. They had detractors and nationalist groups protesting against them. Even then there was still support and protection from many Japanese residents who live around them. It was incredibly odd to know something like that existed in Japan.
Do you have any examples of this?
Knowing a few former "zainichi" who naturalized to Japan, they told me it wasn't particularly difficult. Just a bunch of paperwork and waiting. That's only anecdotal, though, so I don't know.
Also anecdotal, but I have heard that such Koreans who do decide to naturalize are often ostracized from their communities for becoming Japanese.
No. I don't have any first hand knowledge; but from my reading that it required many things (like the fact that they have to change their Korean names to a Japanese one). This might be a biased view coming from someone in America but it seems to be the requirements to become a citizens are high. The fact that a family who live in Japan for a decades and if they had a child, that child isn't automatically a Japanese citizen is just strange.
umm, what? are you just thinking about white Americans/Canadians now?
Cuz this is even more racist than the other poster's comment
I'm not talking about any race, I'm talking about countries. If an American came to Canada I wouldn't be able to tell what country he is from. Japan is different because it's an old country that doesnt see as much immigration, so I imagine they can tell the foreign people easily. America and Canada's culture isn't that different, but from what I understand Korea's and Japan's is different enough it would be hard for them to move there unnoticed.
Even though people have said there is a difference in physical features (and there often is), many Koreans and Chinese DO go unnoticed in Japan. Sometimes people don't even pick up on an accent. I'm not sure what you mean with regards to culture, but unless they visited the person's home I doubt it's something people would notice. There is a bit of a stereotype about Koreans and Chinese being rude/ blunt though, but if they can speak the language well enough to go unnoticed they've probably picked up on culture ques enough to know how to speak to Japanese people.
Well whatever the reason, be it physical or whatever, I don't think it's easier for Japanese people to know if you weren't born there than it would be for say Americans or Canadians. That was my point when he said "can they tell each other apart"
Least threatening racist protest ever. I couldn't help but burst out in laughter at them.
I believe they remain Korean until they decide to "naturalize" (even if they were born there) and change their name to something Japanese.Not even if they're born there? That's a bit harsh.
Fascinating. Being born after 83 I guess I can't complain anymore about how unfair it is that my sibling is English while I'm not.Nope. Most countries in the world don't have jus soli (being born in that country makes you a citizen). Even the most progressive European countries don't.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli
is this an outlier though, or more of a common occurrence?
I'm not talking about any race, I'm talking about countries. If an American came to Canada I wouldn't be able to tell what country he is from. Japan is different because it's an old country that doesnt see as much immigration, so I imagine they can tell the foreign people easily. America and Canada's culture isn't that different, but from what I understand Korea's and Japan's is different enough it would be hard for them to move there unnoticed.
Less than 0.75% of citizens in Nazi Germany were Jewish.It's weird that a group of people would blame a group that probably doesn't even make up 1 or 2% of Japan's total population for Japan's current economic confusion.
There were a lot of widely reported issues since then. Primarily the Korean president landing on the disputed islands and also saying that the current Emperor should apologize to Korea, etc。
Less than 0.75% of citizens in Nazi Germany were Jewish.
American:
Canadian:
As sickening as this is, I recently learned the extent to which this really is a very vocal minority. Anyone who has lived in Japan will have seen these guys driving around in big black Jeeps and whatnot blasting nationalistic bullshit out over megaphones. My lab head (or sensei if you prefer...) explained that most of those involved in these rallies are just young no-hopers and yakuza hired by politicians. If you were to actually stop these guys in the street and argue with them you wouldn't be likely to get the same response you would by stopping Neonazis in Europe. They would probably wet themselves and have no response.
Edit: She also told me that part of the whole reason the campaigns operate in this way, driving through areas known to have a high Korean presence, is because the different nationalities can't usually be told apart based on looks. Its a racism that has nothing to do with appearance and there's just these few idiots who hate the idea of 'clandestine' Koreans and Chinese living in 'their' country.
so if an asian-american comes to canada, you would assume he's american and not think he's from asia?
The whole thing is screwed up. Koreans who have been there for generations still don't have the right to vote despite paying taxes and have to deal with shit like this. It's absolutely insane.
I believe they remain Korean until they decide to "naturalize" (even if they were born there) and change their name to something Japanese.
What do Americans and Canadians look like?