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Xbox One: Details on Connectivity, Licensing (24 hour check-in) and Privacy Features

Raxus

Member
Basically? Yes:


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Hell it's even cheaper than used, and you don't have to deal with any shitty scratches.
Sad thing is that isn't even on sale for PC. Last year it went down to 12.50. Shit is craaaazy.
 

pargonta

Member
Third party publishers matter.
Sony can't ignore them, and they wouldn't even want to, they're not a charity.
They're in the game for the cash like Microsoft is.

what if they are not though? what if sony and nintendo are like f y'all, the video game industry is this way... how cool would that be.
 
He has a point and that is what scares me the most of all. If they fuck up then everyone feels the pinch

He doesn't have a point. Multiplayer gaming was an option with the original Xbox. If you want to play vs others, sure, requiring a broadband connection made sense.

If I'm playing Elder Scrolls by my lonesome, why the hell does it need to check my connection every 24 hrs?
 

quest

Not Banned from OT
How is Microsoft going to handle banning? The shittiest thing about Steam is you can lose access to all your games at their discretion. Usually this is only reserved for people who are obviously exploiting the system or issue chargebacks, but it is a real fear.. Would getting banned from Xbox Live for one reason or another mean I lose access to all my games I've bought?

Yes it would so if some kids lied about you saying bad things you lose everything. Since games are tied to the account can't get on XBL no games.
 

Warablo

Member
Don't know why people keep saying Sony is going to do the same thing when they have already confirmed the PS4 will never have to connect to the internet.

They could go the rfid thing, but it still wouldn't be as convoluted as all these MS policies.

Sony has only said you don't need a persistent internet connection.. Microsoft said the same thing before the reveal..

Hopefully Sony pulls through as our savior..

He doesn't have a point. Multiplayer gaming was an option with the original Xbox. If you want to play vs others, sure, requiring a broadband connection made sense.

If I'm playing Elder Scrolls by my lonesome, why the hell does it need to check my connection every 24 hrs?

I think the problem becomes physical media.. They wouldn't need to check online all the time if everything was all digital..
 

webkatt

Member
The worst part is that a large number of people will just "not care" and buy this piece of shit.

I can buy the xbone and be content but I will not. I refuse to support this bull
 

TAJ

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.

Probably ICS through a PC.
I've played FFXI that way. It worked great. Downloaded most of my Rock Band tracks that way, too.
 
T

thepotatoman

Unconfirmed Member
I don't see a problem with that. If you have one disc you can only lend it to one person while you can't play. I'd be ok with that.

The rest. Eh, I think I'm out MS.

Like a lot of this stuff, it's better than the absolute worst it could have been.

Problem is all of the positives about this were possible on the 360 too, just with a disk instead of a digital licence.

About the only advantage the Xbox One has over the 360 is not having to get up and put in the disk to play your games, and you can give your games to friends over the internet instead of through mail if they live far away.
 
He has a point and that is what scares me the most of all. If and/or when they fuck up then everyone feels the pinch

It's not 'the future'. It's Microsoft's warped vision of the future.
They are bending the industry to their own needs and demands and not catering to a consumer-lead progression. It is consumers that dictate market trends, not people in suits creating the ideal consumer to sell their all in one shit box to.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
Same here, end of console gaming for me if Sony does the same, no hyperbole, it's an easy choice.

fucking blame game, who the fuck are they going to blame when they realize that it's the industries own stupid business model that is costing them, not the used game market, needing to sell millions just to cover costs, it's ridiculous these days.

The whole industry needs to implode and reset imo.

but going PC only would be the same wouldn't it? All digital, no used games, no sharing at all.

prices are lower on steam etc, but i think retail will still provide that option on console if the digital stores don't.
 

Vamphuntr

Member
He doesn't have a point. Multiplayer gaming was an option with the original Xbox. If you want to play vs others, sure, requiring a broadband connection made sense.

If I'm playing Elder Scrolls by my lonesome, why the hell does it need to check my connection every 24 hrs?

It's probably DRM related. Since the game is installed and you play without the disc, it needs to check if it's still tied to your account.
 

Soler

Banned
Third party publishers matter.
Sony can't ignore them, and they wouldn't even want to, they're not a charity.
They're in the game for the cash like Microsoft is.

IF 3rd party publishers are pushing this, i can see Sony bending to it easily.

3rd parties won't strangle their sales just because they want less used games sales, thats ridiculous
I don't doubt 3rd parties being this stupid but it would be incredibly asinine to do so
 
Once again, 'Sony's going to do this too!' is not a better scenario, it's a worse one. Nobody wins in that scenario. Nobody.

And it doesn't suddenly turn Microsoft's decisions into good ones either. It just means 2 console makers made shitty decision.
 

Speevy

Banned
Remember when Xbox put a hard drive on their console! Now all the consoles have internal storage on them.

That's why you shouldn't be able to boot a game without internet. I'm also the dumbest person on the face of the planet.
 

IcyEyes

Member
The worst part is that a large number of people will just "not care" and buy this piece of shit.

I can buy the xbone and be content but I will not. I refuse to support this bull

I TOTALLY agree with you.

Please, don't support this kinda of "rules", or we will start to dig our own hole.
 
I get the impression you can have a shared list. A bunch of games you are done with that you are essentially lending out to "family." If you have five "family" members and five shared games each "family" member can play each shared game.

That would actually be a pretty damn neat feature. A silver lining to an otherwise terribly anti-consumer stance.


I'd take a "wait and see" on that one.

from the MS webpage

You can always play your games, and any one of your family members can be playing from your shared library at a given time.

It sounds like one member of your family would have access to those 5 games at a given time. Your way sounds too fair, I wouldn't pin my hopes on that.
 
Like a lot of this stuff, it's better than the absolute worst it could have been.

Problem is all of the positives about this were possible on the 360 too, just with a disk instead of a digital licence.

About the only advantage the Xbox One has over the 360 is not having to get up and put in the disk to play your games, and you can give your games to friends over the internet instead of through mail if they live far away.

Yeah. That's a really good point. While you can now lend games to "family" through the web it comes at the sacrifice of a whole lot. Too much. Especially when I can still lend my discs out.
 
I've seen a few people on gaf saying they buy a game for $60, play or complete it quickly the sell it back too gamestop for $50. Can anyone confirm this?

Never sold a game but my friends who did would always sell a stack of games and get store credit for £20 or less.
 

chixdiggit

Member
I use Steam daily as my main "gaming platform" and have no issues with it, never used offline mode either. So how is in practise this compared to Steam?

Because 10 years from now I will still be able to play Half Life on whatever PC I might have at the time. But I won't be able to play Forza 5 on a new Xbox.
 

Kazerei

Banned
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I really hope the Xbox One fails. Normally I wish for all platforms to be successful, because more competition is supposed to be better for consumers. Yet somehow, after a generation of three strong home console platforms, we're going backwards on consumer rights. Fuck this shit, I hope it dies.
 

dkeane

Member
So what's to stop them from using Kinect to flag certain keywords — swears, n-word, c-word, fuck etc — and ban a persons account, which would lock them from accessing their game library?
 

KaYotiX

Banned
Always online, millions of PC users can't be wrong. Need a Internet connection to Dl games off steam.

I think everyone is just blowing it out of proportion
 
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