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All these 1080p/60fps PS4/Xbone announcements feel so unreal

Zabant

Zabant

Member
PC will lead the way in 4k. This will be the reason to own a gaming PC.

for the moment though, i'll probably doing most my gaming on PS4.
 
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Dawg

Member
GarthVaderUK said:
Can we get a list going in here? Would be nice to see which games are doing this.

I know Forza 5 is one...

Halo is going to be 60fps, as is Killer Instinct, don't know what resolution they're at though....
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I've heard Battlefield 4 is 1080p/60fps + 64 players. That's pretty amazing.
 
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Chris_C

Member
I love it. So many folks argued that we wouldn't see stuff better than Crysis 3, but a look at tech demos like The Dark Sorcerer, The Order 1886, and Quantum Break look incredible.

Also, I'm looking forward to the benefit of downsampling the 1080p signal on my 720p TV, and on the Vita screen, hoping it'll eliminate the sub-pixel crawl (which isn't a big deal, and much preferred to anti-aliasing anyway).
 
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Erasus

Member
Kyon said:
Even Wii U I believe all games shown were 1080/60.

This is good for everyone. No one can complain as much anymore. Grfx ppl like me get the grfx, FPS people get their 60 FPS everyone wins.
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X was 1080p/60?? I doubt that.

But yes, real good announcments.

1080p is amazing especially sitting close like on PC
 
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Felix Lighter

Member
bangai-o said:
next year devs will start adding special effects and super graphics, saying goodbye to 60fps+ 1080p.
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That could very well be the case unfortunately. Current gen consoles hit a sweet spot in like 2010 and then it seemed like a lot of devs started trying to get more out of the machines than they were capable of, sacrificing IQ and framerate.
 
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Rogue_Ledr

Banned
Definitely a step in the right direction.

I'm still a bit puzzled if the 1080P is mostly just upscaled 1080P or actual 1080P.
 
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cobragt4001

Banned
Can we get a list of 1080p/60fps games? I mean killzone sf looks great but nothing beyond what the pc has and that isn't 60fps.
 
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Uno Venova

Banned
The expectations were so low going into this gen, 8 GB was crazy and every dev was going to strive for 720p standard and 30fps to get the absolute best fidelity possible. So glad these didn't turn out to be true.
 
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funkystudent

Member
Is Battlefield 4 going to be 1080p on consoles as well as 60fps? If so thats impressive.


Anyway I would not be shocked if a lot of these games have a veritable resolution like some games already have this gen.
 
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plagiarize

Banned
upJTboogie said:
The expectations were so low going into this gen, 8 GB was crazy and every dev was going to strive for 720p standard and 30fps to get the absolute best fidelity possible. So glad these didn't turn out to be true.
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yep! i'm very happy with how much is going to be 1080 and 60.
 
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hateradio

The Most Dangerous Yes Man
Dawg said:
I know you're probably joking, but I feel like the difference between 4k or 120hz and 60fps/1080p isn't as big as this gen's 720p/30fps and PC's 1080p/60fps.
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I understand what you're saying. Sub-HD or 720p as de-facto HD format for consoles was a sharp contrast to 1080p with 60FPS on a PC.

But it will matter eventually, once 4K TV/monitors become standard. These consoles will just stretch/scale the picture on your new TV.

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Also, higher refresh rates like 120 and up are still unprecedented on consoles.
 
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Exuro

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GarthVaderUK said:
Oh and Assassin's Creed 4!
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I'm honestly not seeing what's so amazing. These are cross gen games. Porting a ps3/360 game and upping some graphical effects and increasing the iq/fps sounds pretty normal. idk I just expected this.

I'll be impressed if this holds, but I can't help but see this just being for launch games.
 
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kinggroin

Banned
The fuck is everyone getting their intel from? I mean, concrete evidence; not hearsay.


If Assassin's Creed is native 1080p and 60fps, I'm selling my fucking PC.
 
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orioto

Good Art™
RoboPlato said:
I am also shocked. This combined with the emphasis on destruction, physics, animation, and less linear design has made me incredibly excited for next gen.

Partial list for those who don't know:
BF4
AC4
CoD: Ghosts
All sports games
Halo 5
TitanFall
Forza 5

Mostly cross gen stuff but it's still nice.
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But that's where the trick is. Those games don't push the new machines so they can shine with their framerate.
 
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Lulubop

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Where was the 1080p thing confirmed for battlefield? I just see 60 fps mention in the press release.

So two games, Forza and Ass Creed (Which might be a multiplayer thing) are suddenly a ton of games? Very confused here.
 
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nasos_333

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I guess to get graphics like those in Sorcerer PS4 tech demo, for open world games, will need to drop to 30fps/1080p

But that will also be fine by me, the fact that PS4 can actually run such graphics at all in 1080p is a miracle right there

I can certainly accept getting such visuals in a big world at 1080p and "only" 30fps
 
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Htown

STOP SHITTING ON MY MOTHER'S HEADSTONE
Don't get used to it.

This is pretty much just for launch games that are basically generation-straddling titles that are coming out on 360/PS3. They then give the next-gen version a slight visual bump and emphasize framerate instead of detail. This will end once the hardware transition is done.
 
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sn00zer

Member
Dawg said:
I know you're probably joking, but I feel like the difference between 4k or 120hz and 60fps/1080p isn't as big as this gen's 720p/30fps and PC's 1080p/60fps.
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This is very true...and there is no way in hell im buying anything more than a 1080p tv
 
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Lulubop

Member
No mention of Halo 5's resolution was giving, just that it would be 60fps. Come on. People are hearing what they want to hear.
 
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cobragt4001

Banned
sn00zer said:
If 1080p 60fps becomes standard, I dont see a reason for buying a gaming PC

EDIT: I meant primarily spending money on an expensive GPU
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Well it boils down to preference in KB/mouse and cheaper games and free online service and the ability to advance your system when you're ready to. Graphically pc will always be on top with more graphical options for max visual quality.

What needs to be understood here is before people start saying *no need for pc* we need to see if and how many cut backs are made to multiplatform games to achieve 60fps and a res of 1080p. I know BF4 will be 60fps and 1080p on consoles but what has been gimped to do so?

And for people who enjoy the best visuals possible there's always the option for 2560x1660 which I believe the next gpus won't have a problem handling.
 
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RoboPlato

I'd be in the dick
orioto said:
But that's where the trick is. Those games don't push the new machines so they can shine with their framerate.
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It sets a nice precedent for next gen expectations, at least. If people get used to 60 in the early iterations, they're not going to want to lose it later on.
 
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Barack Lesnar

Banned
sn00zer said:
If 1080p 60fps becomes standard, I dont see a reason for buying a gaming PC
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EatinOlives said:
All those people yelling "YOU ARE DELUSIONAL IF YOU EXPECT 1080P AND 60 FPS" at this time last year and stuff crow up their faces so hard their eyes pop out.

Their prediction of no 1080p/60 FPS didn't bother me as much as their smug sense of "I'M RIGHT, AND I HAVE NO REASON TO BELIEVE I'M RIGHT BUT I'M RIGHT" BS.
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J1SSL3R said:
1080p/60fps was a large selling point for me, being a PC gamer mostly.

60fps is just so important to the play for me. I fully welcome the next gen console.
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sn00zer said:
Nvidia and AMD are going to have a real hard time justifying graphics cards more expensive than consoles if you get 1080 with solid fps on consoles
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This is what I've been saying for weeks now, probably months. It's great news.

hateradio said:
I understand what you're saying. Sub-HD or 720p as de-facto HD format for consoles was a sharp contrast to 1080p with 60FPS on a PC.

But it will matter eventually, once 4K TV/monitors become standard. These consoles will just stretch/scale the picture on your new TV.

http://i.imgur.com/BEG2y6x.png


Also, higher refresh rates like 120 and up are still unprecedented on consoles.
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4k as a standard is so far out, like 5+ years, that it's not even worth mentioning. And the requirements to run next-gen games at 4k and 60 fps (or even 30) will be completely bonkers. It's just too far out to care right now.
 
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Quicksilver4648

Member
Hopefully enough people get to experience and really like 1080p/60fps in games so that developers in the future prioritize this before simply thinking, "meh, 1080p/30 or 900p/60 is alright with/unnoticeable to most gamers." However, it is VERY good knowing that 720p/30fps is essentially a dead combination now, well except for on the Wii U.

Edit: When it comes to 4k support it will either be there day 1 or patched in soon after launch but intimately be restricted to just media. Unless a developer wants to bring 4k support to something like Pac-Man I don't think these consoles have it in them without catching fire. But, I don't see why they couldn't play a 4k downloaded movie. I think the download size would be a bigger issue than hardware powerful enough to push it to the screen.
 
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Sandfox

Member
1080p and 60fps is cool but I wonder how far into the gen that's going to last.

Also, PC has other benefits besides that to make it worthwhile just like consoles do.
 
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RoboPlato

I'd be in the dick
Ra1den said:
MGS5 is cross gen. 60 FPS possible?
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Possible but I'm not counting on it yet. They did a lot of performance capture and MGS cutscenes tend to be real time. If they didn't do the performance capture at 60 then the game probably won't be, even if it's do able.
 
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SapientWolf

Trucker Sexologist
AllIsOneIsNone said:
Multiplayer shooters may try to keep that mark...you know, cause Call of Duty did it.
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You also might see people complain that a 30fps sequel doesn't feel right, even if they don't know what a framerate is. Traditional fighting games are stuck with 60fps partly because of that.
 
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jonscrambler

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sn00zer said:
If 1080p 60fps becomes standard, I dont see a reason for buying a gaming PC

EDIT: I meant primarily spending money on an expensive GPU
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we are 5 month+ away from the beginning of the new console generation where the new consoles are about on par to today's mid range gaming PCs specs-wise, so not surprisingly their capabilities are very similar. But that will change, next year GPUs will have GDDR6, DDR4 will replace DDR3, and the difference will get bigger and bigger every year. 1440p displays are already not that expensive (and many PC games already support it), and 2160p (4k) will only come down in price .

Besides right now you can play Far Cry 3, BF3, Metro Last Light, etc in 1080p/60fps on PCs, can PS4 do that? not unless they remade these games for PS4 (and you have to pay for them again, ie a "Ultra HD" edition).
 
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