CambriaRising
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I don't know if people think it is a negative so much as they just don't think it is that big of a deal.
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Microsoft Confirms 53MHz GPU Speed Upgrade For Xbox One
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I don't know if people think it is a negative so much as they just don't think it is that big of a deal.
Well that's basically impossible as there are lots of Computer Scientists and IT Specialists that love Games...
Considering these consoles draw no where near as much power as the last consoles at the beginning of their cycle and also the fact that MS wouldn't want another billion dollar incident, I think they're fine.
SEGAvangelist
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Just get what you want. In your case, If you mainly play third party games, don't own a gaming PC, and don't care about motion controls then PS4 is the better value.
If you like MS console exclusives, enjoy Kinect, are interested in the app and save state features of the Xbox Live ecosystem, like your friends list, have years left on your Live gold sub, own a gaming PC for third party non-exclusive games (most of them), and like the controller, then get the Xbox One. It doesn't mean you can't get either console later on down the road.
SenjutsuSage
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What's good about this is we can now finally put to rest any talks of a downclock, and, of course, more is always better. Nothing earth shattering, but better than nothing.
Should put into perspective now the sources that pounced on a downclock like it actually happened or was some kind of done deal. There's a certain thread that should be a particularly fun read now.
Should put into perspective now the sources that pounced on a downclock like it actually happened or was some kind of done deal. There's a certain thread that should be a particularly fun read now.
BibiMaghoo
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Hang on just a minute...
Did Nelson not confirm a handful of weeks back that there would be no upclock? Like, as in outright dismiss it?
And they have done it anyway? (although not as much as originally rumoured)
If that is the case, no one should ever turn to him for answers or comment.
Did Nelson not confirm a handful of weeks back that there would be no upclock? Like, as in outright dismiss it?
And they have done it anyway? (although not as much as originally rumoured)
If that is the case, no one should ever turn to him for answers or comment.
"an example of that is we've tweaked up the clock speed on our GPU from 800mhz to 853mhz."
Try again
If you think I'm trolling, try again. I just assumed they didn't mention the clock speed. Either way, I could care less, it's still worse than the pcs or ps4. I could really care less. I've already made up my mind on which one I'm buying and even if the Xbox was more powerful, I still wouldn't buy it. I've learnt my lesson. fool me once, shame on you and I will not be fooled twice.
Latvian Hitman
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Yep. Both consoles are moving from having to cool two chips to just one, and power draw is considerably lower as you say. Heat/noise should be a non-factor compared to last gen for both consoles.
The PS4 is 3 Wii Us more powerful than the Xbox One.
Niteandgrey
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I would remind you that the big differentiator for a lot of us is that Microsoft tried to turn the gaming industry upside down and bend us all over in the process. I have little doubt that the Xbone will be a good system, but I have a long memory and there's zero chance that I'm going to reward Microsoft with my money after they made it clear what they really think of us.
Dead Prince
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probably going to release the 1GB of ram in reserve. after they give us 12GB GDDR5.
SEGAvangelist
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I seriously doubt the overlock is some random number.
Cornbread78
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as long as this helps multi plats, I'm all for it.
ethomaz
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My mistake... sorry... MS said the old clock was 800Mhz in the interview.
And while they are at it, they might as well ask 30 fps locks for the PC versions!
No, as a publisher I wouldn't try to step on Sony's toes coming generation.
The 53MHz speed upgrade, albeit very small, may help developers and prevent some games dipping in the low 20's at intensive moments so yeay.
Really? I don't remember this. My memory of Kinect was that it was a peripheral that I never bothered with and which made zero impact on my gaming world.
If this were true, and you sincerely withhold money from companies that seem like they're just out to get your money, you wouldn't give money to any company ever, not least of whom Sony.
Vestal
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ms has a lot more wiggle room in regards to this since their console design is more cooling friendly given its size compared to the ps4.
lets not bring up rrod since that was more caused by an issue with the solder and was corrected aka lesson learned.
SenjutsuSage
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What the hell, me, too lol.
We bought it from Nobody Beats The Wiz for like $2996.96. I never forgot the total price for some reason.
The bandwidth of the ESRAM is based on the GPU clock, so there will be a few extra GB/s on there, like ~110GB/s or so (to lazy to do the exact math on phone).
It isn't. It's most likely the farthest they can push the chip within a safe zone without running into potential issues that could cause chips to fail.
iamshadowlark
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Not bad MS. Only wish they did this earlier but beggars and choosers and whatnot.
RoadHazard
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Eh, he's clearly not talking about Kinect, but about DRM, always online, no game trading/lending/etc, and just doing everything in their power to f*ck their customers over and take away consumer rights. That's what they wanted to do, and they still do. They just had no choice but to backtrack after the historical backlash and low pre-order numbers it caused.
Relaxed Muscle
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Why I get the feeling that every PR message is just now a "me too" from MS?.
Sony makes a big deal about being easy to program and how they can code "to the metal" and now MS says "me too"-
They dismissed graphical capabilities for months and now they make a big deal for a 6% more speed for the GPU.
I don't meant that those things wasn't planned for months, honestly I don't know, and it's a good thing to acknowledge that your message was wrong before it's too late, but is quite funny to see all those 180 turns.
Sony makes a big deal about being easy to program and how they can code "to the metal" and now MS says "me too"-
They dismissed graphical capabilities for months and now they make a big deal for a 6% more speed for the GPU.
I don't meant that those things wasn't planned for months, honestly I don't know, and it's a good thing to acknowledge that your message was wrong before it's too late, but is quite funny to see all those 180 turns.
But how many more gamecubes is that? That's the real question here!
Huh, yeah, you're right, sorry I'm not sure why I thought it was referring to Kinect. I guess crossed wires from another post.
ethomaz
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Mashin Haters
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well hey we dont want any RROD now do we......i say just keep as it is now anything thats going to make the system more hotter is worse
TheRagnCajun
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But how many gameboys more powerfull?
PanicFreak
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Have you ever played a Gflop?
OT: 53mhz is not news worthy.
SneakyStephan
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Gemüsepizza;74407503 said:
Right, I forgot about the magical console optimisation that makes all the console games run twice as well.
Let's ignore the fact that every game that formerly ran on a gtx 680 and an intel quad core got a massive massive downgrade once they had to run on ps4 hardware.
Or that something like a hd4850 which is theoretically 4x faster than an xbox 360 gpu does indeed run games like batman:AA, dmc, dirt 2-3, dead space 1- 2 ,l4d, portal 2 etc at 4x the framerate with 16x AF as a free bonus.
But still people believe otherwise, because? They want to/need to I suppose.
I guess Microsoft is using Sony's very own "Me Too" PR strategy that they have been using for years to counter Nintendo and Microsoft against them for a change.
SEGAvangelist
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What if it were a downclock?
CEO Kaz Hirai ‏@KazHiraiCEO 3m
Xbox One’s GPU is now a massive 53Mhz faster. MS also say the console is 0.001mm thinner and the controller battery lasts 3 seconds longer!
Wow, this is too funny. Best twitter poster ever.
U guys crazy. :lol
Kazuma Kiryu
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Like what you're doing?
Really not sure why people are moaning? Improvements are good! If MS can improve their software over time to increase a systems ability, then that would be great. Happens all the time for PC graphics and other software, so why should consoles be ignored? Of course you can only tweak the software so far before you run into issues.
Taking out the mandatory Kinect would be like removing the Wiimote from the Wii.
Not remotely. Did you see me equate it to some defined factor? No you did not.
These x/ more or x % more is where the nonsense begins and ends,
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