TreasureHunterG
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No one?
C'mon, there's a lot of people who wants Nintendo to fail, no matter how hard they try to say otherwise.
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Factory responsible for Wii U eDram to close within 2-3 years
- Thread starter SmokyDave
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No one?
C'mon, there's a lot of people who wants Nintendo to fail, no matter how hard they try to say otherwise.
Ayup.
Mango The Magician
Banned
So is this even news or is Gaf just gafin?
Seemed like it but then I don't know much about manufacturing. I remember the 8GB drive in the OG Xbox giving Microsoft some trouble. I also don't know how long it takes to produc this sort of stuff in large volumes.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
While this is far from Nintendodoomed, its a bit of a stretch to say this doesnt effect hardware revisions and reducing manfacturing costs in the the way sony and Microsoft must be planning with their respective consoles.
The Wii U is quite small, but maybe this news means that a WiiU slim is less likely.
The Wii U is quite small, but maybe this news means that a WiiU slim is less likely.
Majmun
Member
It isn't?
A factory that has to shut down thanks to Wii U's terrible performance sounds pretty bad to me...
maniac-kun
Member
Nintendos next console should drop the name Wii. I guess a lot of casuals dont even know the Wii U is a new console.
R_thanatos
Member
wow @ this news ...i ....just want to play bayonneta 2 , nothing else.
Don't die before that wiiU , please!!
Don't die before that wiiU , please!!
Not really. This happens with other consoles and products. Nintendo owns the design (or bought a license to a pre-made one), they just have it manufactured by the lowest bidder.
Aquamarine
Member
If Renesas wasn't struggling to stay afloat, this wouldn't have happened.
God as trollish and horrible as that sounds, I was thinking the exact same thing.
You meant respective right?
Well from what we know of Nintendo their focus is not on making the most powerful hardware but rather on
Their exclusives
Trying to innovate with new hardware concepts (3d motion control asymmetrical gaming)
So I don't see why they should stay in sync with ms and Sony and their current 8 year cycles.
They could possibly position themselves in 4 5 year console cycle and be a sort of middle ground between mobile and ms/Sony approach.
I don't see the harm in that . I understand that the situation is more complex and there are many factors in play . But I for one would be totally fine with considering a Nintendo console as a secondary/seperate buy on a different timeframe. It's when it comes down to hardware muscle and console launch comparisons that they lose out.
EDIT
Focus on Nintendo core and casuals . Plus what they can pull from general gamers. They've already lost the cod crowd and massive 3rd party support.
Their exclusives
Trying to innovate with new hardware concepts (3d motion control asymmetrical gaming)
So I don't see why they should stay in sync with ms and Sony and their current 8 year cycles.
They could possibly position themselves in 4 5 year console cycle and be a sort of middle ground between mobile and ms/Sony approach.
I don't see the harm in that . I understand that the situation is more complex and there are many factors in play . But I for one would be totally fine with considering a Nintendo console as a secondary/seperate buy on a different timeframe. It's when it comes down to hardware muscle and console launch comparisons that they lose out.
EDIT
Focus on Nintendo core and casuals . Plus what they can pull from general gamers. They've already lost the cod crowd and massive 3rd party support.
not_so_special
Banned
the three of them
eddfromtheriver
Banned
Except it doesn't seem to be working out for them that well this time now... is it?
It doesn't yet...I'm hoping they can turn it around enough. Sony and MS might be bullies with no Nintendo to undercut them. Which is where they took things. Nintendo didn't really have a chance to compete with Sony and MS on the technology front, people get mad at Iwata for that but I don't think there was another way. Obviously it gets less and less appealing to the hardcore. I think they realised that.
I think they cheaped out (or focussed on energy saving...) a little too much with the Wii U, hopefully good ads still work in this economy and they can get some more features in.
So the way I see it it's partly because of the one year gap. If they launched their next console 2 or more years before the competitors they could take advantage of generation fatigue and start establishing themselves as a seperate cycle ... People still clump wii u with xbone and ps4 and that's where the limitations show ... If you think of it as a ps3.5 with Nintendo games its more appealing atleast to me .... But yeah also like I said price and lack of games are other factors currently holding it back
Shalashaska161
Member
4 year generation confirmed then. Especially if Nintendo can't turn the thing around and get it to start selling.
They would need to be preparing that console now. You can't discontinue your console and not have something in place to take over for it. Also, the XB1 and PS4 will both be around for 8 years before they get replaced, just like this gen.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Renesas shouldn't have agreed to nintendo stock.
Hale-XF11
Member
The only problem I see with that is I think most consumers would rather get more life than that out of a $300+ console. It might cause them to think twice about investing in yet another Nintendo console, knowing it might only have a few years of support at best.
Meus Renaissance
Member
This image gets me everytime
Duxxy3
Member
That would be the case if people actually owned the system. If the next system is a hit, people will forget the Wii U even existed.
Hale-XF11
Member
Even as someone who didn't buy the Wii U, I would still be very cautious, especially in the case of a console's lifespan being cut short because of poor reception.
Well didn't they start working on Wii U in 2007? They'll most likely start on next gen soon if they haven't already, and they will take this news and the current problems in mind.
Aquamarine
Member
It is worrisome that an abridged generation ala. Game Boy Color might cause some resentment, considering the Wii U is supposed to be Nintendo's flagship console.
But it would allow Nintendo an easy exit from a Wii U disaster without incurring too much total losses. The strategy would be more viable if Nintendo was planning on fully consolidating their handheld and console teams into one device in the 9th gen.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
yep. got my words mixed up.
Aquamarine
Member
There is absolutely no doubt that Nintendo is currently scouting out designs for their 9th generation plans.
But most of their decision-making will be reactionary...that is, in response to the success of the Wii U and the 3DS.
Hooflung128
Banned
I think no one who understands the situation in tech is thinking the factory will close. It is just that the way they get the memory on the chip is done with a NEC process that may not be able to be sold to TSMC who would be buying the fab. Thus, the wii u Bits can no longer be made the same way and r & d will have to be spent to refactor for new process while keeping 100% compatibility. That is the real news here, oh and the fact that this factory put too many eggs into one basket.
...and start porting their games to other consoles. Possibly to the highest bidder (probably M$).
In theory I'd love to see Nintendo as a third party developer. Unfortunately, we all saw what happened to Sega...
Their return to 2D style games has really gotten me interested in them again.
Don't start this ridiculous (and incorrect) argument again.
Never going to happen, and a horrible idea. Nintendo might like to whore out their IPs, but they're still heavily concerned with quality and maintaining their brand.
weevles
Member
I don't think this is really useful news to consumers. All that backend supply chain stuff should be transparent as far as anyone buying a WiiU now or in the near future is concerned. It's certainly not going to make anyone buy or not buy a Wii U this holiday. Unless you were specifically an investor or someone with a direct connection to that factory, it's neither here nor there to gamers here.
There really isn't anything indicating this will happen. It's more likely they last the usual 5-6 years.
Wickerbasket
Member
Can't they just stock up on the parts if they need to? It seems like they have plenty of time to plan for change.
By the time the factory has stopped producing the eDram Nintendo might even have sold through their initial Wii U shipment.
By the time the factory has stopped producing the eDram Nintendo might even have sold through their initial Wii U shipment.
OG_Original Gamer
Member
Talk about a recipe for IP destruction.
You really think price is the problem? Nobody wants a Wii U. No games + outdated hardware = death.
This is an almost unbelievable level of failure from a company that's been more or less king of the hill for decades.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Fixed.