bigboss370
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i-is that...the same kid? O_O
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Guerilla: Killzone: Shadow Fall's multiplayer is 60 FPS, singleplayer is 30 FPS
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i-is that...the same kid? O_O
Wickerbasket
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No splitscreen multiplayer?
Does that mean there's no local coop either?
Does that mean there's no local coop either?
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Yeah, he works at Sony now
LOL this is big. Like Mario bushes as clouds big!
That dude even has the most awesome name ever conceived. Brent Rambo. Damn, I wish I could change my name.
Betta Lines
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HAHAHAHA. That is awesome!
ShellyDeKiller
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They'll downgrade the graphics in MP
Hidden One
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Anyone have that gif of Kaz when hes in a storm cloud laughing?
SniperHunter
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Planetside is not a fun game atm. It might be fun by this time next year....
I would take Warhawk 2.0 over PS2
bigboss370
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They also have much bigger environments in SP and around 60 AI characters in some scenes.
HOLY SHIT WOW!!!!!
Wow.
MagicWithEarvin
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well the MP has everything unlocked from the get go with MP based challenges you can complete + all MP DLC maps will be free for everyone
GG's has come out swinging this Gamescom
Not to mention KZ Merc being so damn good in the beta
Wickerbasket
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I'm of the opinion that Planetside 2 is a ton of fun in a squad; the core gameplay is great.
The only thing it's missing is an overarching goal, as it kind of feels like defending and taking over compounds is ultimately useless.
I've never understood your position on Planetside 2. You seem to compare every FPS to it but you don't seem to like the game either.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
I'm ok with this
EightBitNate
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Is there a playable demo on the show floor at Gamescom? If so, are there any videos?
There is but there's been no footage. I have no idea why.
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Deleted member 80556
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Man, and since they said that the weighty feel is back, what excuse will the "input lag" people will have?!
This is great news. Let the SP be a 'wow' factor for people who like it and let the MP be as fluid as possible.
This is one of the biggest wows I've ever done. Damn!
This is great news. Let the SP be a 'wow' factor for people who like it and let the MP be as fluid as possible.
60fps in multiplayer confiirmed then.
Nice.
Yeah, he works at Sony now
This is one of the biggest wows I've ever done. Damn!
shinobi602
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Holy shit at the kid lol.
Anyway, shouldn't the title say 'targeting 60fps'? At least I didn't see them confirm 60fps in the OP anywhere...
Anyway, shouldn't the title say 'targeting 60fps'? At least I didn't see them confirm 60fps in the OP anywhere...
abstract alien
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What in the actual fuck o.o
BadAss2961
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That article is mainly about input lag measuring, and giving props to the low latency of 60fps games. Killzone 2 actually has about an average amount of input lag for a 30fps game. The article even says that 100ms is the "potential" minimum for 30fps, while Killzone 2 sits at 150ms, GTAIV at 166ms, and Heavenly Sword at a dramatic 300ms. That's all the examples they give.
The problem is that a lot of people confuse Killzone 2's slower acceleration with input lag. I don't remember it clearly, but I think heavier weapons like rocket launchers added even more weight and made turning even slower.
Mirror's Edge is a good example of a first-person game with weight. The main character can turn pretty fast in that game, but the heavier the gun she picks up, the slower her acceleration becomes. Killzone 2 had a similar feeling of weight and heaviness to its controls to add to its realism. A huge contrast from series like CoD that have absolutely no weight and let you spin around like it's nothing.
The developer's quote in the OP says they're aiming for 60fps, but he didn't say it would be locked. In most cases, we assume that would mean a locked 60fps, but we have footage of the game running at an unlocked framerate that's up and down. So i'll play it safe and assume that's the way it'll run until Guerrilla says otherwise, or I see it for myself.
I'm just keeping expectations in check really.
Is this correct? I wasn't paying as much attention as I should have, but from the GC MP trailer, the impression I got was that you would unlock some kind of points by completing different challenges, points you would spend to unlock stuff (as per usual). Maybe I dreamt that up, but it seems a fairly radical departure for a contemporary MP shooter to throw out the whole unlock/progression system..?
Frostinferno
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Rogue_Ledr
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The MP screenshots they showed didnt look downgraded at all.
They looked better than some of the SP screenshots we've seen.
hmm maybe I misunderstood it then. Pretty sure all the guns are unlocked from the get go for MP tho.
Can someone clarify?
TimeEffect
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You unlock abilities and attachments for your guns but all guns are unlocked
Right, thanks for clearing that up TimeEffect! Sounds like a good compromise - it's kinda silly, but if absolutely everything was unlocked from the start the game would probably have less legs for me.
LostInNoise
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Stuff like Goldeneye and Halo 2 didn't have unlockables and I put more time into those than I have in any modern day FPS. To me it's all about the actual gameplay. To each his own
TimeEffect
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I'm hoping the legs come from the modes, maps, and straight up competitive gameplay.
I'm actually a little upset that they locked away abilities and attachments and would rather that they made those challenges contribute towards various permanent badges on your profile (like in Counter Strike GO).
I'm incredibly worried about attachments like incendiary rounds and grenade launchers, but I appreciate the unlocked guns.
SirMossyBloke
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Everything I hear about this game just makes me want it. Amazing graphics, free MP maps, and now 60fps in multi. However the game just looks sao damned boring .. I hope some more footage as the weeks go on shows something a bit more interesting.
.. I hope some more footage as the weeks go on shows something a bit more interesting.
Boss Man
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I hope it becomes a trend honestly. I don't think it's realistic to aim for 60 FPS with everything, or maybe even the best choice for most games. I'll take a nicer looking game with more effects for campaigns, and then more responsiveness for competitive play.Single Player 30fps, Multiplayer 60fps . . .
Wise choice. This is also how I play Crysis 3.
Gamespawn
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Stuff like Goldeneye and Halo 2 didn't have unlockables and I put more time into those than I have in any modern day FPS. To me it's all about the actual gameplay. To each his own
I thought Goldeneye had stuff like characters and weapons that were unlockable?
ChronotriggerJM
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30FPS single player will let them utilize the ram better. 60FPS bottlenecks ram based on it's frequency.
Yeah, I remember those times as well, and I'm not saying the current way of doing things is objectively better (in fact it's probably objectively worse), but the unlock progression system is a psychologically powerful hook. If there was nothing like it in a big MP shooter like KZ the change would probably be a bit jarring to a lot of people now used to this way of doing things.Stuff like Goldeneye and Halo 2 didn't have unlockables and I put more time into those than I have in any modern day FPS. To me it's all about the actual gameplay. To each his own
Allonym
There should be more tampons in gaming
What does that say of the single player for the next time that we sit it demoed? Pants will be crapped. The game will likely end up surpassing it's model renderings, which the mp looks on par with already. It's just insane what we are witnessing
Agreed. I like being immersed in SP games and sometimes more eye candy can add to that. No one is really ever immersed or caring all that much about visuals in SP, let that be as responsive as possible. 60fps for all console games is a tall order that's just setting up for disappointment but 60fps for MP can definitely happen. I think we'll see more games follow suit, at least from Sony's first party.
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