• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Hey, how come Sony didn't invest in any big 3rd party exclusives?

Better off investing in 1th and 2nd party games.

Dead Rising 3 is a weird one though. I would say its more of a 2nd party thing at this point. Seems MS care more about the IP then Capcom does. If it wasn't for MS it probably would have died along with the rest of Inafune's capcom projects.
 

KoopaTheCasual

Junior Member
Xbox One is getting DR3, RYSE, Titanfall and that Insomniac game exclusively. Sony has a lot of good games too, but nothing exclusive from 3rd parties. Seems like Sony invested a lot of money into smaller indie games but most people don't care about those.

Why couldn't they just get 1 or 2 exclusive 3rd parties? They are good with Ubisoft maybe they should have paid them more to get Watch Dogs to release early on the PS4.

Besides investing in their own studios, Deep Down looks like it's exactly what you're asking for. Seems like it's going to be a timed exclusive just like Titanfall. However, online play is a huge turn off for me.
 
Because to "invest" in 3rd party publishers you open your wallet. To invest in indies you have an open self-publishing platform. Sony went with the latter.
 

Skeff

Member
Because 3rd Party exclusives don't last, see Mass Effect and Bioshock.

Because 1st Party exclusives do last see GT and Uncharted.

This is particularly important when you cite Titanfall as one of these 3rd party exclusives ;-)
 

Bundy

Banned
Xbox One is getting DR3, RYSE, Titanfall and that Insomniac game exclusively. Sony has a lot of good games too, but nothing exclusive from 3rd parties.

Why couldn't they just get 1 or 2 exclusive 3rd parties? They are good with Ubisoft maybe they should have paid them more to get Watch Dogs to release early on the PS4.
SONY has a lot of amazing 1st Party Studios. They don't have to moneyhat 3rd parties.
MS had to moneyhat 3rd parties.

Seems like Sony invested a lot of money into smaller indie games but most people don't care about those.
Speak for yourself, please!
 
yea probably money issues. Sony' couldn't even money hat Final Fantasy XV or Kingdom Hearts 3....

the company has been struggling for years

Why the hell would Sony money hat a game that going to sell most on there system anyway.
Xbone is DOA in Japan and they going to win Europe .
It's better to spend that money on 1st party software if SE was asking to much .
 

Averon

Member
Their first party studios make money-hatting exclusive an enormous waste of money, especially when 98% of third party games will come to the PS4 anyway and sell like they were an exclusive to the PS4 already (MGS, Final Fantasy, etc...). Investing in their own studios also mean there's no risk of IPs "jumping ship" since they own them. Remember during the first two years of this gen, with all the popular IPs (DMC, FF, etc...) that were once strongly associated with Sony "jumping ship" to the Xbox? I doubt Sony would want to experience that again.
 

Vitanimus

Member
I think we'll see some occur "naturally" within a few years of the PS4 being on sale, especially in regions like Japan where the Xbox One isn't expected to make any big waves. Developers will flock to where the sales are.
 
Yeah, because that means we get Driveclub and Knack at launch. :(

It's all a matter of perspective.

I know you think Sony's mismanaged the matter, but the PS3 first-party line-up for 2013 is nothing short of excellent. ( and with the exception of Gran Turismo 6, all of those games could've been developed as a PS4 title if Sony demanded it back in 2010/11)
 

Soi-Fong

Member
Because they have been too busy releasing some of PS3's best games this year. That long term console support.

This. This is turning out to be PS3's best year. What the hell came out on 360 from MS this year. MS dropped 360 support like it was nothing.
 

jayu26

Member
You know what makes this thread complete shit OP? This sentence...

Xbox One is getting DR3, RYSE, Titanfall and that Insomniac game exclusively. Sony has a lot of good games too, but nothing exclusive from 3rd parties. Seems like Sony invested a lot of money into smaller indie games but most people don't care about those.
 
I'd rather they invested in their own studios, at least those games are guaranteed to remain exclusive, unlike Titanfall which might do a Mass Effect 2 and come to Sony a year after being released on a Microsoft system.
 

Soi-Fong

Member
I'd rather they invested in their own studios, at least those games are guaranteed to remain exclusive, unlike Titanfall which might do a Mass Effect 2 and come to Sony a year after being released on a Microsoft system.

It will do exactly that. Lol might even be 6 months down the line.
 
Because Sony were sensible enough to realise that investing in first party studios will pay off a lot more than paying for third party exclusives ever will.
 

Racer1977

Member
Xbox One is getting DR3, RYSE, Titanfall and that Insomniac game exclusively. Sony has a lot of good games too, but nothing exclusive from 3rd parties. Seems like Sony invested a lot of money into smaller indie games but most people don't care about those.

Why couldn't they just get 1 or 2 exclusive 3rd parties? They are good with Ubisoft maybe they should have paid them more to get Watch Dogs to release early on the PS4.
I'd argue a steady stream of high quality indie games is going to be as important this gen, as the blockbuster AAA's, not to mention the definition of indie is changing, as is the ambitiousness of such titles. Even as the current gen peter's out, we are seeing indie titles garner more sales and media attention than we could ever imagine when those systems launched.

I'd also strongly argue the likes of DR3 and Ryse are the middle of the road (if not outright mediocre) titles that are dropping off a cliff (sales wise) and leading to so many developers getting into financial trouble. The very rare "exclusive" AAA 3rd party blockbuster, like ME, and possibly Titanfall, inevitably come to other platforms.

Investment in 1st party studios is the gift that keeps on giving, take ND, their two teams will deliver upto half a dozen AAA blockbusters during the PS4's lifespan. Imagine the cost, complexity and risk of trying to secure that line-up with 3rd party exclusives.
 
"console debut" ring a bell?

you think sony is paying any money for those indie studio to get their console debut? Sony may give them some kind of benefit or exposure by showcasing them on public event like E3 and Gamescom, but I doubt Sony is giving them literal moneyhat.
 

Sorral

Member
I rather want Sony to put money in their own 1st party exclusives instead of moneyhating other publishers/developers to prevent a game coming to more platforms.

This.

Third party games/publishers are coming to the PS4 <insert multiplatform games here>. Also, with the way PS4 is positioned right now, there will have to be a very significant moneyhat to prevent them from showing up on the PS4 and even then, just about most of them end up being timed anyway.
 

GodofWine

Member
I wonder how much money MS has spent on 3rd party exclusives, timed exclusives, exclusive dlc, timed DLC etc..and if you combined that, how many third party studios they could have bought out?

Its probably maybe (maybe not?) more than they could have bought infinity ward for in 2007, before COD was COD huge.

But no one has a crystal ball.
 
my guess is, at this point, they simply don't have to.

In the old days Sony could get console exclusives due to massive marketshare and companies (particularly Japanese) familiarity with SCE. Now, with the price of AAA productions getting higher and higher, most companies need to get those games on as many viable consoles as possible to cover high production costs and ultimately make a profit.

Paying for (or 'moneyhatting', as some like to say) a third-party game to remain only on a single console is much more expensive now, as a company will likely consider the revenue they would be losing by not being multi-platform. Companies like MS/Sony/Nintendo have two options right now: co-publish the game with the third-party, thus footing a good deal of the production bill or, in the words of the great Randy Moss- "straight cash, homey" to secure the exclusive.

Sony has concentrated on their first-party exclusives for a while now, as they should IMO. They've also seen MS spend a ton of money on exclusives (and exclusive content, like that massive deal with Rockstar over GTAIV) without significant effect.

If PS4 dominates the X1 the way the PS1 dominated the Saturn or the PS2 dominated the Dreamcast or XBox, PS4 will likely get default exclusives anyway- and without paying out the ass for them too, in theory.
If this console war is close, you might see Sony start digging in their pockets a bit to shore up a few big games. MS will continue trying to get exclusives, too, in order to stay competitive. Either way, there will be some big third-party exclusives this gen I predict.
 

Bulzeeb

Member
They're spending money on where it counts. Their own studios.

that, i went pc last gen but I must admit that Sony's first and second party studios are what makes me consider a PS3, damn if only the ps4 had some kind of backwards comp without needing a ps3 stream I will be buying one day one with a bunch of ps3 games
 

jsnepo

Member
Because Sony were sensible enough to realise that investing in first party studios will pay off a lot more than paying for third party exclusives ever will.

True. This generation is a great example of it. What's really fascinating is Sony failed at first (Heavenly Sword, Lair, Folklore, Genji, etc) then came back when the first Uncharted was released.
 

Soi-Fong

Member
Because Sony were sensible enough to realise that investing in first party studios will pay off a lot more than paying for third party exclusives ever will.

Sony is investing long-term. Microsoft, short term because they know most of their 1st party studios are second or third tier to Sony's studios.
 
Because of 1st party. I mean what? Why is this even a legitimate thread. Didn't Sony just open up a Third Party Relations team for this very reason? Does things get easily forgotten in a weeks time on Gaf?
 
Top Bottom