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[RM8]

Runners usually have super slim physiques, even when compared to other athletes. I was under the impression that cardio was indeed the best kind of exercise for fat loss, I admit.

 

[Axalon]

POWER BARS BRO

BRO

 

[Devolution]

No, that's really scientific. That's just blind trial and error.

I don't have any qualms about people testing out different diets, just do so under professional direction as there is much misinformation out there.

No, I don't just Google it, I have taken various college level courses on nutrition and disease prevention and I go through well-regarded online sources as well as my textbooks. I am not expert but it isn't a fallacy to rely on experts for expert knowledge. That's why they're experts.

Yet you keep scoffing at low carb solutions despite peddling the same diet advice that hasn't slimmed Americans down.

 

[Magnus]

Want to lose weight? Find your calorie maintenanceand eat 500 under.
Want to gain weight? Find your calorie maintenance and eat 10-20% over.

How does one do this?

 

[OfWhiteSkinOnRedLeather]

I mean the myth that breakfast kickstarts the metabolism when it doesnt. It's a completely irrelevant meal should one decide to forego it

I find breakfast tires me the fuck out. I'm groggy and have no energy for hours. If I skip it and wait till lunch, endless energy all day

 

[ClassyPenguin]

Yet you keep scoffing at low carb solutions despite peddling the same diet advice that hasn't slimmed Americans down.

No, I don't. Low carb or reducing some carb intake (such as in processed breads and cereals, starch heavy potatoes) is beneficial. What Americans need is to eat more fruits and vegetables and increase physical activity. Stop drinking soda and sugary drinks in general.

I scoff at the ones who think that it's a panacea.

 

[Y2Kev]

I want someone to lay out the case against Diet Soda for me. About 8 weeks ago, I stopped drinking all diet soda because someone told me diet soda was just as bad as regular soda (body reacts to the sweetness, makes it harder for the body to process food, whatever). I am not overweight at all but I thought it made sense to just give it up since it was just empty and I don't even like it anyway. So now I only drink water and milk. I switched from 2% to skim and use that with my morning cereal, which is Special K.

Is diet soda really bad? And I'm not even talking about behavioral stuff-- so not that it makes people think they're ok to eat other calories or convinces people they are really dieting when they are not-- but just from a pure nutritional point of view. Is diet soda something to stop drinking?

For the record I have never consumed regular soda.

 

[Beermeister]

Do you want to loose weight? Find your calorie maintenance and eat 500 under (each day) and you will loose 0.5 kg per week. Done.

 

[ClassyPenguin]

I want someone to lay out the case against Diet Soda for me. About 8 weeks ago, I stopped drinking all soda because someone told me diet soda was just as bad as regular soda (body reacts to the sweetness, makes it harder for the body to process food, whatever). I am not overweight at all but I thought it made sense to just give it up since it was just empty and I don't even like it anyway. So now I only drink water and milk. I switched from 2% to skim and use that with my morning cereal, which is Special K.

Is diet soda really bad? And I'm not even talking about behavioral stuff-- so not that it makes people think they're ok to eat other calories or convinces people they are really dieting when they are not-- but just from a pure nutritional point of view. Is diet soda something to stop drinking?

Nope. I mean there is still some acids and whatnot, but if you have healthy dental hygiene or are not consuming gallons upon gallons of the stuff, you should be fine.
Having a glass of Coke Zero with dinner or lunch is fine. It's just carbonated water, artificial sweeter and some acids.

 

[Sapiens]

I find breakfast tires me the fuck out. I'm groggy and have no energy for hours. If I skip it and wait till lunch, endless energy all day

I could take or leave breakfast, but generally, either bacons and eggs and/or a fruit or two will do.

Before I used to have a coffee with a bran|carrot muffin or croissant or whatever.

I dont generally get hungry until lunch these days, as I have late dinners.

And just to add to my previous posts, there are no other factors in my day to day life that would effect weight such as prescription medicine as I take none.

 

[Thorgal]

For me the best method to lose weight was simply going to work where i spend most of my day walking around and lifting stuff.

i ended up losing 15 KG in one year time .

 

[Phobophile]

How does one do this?

There are scales out there that will determine your weight, approximate body fat percentage, and baseline metabolic rate (the amount of energy your body consumes just from living).

Hit up a local gym, physical trainer, or physician to try one out.

 

[Hypereides]

Looks solid enough alright.

Losing fat is really quite simple.
Work towards gaining muscles, eat clean, and have patience.

seconded.

I'll sign my signature with a quill pen onto this fine statement.

On the average, this is not true. While the human metabolism does initially decrease by 35% after zonking out (2), it later increases significantly when you achieve REM sleep.

This rings true for me personally. I've often woken up sweating after REM dreams.

 

[SapientWolf]

I want someone to lay out the case against Diet Soda for me. About 8 weeks ago, I stopped drinking all diet soda because someone told me diet soda was just as bad as regular soda (body reacts to the sweetness, makes it harder for the body to process food, whatever). I am not overweight at all but I thought it made sense to just give it up since it was just empty and I don't even like it anyway. So now I only drink water and milk. I switched from 2% to skim and use that with my morning cereal, which is Special K.

Is diet soda really bad? And I'm not even talking about behavioral stuff-- so not that it makes people think they're ok to eat other calories or convinces people they are really dieting when they are not-- but just from a pure nutritional point of view. Is diet soda something to stop drinking?

For the record I have never consumed regular soda.

The research seems to indicate that consuming drinks that are sweet but calorie free may have some negative consequences (in terms of weight gain), but the mechanisms aren't well understood. You can't go wrong with water.

 

[ClassyPenguin]

Um, again reducing processed carbs and sugar is taken as a fundamental weight-loss and this has been accepted. You don't have to have a restrictive diet or gluten/carb free diet unless you do have something like Celiac and still lose weight or be healthy.

If you want those restrictions go do it, but don't act like it's the ultimate answer.

 

[Man]

1. Count calories.
2. Exercise.
3. Patience.

By counting calories you will naturally start to go for food that offer more volume for the calories (meats, greens).
I suggest strength training (squats, deadlift, bench...) until you feel lighter in your body.
Be patient.

Calorie free soda was of great aid to me. It will make you bloated in the sense that your body seems to contain a liter of extra water in it but that shouldn't factor into your thought process (two days without it and you are back to normal weight). Coffee has the opposite effect in that it will make your body expel water.

 

[IceCold]

Um, again reducing processed carbs and sugar is taken as a fundamental weight-loss and this has been accepted. You don't have to have a restrictive diet or gluten/carb free diet unless you do have something like Celiac and still lose weight or be healthy.

If you want those restrictions go do it, but don't act like it's the ultimate answer.

It's the most effective way though. Due to insulin and it's role in fat storage.

 

[Hypereides]

Um, again reducing processed carbs and sugar is taken as a fundamental weight-loss and this has been accepted. You don't have to have a restrictive diet or gluten/carb free diet unless you do have something like Celiac and still lose weight or be healthy.

If you want those restrictions go do it, but don't act like it's the ultimate answer.

It's not, but it is however very effective. And that's the point.

 

[Gurrry]

Here is how I lost weight:

Downloaded P90x and Insanity.

Stopped eating fast food and drinking soda.

Profit.

 

[blackflag]

Good list these are all true.

You gotta figure out what works for you in the end. For me it's cutting/cycling carbs.

 

[diamount]

I don't even know what to believe anymore when it comes to fitness information.

Just keep to the obvious information. Don't eat processed shit, exercise regularly, prepare your own meals and cutback on calorific drinks.

 

[ClassyPenguin]

It's the most effective way though. Due to insulin and it's role in fat storage.

Going into ketosis is something that's very restrictive and has all the negative effects of diet adherence as any fad diet.

Plenty of nutrition rich vegetables and legumes have carbs. Very little processed whole grains have great nutrition as well and are low GI.

 

[Gurrry]

If you burn more calories than you eat, you will lose weight.

Its science, but not rocket science.

 

[OfWhiteSkinOnRedLeather]

I could take or leave breakfast, but generally, either bacons and eggs and/or a fruit or two will do.

Before I used to have a coffee with a bran|carrot muffin or croissant or whatever.

I dont generally get hungry until lunch these days, as I have late dinners.

And just to add to my previous posts, there are no other factors in my day to day life that would effect weight such as prescription medicine as I take none.

See, I'm often hungry the moment I wake up, and I always eat late dinners (8 or 9 at night). I'm pretty good at ignoring the hunger, but I have a tendency to get into a bad mood when I don't eat, so I often cave. It may have a lot to do with what I eat (very carb/grain heavy), but I'm not in a position to try anything like paleo/primal, atm.

 

[ClassyPenguin]

Just keep to the obvious information. Don't eat processed shit, exercise regularly, prepare your own meals and cutback on calorific drinks.

Yes and keep a cheat day, so you don't feel so restricted.

 

[Devolution]

Um, again reducing processed carbs and sugar is taken as a fundamental weight-loss and this has been accepted. You don't have to have a restrictive diet or gluten/carb free diet unless you do have something like Celiac and still lose weight or be healthy.

If you want those restrictions go do it, but don't act like it's the ultimate answer.

More like you don't have to have Celiac to remove Gluten. People sometimes feel better restricting their diets, nothing wrong with it.

 

[MidgarBlowedUp]

Depends on the bread and amount. Whole wheat and oatmeal are pretty good. Stay away from stuff like dinner rolls, burger buns, white bread and limit the amount.

I'm losing weight by eating about 3/4 cup of bran cereal with milk, of course and a 3/4cup of yogurt plus fruit and a small portion of the food that my family makes at dinner. If I do snack it's on carrots and celery.

Whole wheat and oats are not exactly human food. However, the carbohydrates in whole wheat breads are better for you than what is in white bread as they take longer for the body to burn and absorb, and you don't get sugar spikes.

Whether you know it or not, you are loosing weight by lowering your carbohydrate intake and/or making it more difficult for your body to get those carbs.

Carrots and Celery have 0 carbohydrates
Yogurt has a decent amount of carbs but, depending on the type of yogurt the carb count can be anywhere from 50g in lowfat to 6g in greek (which is also high in fat and protein). Then there is the whole debate about how yogurt may actually aid the body in digesting carbs.

The only area where you are getting a lot of carbs are probably from fruit, which is fine since depending on your weight 150-200gm a day could be optimal for weight loss.

 

[opticalmace]

Here is how I lost weight:

Downloaded P90x and Insanity.

Stopped eating fast food and drinking soda.

Profit.

After buying them, right?

 

[Byakuya769]

Why such hostility towards paying attention about carb intake. A lot of carbs in our American diet are trash and nutritionally lacking. That goes or most breads.

 

[Stumpokapow]

I want someone to lay out the case against Diet Soda for me. About 8 weeks ago, I stopped drinking all diet soda because someone told me diet soda was just as bad as regular soda (body reacts to the sweetness, makes it harder for the body to process food, whatever). I am not overweight at all but I thought it made sense to just give it up since it was just empty and I don't even like it anyway. So now I only drink water and milk. I switched from 2% to skim and use that with my morning cereal, which is Special K.

Is diet soda really bad? And I'm not even talking about behavioral stuff-- so not that it makes people think they're ok to eat other calories or convinces people they are really dieting when they are not-- but just from a pure nutritional point of view. Is diet soda something to stop drinking?

For the record I have never consumed regular soda.

When you say "behavioral stuff", you sort of imply you're talking about a process that involves agency. The proposed problem with diet soda, that it fucks with hormone signalling and makes you eat more or feel less full to compensate, isn't an agent or conscious process. It's not like a person says "Oh, I drink diet soda, so I can get away with a second slice of pie"--it's that the processes in their body that they don't control are impacted in such a way that they eat the extra helping because they still feel hungry or that their body responds in a different way to the first helping.

 

[Sapiens]

See, I'm often hungry the moment I wake up, and I always eat late dinners (8 or 9 at night). I'm pretty good at ignoring the hunger, but I have a tendency to get into a bad mood when I don't eat, so I often cave. It may have a lot to do with what I eat (very carb/grain heavy), but I'm not in a position to try anything like paleo/primal, atm.

One thing I notice - in my own experience with my own body and own habits - in reducing sugar and bread was that the feeling of being hungry changed. I no longer get into bad moods from hunger or get hungry quickly after a meal.

 

[shira]

Get him fit gaf, get him!

http://www.muscleandstrength.com/articles/9-fat-loss-myths

LOL, this stuff is such a joke

 

[IceCold]

Going into ketosis is something that's very restrictive and has all the negative effects of diet adherence as any fad diet.

Plenty of nutrition rich vegetables and legumes have carbs. Very little processed whole grains have great nutrition as well and are low GI.

You don't need to do keto. You can get plenty of nutrients from veggies and fruits while following a low carb diet.

 

[Vintage_Creep]

I'm losing weight for a month now, but without being a maniac about it.
I went to the gym a few years back and the problem was that I was bored to death. Now, I have a treadmill and a television. Basically, every day (except most of Saturdays for time problems) i walk/run for 50/60 minutes on it while watching an episode of a TV series (for now it's Big Love). Also I used to drink a lot of sugar sodas like Coca Cola and stuff, now I concede myself a sip every two or three days tops, maybe a Burn / Red Bull every week in a day I'm feeling really tired but I can't go to sleep yet. 99% water though.
I also try to eat healthier (mostly vegetables at dinner for example), Saturday is the only day of the week in which I treat myself a little bit.
I don't control it on a balance, I really don't give a fuck, I just want to lose that belly and that's it. I think I'm doing pretty good.

 

[ClassyPenguin]

You don't need to do keto. You can get plenty of nutrients from veggies and fruits while following a low carb diet.

And again, reducing carbs I have and the scientific and medical community has no problem with it.

 

[molnizzle]

Only read rule #1, and I fully agree. I lost my weight by cutting down to 1 meal a day (with a bowl of cereal for breakfast). Shit works.

 

[Piecake]

Only read rule #1, and I fully agree. I lost my weight by cutting down to 1 meal a day (with a bowl of cereal for breakfast). Shit works.

You ate one bowl of cereal for the entire day?!?! That isnt healthy at all

 

[Blood Diamonds]

You ate one bowl of cereal for the entire day?!?! That isnt healthy at all

No he ate cereal for breakfast and then one meal.

 

[ClassyPenguin]

No, ketosis is completely different in nature from an all-grapefruit or liquid protein diet or whatever. Are you serious here?

It's labeled as such by the scientific and medical community. Given that its only therapeutic use by John Hopkins in epileptic patients under supervision.

I wouldn't consider reducing carbs or something like a modified low-carb diet to be a fad since it is supported by the medical community.

 

[Piecake]

It's labeled as such by the scientific and medical community. Given that its only therapeutic use by John Hopkins in epileptic patients under supervision.

Well, thats pretty stupid considering that you can get your daily required nutrients and eat till your full while on a ketosis diet.

 

[Necromanti]

Dietary advice that demonizes neither fat nor carbohydrates? I'm impressed.

 

[MidgarBlowedUp]

If eating a diet that is low in carb (~150gm per day) and high in animal fat and protein is something of a fad, then it has been a fad for 10-50 thousand years.

 

[Kuga]

Going into ketosis is something that's very restrictive and has all the negative effects of diet adherence as any fad diet.

What manner of negative effects? Compared to which fad diet(s)? I don't understand what your assertion means.

 

[Enco]

How does one do this?

Check here.

There's a calculator and loads of cool info. The calculator is called a BMR Calculator.

 

[molnizzle]

No he ate cereal for breakfast and then one meal.

Yep.

 

[ClassyPenguin]

What manner of negative effects? Compared to which fad diet(s)? I don't understand what your assertion means.

You have a much higher chance to rebound due to restrictions, plus higher chance of ill effect when going off diet.

 

[Zoe]

Depends on the bread and amount. Whole wheat and oatmeal are pretty good. Stay away from stuff like dinner rolls, burger buns, white bread and limit the amount.

You need to be careful though and still look at the nutritional info on the "healthy" breads, especially at sandwich shops. Some of them will add stuff to make it more palatable.

 

[MidgarBlowedUp]

No he ate cereal for breakfast and then one meal.

That actually seems kinda OK to me. I mean I'm sure our ancestors only ate one meal a day, probably none at certain times.

I once lost a ton of weight, gained it back eventually though, when I worked as a truck loader. I'd eat two small sausage biscuits for breakfast, then 1 meal of whatever I could eat for dinner.

 

[Devolution]

It's also been used in trials as a potential treatment for otherwise intractable cancers and with Alzheimer's patients. The fact that it has active therapeutic uses should be enough to indicate that it's effects are, again, completely different in nature to your average "fad diet." Anyway, you're the one who acts as if giving up bread is going to instantly push you into ketosis.

Right, that's why you came out of the gate with this gem:

As well, you keep referring to "the scientific and medical community" like it is some monolithic organ that keeps a unified front of agreement and regularly issues statements on what it approves and what it doesn't, when the nature of practicing science - slowly, with lots of mistakes, and carefully trying never to jump to drastic conclusions - in reality often conflicts with the public desire for easily digestible information. In the past, this has directly led to many of the fads and problems you complain about, like the low-fat craze of the 80s and 90s (a direct consequence of diet advice emanating out of Ancel Keys' anti-fat crusade and consequent support by the USDA and other major dietary-advice-dispensing organizations.)

Low fat pushed by administrative executives and no real science was so cool. And it's still in effect today.

 

[OfWhiteSkinOnRedLeather]

Low fat pushed by administrative executives and no real science was so cool. And it's still in effect today.

Especially since they added a ton of sugar for taste. Totally awesome.