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9 Fat Loss Myths You Might Be Wasting Your Time With
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Death Prophet
Isn't it much better to incorporate weight training into your diet than rely on cardio to lose weight?
zero shift
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This times a thousand. Everybody says something different.
Devolution
Member
My favorite is them classifying ketchup as a vegetable for kid's lunches. Yeah I trust these fucks to write proper nutritional guidelines.
ClassyPenguin
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True.
No it isn't. Healthy fats and oils are emphasized such as avocados, olive and vegetable oils, omega 3 etc.
http://www.choosemyplate.gov/food-groups/oils-why.html
Devolution
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I guess you don't go shopping.
Blood Diamonds
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So I want to lose weight, and I exercise 5 days a week (Sports and workout)
By only eating something like a fruit or cereal for breakfast and then one meal only should I start seeing results?
By only eating something like a fruit or cereal for breakfast and then one meal only should I start seeing results?
Zoe
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It's not going to make you lose weight anymore than cardio would. Diet is the most important thing.
You should if a calorie deficit is happening.
ClassyPenguin
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no.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/post/did-congress-declare-pizza-as-a-vegetable-not-exactly/2011/11/20/gIQABXgmhN_blog.html
Also, those decisions are political.
The medical community would much prefer having on-site culinary staff and healthy lunches. Budgets are controlled by politicians not doctors or scientists.
Unless you're [pre-]diabetic, insulin management on a diet is more about compliance than anything else. You see this in studies where they carefully measure and catalog food consumption with no deviance. I think for most people the success of low-carb comes down to a combination of not wanting to actually measure calories, plus not thinking about the calories from eg bread on a sandwich, or juice/soda/etc calories actually "counting." Satiety from increasing protein consumption, plus the thermic effect of food (protein is converted into energy more inefficiently than carbohydrates, thus a calorie is not always a calorie) also likely plays a role when people aren't careful about their actual kcal intake. So I think for these people (again, people who don't want to catalog their calorie intake), removing carbs from the diet is probably their best bet.
That said, if you actually are into taking meticulous care about cataloging your intake, and trust yourself not to cheat overmuch, a restricted-carb-but-not-low-carb diet like The Zone or an isocaloric (33/33/33) is probably your best bet for feeling well, having adequate overall nutrition, the ability to eat a variety of foods, and consistent results over a long term (fewer stalls / less need to "jumpstart" fatloss by further caloric restriction, less need to increase cardio work, etc). If you do want to go low-carb however, I'd say you're best off going all the way, vs severe restriction but not actually going ketonic; there are actually benefits to being in that state vs the negatives (say, thyroid function) of just not eating many carbs.
That said, if you actually are into taking meticulous care about cataloging your intake, and trust yourself not to cheat overmuch, a restricted-carb-but-not-low-carb diet like The Zone or an isocaloric (33/33/33) is probably your best bet for feeling well, having adequate overall nutrition, the ability to eat a variety of foods, and consistent results over a long term (fewer stalls / less need to "jumpstart" fatloss by further caloric restriction, less need to increase cardio work, etc). If you do want to go low-carb however, I'd say you're best off going all the way, vs severe restriction but not actually going ketonic; there are actually benefits to being in that state vs the negatives (say, thyroid function) of just not eating many carbs.
MrToughPants
Brian Burke punched my mom
And here come the junk food phobics.
On my second glass of orange Crush.
So good.
ClassyPenguin
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There is no problem with indulging in junk food. The problem is the overconsumption of those sugary drinks over time and this is true all countries with obesity problems.
vatstep
This poster pulses with an appeal so broad the typical restraints of our societies fall by the wayside.
"Don't eat before bed," or "Don't eat carbs at night," in my experience, is total bullshit. For a long-ass time, I've been eating big, carb-filled meals (whether I was currently dieting to lose weight or not) late at night and falling asleep soon after with no discernible downside. I mean, maybe I would've lost weight faster if I DIDN'T do such a thing, but two pounds or so per week was always enough for me.
It's always been a questionable theory, but I don't buy it at all at this point. Maybe it's harmful for other reasons (I don't think we're meant to eat and sleep immediately after...), but I don't think it has anything to do with fat loss, metabolism, etc.
It's always been a questionable theory, but I don't buy it at all at this point. Maybe it's harmful for other reasons (I don't think we're meant to eat and sleep immediately after...), but I don't think it has anything to do with fat loss, metabolism, etc.
I probably lost around 10lbs over summer. All I did was pretty simple:
1) Eat fruits and veggies whenever I'd normally be eating any other type of snack food.
2) Be conscious of how much I'm actually eating rather than just putting seconds on my plate just because it tastes good and I'm not completely stuffed.
3) Try to run everyday. This I guess isn't too simple, because it was the first time I ever did any type of serious running in my whole life. But I stuck to it and I went from huffing and puffing over a distance of a half mile to being able to run 5K at the modest speed of 30 minutes. Now it sucks because school has started and it's hard to find time to go running. I'll probably just start waking up 45 minutes earlier than usual and do it then.
It all worked out in the end though because I can honestly say I've never looked better in my life.
1) Eat fruits and veggies whenever I'd normally be eating any other type of snack food.
2) Be conscious of how much I'm actually eating rather than just putting seconds on my plate just because it tastes good and I'm not completely stuffed.
3) Try to run everyday. This I guess isn't too simple, because it was the first time I ever did any type of serious running in my whole life. But I stuck to it and I went from huffing and puffing over a distance of a half mile to being able to run 5K at the modest speed of 30 minutes. Now it sucks because school has started and it's hard to find time to go running. I'll probably just start waking up 45 minutes earlier than usual and do it then.
It all worked out in the end though because I can honestly say I've never looked better in my life.
-Plasma Reus-
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Friend of mine lost 8 kg in the past 3 months. Which is about 400 grams of weight a week approx.
Only by eating less than a thousand cals a day. And not changing lifestyle in any other way, besides minimizing sugar,and fastfood/snacks (you can eat them, but don't eat them on a regular basis).
Some days you can over eat, but it doesn't seem to matter.
Only by eating less than a thousand cals a day. And not changing lifestyle in any other way, besides minimizing sugar,and fastfood/snacks (you can eat them, but don't eat them on a regular basis).
Some days you can over eat, but it doesn't seem to matter.
ClassyPenguin
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The CDC, WHO, USDA, Mayo Clinic, John Hopkins, American Diabetic Association, American Medical Association, American Gastroenterological Association, Various research institutions and universities around the world are pretty much on the same page and continue to change their guidelines as evidence changes.
That's going to end up fucking-over their metabolism. When they're done losing weight, they're going to need to very slowly (eg over a period of months) increase calories bit-by-bit until they reach a reasonable maintenance level, unless they are interested in extremely rapid rebound weightgain.
ClassyPenguin
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AuthenticM
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So I can keep eating peanut butter on white bread every morning as I have done for the past 26 years ? Awesome ! 
a secret-boss
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eat in moderation is the main thing.
Does anyone else find that saying absolutely useless? What the hell does that even mean?
Like most americans, if you eat a bowl of cereal, a sandwich, and some pasta with a snack or two in between, that sure as shit aint moderation.
First you actually need to define what is a healthy diet before telling them to eat in moderation.
Horseticuffs
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Fruit may contain lots of awesome vitamins and stuff, and I'd like to eat more of them, but an hour after having one I'm even more hungry than I was before. I have stopped eating lunch at work, mostly because I'm lazy, and have found it much easier to do if I don't touch the free fruit.
Not sure what the science has to say here, however; it could all be in my head.
Not sure what the science has to say here, however; it could all be in my head.
Byakuya769
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Atkins induction allows 20-25g of carbs. that can be a lot of greens and broccoli, because you subtract dietary fiber and sugar alcohols to get "net carbs." I think it's a great way to learn to appreciate healthier foods while achieving a weight loss goal through a simple program.
Paleo is cool other than preachy paleos that want to act like what you eat makes them shit.
I basically stuck to a fairly strict but generic, low-fat, low carb, and low sugar diet, while eating decent portions, and exercising, and that got me to lose 50 pounds in a year. Ive been able to keep it off even when occasionally eating fast food and bad things by generally avoiding soda, sugar-high things, candies and desserts etc, and not eating a lot outside of the general breakfast, lunch, and dinner time zones. Havent exercised in months.
a secret-boss
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That's y said it as broad as it can be because every one is different. People start getting confuse when u start saying specific thing that doesn't apply to one person
But its don't eat too much sugar. Eating 2-3 cups ice cream everyday. Or drinking soda x8 a day.
Eating McDonald for breakfast lunch and dinner
U know common sense stuff
Ghost_Protocol
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Jumping rope is the most effective weight loss exercise I've ever tried. It's like magic, and you feel so good afterwards.
Jump rope every day for half an hour, cut out all junk foods, soda , and fast foods, and just watch the transformation happen.
Jump rope every day for half an hour, cut out all junk foods, soda , and fast foods, and just watch the transformation happen.
SquiddyCracker
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Calorie counting is really the easiest way of beating your body imho.
I could lose weight relatively healthy on just ice cream, so long as I supplement with multivitamins. I'd just have to ensure that I was eating less than my body was burning.
I could lose weight relatively healthy on just ice cream, so long as I supplement with multivitamins. I'd just have to ensure that I was eating less than my body was burning.
captmorgan
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I have one simple rule when trying to sort out whats fact or fiction about weight loss, supplements, cardio, what not....
If your FAT your opinion is worthless.
If your FAT your opinion is worthless.
You can also have a gluten intolerance without having celiac.
SapientWolf
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Who wants to play a game of "spot the argumentative fallacy?"
Byakuya769
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You'd be left not feeling satiated and causing your brain to crave sweet foods. As soon as you stop counting, nature would run its course.
No one. That weaksacue should just be allowed to stand alone in its absurdity.
captmorgan
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Your right sorry, I just have a hard time listening to a Carpenter about how to build my deck when his deck that he built collapsed.
Besides I just said thats how I choose which fairy tales to believe feel free to pick your own poison.
Horseticuffs
Full werewolf off the buckle
The trick is to either count forever, or learn to have a healthy relationship with food. To understand proper portioning and what is healthy to eat and the activity necessary to maintain your current weight.
Just to be safe, I'm never intending to quit counting. I'm perfectly fine just entering in my day's meals the previous night and sticking to it. Like has been said in this thread, it just works for me.
As far as the satiation part, you're sort of right. I'm never "FULL" like I used to make myself, but I've come to see that isn't the end of the world.
Byakuya769
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You're on an ice cream diet?
Hypereides
Member
Got a pretty faulty perspective there buddy.
I met a super skinny dude once that knew just as much as I do about nutritions and exercising. He had some justified medical reasons why he couldn't workout.
Don't base your judgement on someone's knowledge just by their look.
Horseticuffs
Full werewolf off the buckle
Err, noooo. I feel perhaps I'm missing a post somewhere :/
Byakuya769
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I was responding to the idea that through counting calories you could be healthy and lose weight on ice cream and supplements.
Zoe
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This guy came close:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html
Junk food + multivitamin + shake + can of vegetables
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Deleted member 12837
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Nope.
You can, though. You can lose weight on a Twinkie diet, or a potato diet. These people didn't experience any health issues. Actually:
You should probably be eating protein with every meal. It has the least calories per gram out of all the macronutrients when you consider how the body metabolizes it, it usually doesn't create an insulin response like carbs do, it causes you to feel more full, it causes carbs to digest more slowly which evens out the insulin response compared to carbs alone. If you're trying to lose weight you should be eating lots of protein, more than the RDA says. It is also likely beneficial to eat it with every meal.
Weilthain
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I'm about 5"9 and was 18 stone 7 months ago, now im almost bang on 13.
I stopped drinking coke and eating chocolate and crisps. I walk over 4 miles a day and eat sensible meals always watching my calories.
still about 1.5 stone to go i reckon. Ive been fat all my life and finally got so sick of being over weight I really tried, at the rate im going it will be another couple months and ill be a healthy weight.
To anyone struggling with weight loss I would say you gotta really want to lose weight and give up that junk food.
I stopped drinking coke and eating chocolate and crisps. I walk over 4 miles a day and eat sensible meals always watching my calories.
still about 1.5 stone to go i reckon. Ive been fat all my life and finally got so sick of being over weight I really tried, at the rate im going it will be another couple months and ill be a healthy weight.
To anyone struggling with weight loss I would say you gotta really want to lose weight and give up that junk food.
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