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For real, I'm having fun again.
Which is why I said (lately). I'm talking about since his fight with Obito started. Unless I'm forgetting a lot, Killer Bee did not teach him how to do many of these advanced attacks and combos he's doing now, but you bring up a good point with the other bijuu being in him. Still, they did not 'train' Naruto to do these things. He just sort of done them and everyone was awed. But like you said, it's acceptable because he has the bijuu. Character's only go through training arc if the author wants them to. No one taught Sasuke and Naruto how to perfectly combine rasenshurikin and Amaterasu, yet they do it perfectly, without an injury from either.
As for the Uchiha hax argument, I've never been a fan. Saying Sasuke has everything handed to him may be true compared to characters like Rock Lee, but if Sasuke has things handed to him through Sharingan, Naruto is no different with Kurama. It made more since in part 1, but hardwork is hardly the theme of this manga anymore. Naruto wouldn't have halve the power he has without Kurama, even bebefore their friendship. The only thing we saw Sasuke learn was chidori, but people really think he didn't train to acquire other techniques. Kirin was his own invention, and people don't believe he had to train? He even had to train his Mangekyo. Obito has mentioned he was training Sasuke when he set him on the Kages as well as expediting his eye's deterioration. It was an intense and 'stupid imo' training method but it's what Kishi went with and Sasuke got stronger.
If we did have a Sasuke training arc, I'm pretty sure people would complain. We have Kishi not showing Sasuke learning these new jutsu and people say it's hax. I don't know if this is even still relevant, but we have to remember that Sasuke was 'suposed' to be a genius in part 1. Not only could he copy the jutsu, but 'perform' it, which takes a different set of skills. At least this is what was brought to my attention on Gai's comment after Sasuke had copied one of Lee's moves in the chuunin exams.
Eh. I'm not trying to start a debate though. This argument is as old as...I don't even know...so let's not.
As for Susanoo's transformation, I think it's just a matter of chakra or even experience to grow legs. Didn't Sasuke's susanoo sprout an extra arm or two during Kabuto fight, and before that we though only Madara's could do that. I have to go back, but I'm pretty sure Itachi's even did the same, and we know he didn't get any training done while dead, or maybe he could always do it, but held back with Sasuke. It's obvious enough that Uchihas can control the shape Susanoo takes to some extent. Seems like emotions or energy gives it physical changes as well. Sasuke's second form Susanoo getting legs is hardly a big deal I think.
Black-Wind
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Hey, manga gaf!
Does anyone remember the name of that manga where the main character sees the future through cell phone text and has a Yandere girlfriend whose obsessed with him?
I want to finish that and Soul Eater to wrap up 2 of the mange I lost track of.
Does anyone remember the name of that manga where the main character sees the future through cell phone text and has a Yandere girlfriend whose obsessed with him?
I want to finish that and Soul Eater to wrap up 2 of the mange I lost track of.
Mirai Nikki.
Mirai Nikki
Black-Wind
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BassForever
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Are you really asking for more scenes of characters training in Naruto?
Rafa=FedKilla
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Somebody please translate elDLIVE im begging you.... This whole Jump Live is so underreported, they be treating it like it is Business Jump.
Dedication Through Light
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It is actually being done.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I still find it funny that people still get upset that Naruto didn't show up after his training with Jiriaya strong enough to fight off Akatsuki members by himself.
Why? Spoiler it for me, I have finished the series and can't think of anything at the end that was that special?
Theonik
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On the second to last chapter, it ends with Emiru running off again and throwing her phone in the river. With the way the story was going up to that point it's an ultimate troll ending for that chapter and it will be a couple of weeks till we get the 'True End'
Hell no. That's part of my point. I like sasuke but I don't want to see him training. I like naruto but I don't want to see him training. I don't want to see any of my favorite characters training.
I thought narutos training with bee was pretty boring except for when he battled kurama and the flashback of the attack on the leaf. The actual training itself was a bore.
I'm glad we skip a lot of training but just because we don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't happen in some form. It's not always hax plus I enjoy being surprised by new attacks from my favorite characters so maybe that's why I'm not so bothered by it.
Man maybe it is too long ago or I don't remember that at all, I may have to do another read.
Also I would wish Nozo X Kimi would pick up some pace
I need a more heavy smut manga like Nozoki Ana was
cosmicblizzard
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Wagatsuma 29
Sylvia should be the main love interest. Wagatsuma is boring.
Sylvia should be the main love interest. Wagatsuma is boring.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
What as that technique that Jiraya told Naruto not to use? I can´t remember if Naruto ever used it, or even mentioned again. Besides come on, Naruto trained for 2 weeks in sage mode and he was somewhat a match for Pain, so 2 years training with Jiraya should have made a bigger impact. I know the chakra training that Jiraya made Naruto do was essential but still.
Tathanen
Get Inside Her!
Was it not just the kyuubi chakra? Maybe a big rasengan that drew on kyuubi chakra to get big, and had the potential to destabilize the seal? Naruto look sorta ashamed when he agreed not to use "it," it was probably just "some kyuubi shit," since he fucked up Jiraiya with it during training. And yeah, it bled out when he was chasing down Deidara.
Theonik
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1/8 Kanojo
Oversized tits aside the art wasn't terrible, but it wasn't great either. Standard maybe?
Still worth a read though if not for the dumb premise and for hilarious pages like this.
This manga. So friggin' ridiculous. The plot is basically that there is this girl, she's fallen in love for her childhood friend but can't confess her love. She make a wish that they can be together forever. That wish ends up making her the size of a doll, as he is some sort of doll obessed neet. Will she be able to overcome her predicament allowing their love to flourish?
lol
Oversized tits aside the art wasn't terrible, but it wasn't great either. Standard maybe?
Still worth a read though if not for the dumb premise and for hilarious pages like this.
Angry Grimace
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For one, no it shoudn't have. Why would it? Jiraiya couldn't train Naruto to use Sage Mode himself because he didn't have the requisite chakra control and just showing him how to use karate isn't going to make him overpowered since everyone can use karate.
And the "secret" technique was just unleashing the Kyuubi's chakra. It was translated very vaguely, which lead everyone to assume there was a secret technique that we haven't seen.
No, it wasn't a translation issue. It really seemed to hint at some new, unknown technique.
Angry Grimace
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Phoenician_Viking
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Jiraya could have taught Naruto other techniques. Jiraya did not even teach Naruto the nature of his chakra. I mean really 2 weeks and Naruto defeats the strongest akatsuki, and becomes the strongest person in Konoha, yet 2 years of training and he could not defeat the weakest akatsuki by himself. It´s not really much to ask that after 2 years of training Naruto would know new techniques, and becomes powerful enough for at the very least defeat the weakest akatsuki.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
"New techniques" is the most overplayed criticism ever. Every single character in every shonen manga has like two techniques total, and a few variations on the same technique. It doesn't even follow: Naruto is completely overpowered and he doesn't have any more techniques than what he had before, he just has a bunch of indistinct chakra modes to make them stronger.
Besides, its easy to rationalize: Jiriaya had to teach Naruto the basis to learn all of those by controlling his chakra.
Glass Rebel
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man i fucking hate big ios updates
fuck you everyone, get off apple's servers so i can verify
fuck you everyone, get off apple's servers so i can verify
Winterfang
Banned
Jiraiya did a terrible job training Naruto. Which is amazing since his other students Nagato/Minato where amazing.
The only thing I believe he told him was slightly better hold of Kyuubi chakra. Which meant going as far as three Tails while only going moderately crazy. A slightly bigger Rasengan and He also told him that if you find yourself alone against a genjutsu itself, you should just give up.
I mean did he wrote Tales of a Gutsy Ninja in vain or something?
I understand not teaching him Sage Mode. (He didn't liked the technique because it made him ugly and I think you need to train with a beast master in order to become a Sage)
But Naruto is a genius on his own way, he would had being able to learn a lot of things had he being train properly. On another matter is a shame Asuma couldn't teach him some wind techniques, he had to figure out the Rasenshuriken by himself.
When Sasuke came in shippuden he was magnitudes above him. Because Orochimaru for reasons beyond my understanding became a better teacher than him.
The only thing I believe he told him was slightly better hold of Kyuubi chakra. Which meant going as far as three Tails while only going moderately crazy. A slightly bigger Rasengan and He also told him that if you find yourself alone against a genjutsu itself, you should just give up.
I mean did he wrote Tales of a Gutsy Ninja in vain or something?
I understand not teaching him Sage Mode. (He didn't liked the technique because it made him ugly and I think you need to train with a beast master in order to become a Sage)
But Naruto is a genius on his own way, he would had being able to learn a lot of things had he being train properly. On another matter is a shame Asuma couldn't teach him some wind techniques, he had to figure out the Rasenshuriken by himself.
When Sasuke came in shippuden he was magnitudes above him. Because Orochimaru for reasons beyond my understanding became a better teacher than him.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I don't think Jiriaya couldn't have taught Naruto sage mode. You seem to need the frogs to be there.
Wagatsuma-san wa Ore no Yome 1-30
This is pretty good, I love the jokes that the manga makes, I do think however,
Edit: Chapter 30
Kami-Sama Drop
Ok, so the ending of the first chapter was kinda unexpected, but I do think it'll turn out that
it's very much like a few Harem manga I've read really.
This is pretty good, I love the jokes that the manga makes, I do think however,
that all the time skipping is in his head, and that he's just coincidentally getting lucky at his choices, and the manga won't end up as expected.
Edit: Chapter 30
The ending of chapter 29 was a tease, I loved the "Raped by the Deer" part haha
Kami-Sama Drop
Ok, so the ending of the first chapter was kinda unexpected, but I do think it'll turn out that
She won't be able to destroy the city as she wants because her powers are tied to the MC, so she has to wait for her opportunity, leading to the MC and her eventually falling for eachother etc.
Glass Rebel
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Well, I don't believe the term used ("jutsu") was ever applied to the whole "Nine-Tails chakra" thingy.
Also, wasn't there something about perfecting / completing a technique Minato was working on? I forget...
Pro-tip: focus on the arguments, not on the poster.
He knew where the frogs where.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Releasing the nine-tails is a technique Naruto knows how to do, and knew how to do at the beginning of Part II.
Rasengan. Minato's original goal was infusing it with chakra nature.
Perhaps, but you're jumping to conclusions. He also had to train Naruto in chakra management (which is necessary to learn Sage Mode) and from what we saw, you're supposed to find the sages yourself to be eligible for Sage Training. I don't think its necessarily true that Jiriaya could have just warped there and started Naruto on the training.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Naruto
I still don't trust Sasuke. Also was that sage+bijuu mode. Didn't know they could stack lol.
I still don't trust Sasuke. Also was that sage+bijuu mode. Didn't know they could stack lol.
Don't believe that was ever called a "jutsu" either...
Was that actually said?
Wait, Naruto did that?
(all honest questions: it's been a while)
Dedication Through Light
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The Heroic Legend of Arslan 3
Kind of boring, or maybe these types of stories are better suited to anime, looked kind of silly how they are talking while the arrows are just flying around. Oh well at least Daryoon and Arslan reunited so Ill stick around.
One Punch Man - marugoto zenbu ore no mono
Finally that which I wanted most from the series, if only Sonic can be in one too. Hope it continues to explode in popularity so more can come. Great art.
Kind of boring, or maybe these types of stories are better suited to anime, looked kind of silly how they are talking while the arrows are just flying around. Oh well at least Daryoon and Arslan reunited so Ill stick around.
One Punch Man - marugoto zenbu ore no mono
Finally that which I wanted most from the series, if only Sonic can be in one too. Hope it continues to explode in popularity so more can come. Great art.
grandjedi6
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And we all know that Jiraiya spent those 2 years just trying to make Naruto a less-annoying smarter protagonist.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
It really doesn't make any difference. If it was confusing, you can blame Kishimoto for lumping all moves into the generalized "jutsu" category.
Yes, by Kakashi.
That's speculation, but it seems likely. And no, Fukasaku came and reverse summoned him. However, given Fukasaku's dialogue about finding the mountain and Kabuto's dialogue about finding the Snake Cave, it seems as though you are supposed to travel there and ask for training, as opposed to just being led there by another user.
In any case, its pretty speculative to suggest he could just go there and start learning sage mode when he had shitty chakra control to begin with since failing at balancing the energy kills you via petrification. Sage Mode is supposed to be extremely difficult to do.
A Huge Battleship
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Nisekoi 91
And some other stuff may have happened.
And some other stuff may have happened.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
This dude in Naruto should have been more important
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Nisekoi 91
BassForever
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I feel like I need to read Nisekoi now
The short of it is
we've been given a lot of "Oh, but aren't you...?" kind of responses from all the parents about Raku's childhood and which girl is THE ONE. He just did it himself.
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