Pagusas
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Yep, my understanding is the monitor will just hold the frame until a new frame is received.
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G-SYNC - New nVidia monitor tech (continuously variable refresh; no tearing/stutter)
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Yep, my understanding is the monitor will just hold the frame until a new frame is received.
Windom Earle
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Really amazing, Nvidia is bringing the goods.
Takamura-San
Member
I hope my monitors supports the DIY upgrade 
Asus VW246H
Oldie but a goodie.
Asus VW246H
Oldie but a goodie.
I think it will be good for input lag as well. I think we still have a lot of ways to go concerning input lag.
We call our tech Variable Refresh Rate (VRR).
Dirk Benedict
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Well the VG248QE is one of the first supported screens and that's a 144Hz screen. I dunno about input lag, but there is always some input lag.
Someone more knowledgable about graphics may correct me but I cannot think of such an IQ (excluding stuff like more pixels more colors that are the norm) improvement in a very long time. It won't make any numbers higher, but it's going to be one of those things that you cannot give up once you have it.
Normally I rail against PhysX and Mantle but I'm glad nVidia is doing this. Monitor manufacturers have been sitting on their collective lazy asses that the industry itself wasn't going to do ANYTHING to improve unless it was dragged into progress kicking and screaming. I hope down the road a standardized system takes place but that will never happen if nVidia wasn't doing this now. It's not like ATI/AMD never had a chance to try to address this problem, and these monitors will work with AMD cards as well, you just won't get the variable refresh rate.
graywolf323
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well I have two questions before I let the excitement take me
will this work with my 780M?
also what does this mean for frames per a second as we know it?
will this work with my 780M?
also what does this mean for frames per a second as we know it?
MightyHedgehog
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Nice. Hopefully, this will be adopted in a more universal, less proprietary way to speed adoption across the board instead of dying off due to exclusivity limitations. I was still thinking that frequency-based rendering/refresh techniques would be a generally more useful solution to issues like this, though.
carmack says it right. we have twenty page threads over minor frame variances, lacking AO effects or more jagged shadows, but here is a solution to giant fucking tears that rip the whole screen in half without compromising on response times and making the whole image stutter, and we're only at page two.
you won't find a more staunchly vendor agnostic gamer than me, but you really have to give it up for nvidia here. they've kicked down the door and we're all going to benefit.
you won't find a more staunchly vendor agnostic gamer than me, but you really have to give it up for nvidia here. they've kicked down the door and we're all going to benefit.
plagiarize
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Seriously, we need Dark10X in here to join the party. I think the three of us are the most vocal on these NOW DEFEATED issues.
I was following the other thread and doing all my dancing over there, but your posts best sum up how I feel about this.
This is a huge day. I am still going to wait until the end of next year to do that PC upgrade (saving saving saving already...) but that build is going to sing like I can't even imagine right now.
Carmack is totally going to make sure Rift supports this too, I'd bet. He's always been a massive campaigner against frame latency in all it's forms.
No more tearing. No more stuttering. No more image lag. Frames beginning to draw on the monitor right after the graphics card finishes drawing.
It's a very, VERY, happy day.
And from my Stereoscopic 3D perspective, I'm very happy to hear it helps with 3D vision too.
it'll mean that input lag is much closer to how it works with Vsync turned off, rather than now, where vsync increases it for various reasons (buffering mainly).
Carmack said it will matter less, because you can free up horsepower to do pretty visual things and not have to worry about staying within +/- 10 of 60 frames a second. Witness how hard devs are working on making next gen a certain framerate.
He absolutely loved it and said it's a must buy for him. I'd trust the man.
If you don't mind screen tearing, then this probably wont matter much to you.
But obviously no screen tearing is preferable to having to put up with it. Its objectively a superior experience.
For me, its the input lag I don't really notice or have any noticeable issues with. Its not even that I don't mind it, its that I honestly cant tell the difference when I turn on v-sync, so I dont know what there is to mind. So for me, I'm not exactly excited about this, but I think its cool the tech is there now.
Dirk Benedict
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Eyes trained for smooth images, crisp text, high resolutions, FPS fluctuations are definitely interested in this tech.
Oh. Not impressed tbh. This is nice for super high end dudes, I guess....?
A lot of people don't realize how crazy big this is for quality.
I imagine this tech or its approach will eventually filter down to consoles in the future. It makes 30/60 a moot point according to everyone who witnessed the demo. Good shit Nvidia.
cyberheater
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Hard to believe we could be looking at a screen tear-less future for PC gamers at long last. It's pretty amazing technology.
Yeah, I mean obviously getting rid of tearing without using Vsync will be nice...I guess I'm just not that picky about my graphics aside from enjoying maxxing them out.
Either way, when it seems that everyone who has seen it is saying it's the second coming, I will take their word for it.
No, it's for AMD as well...
ElectricKaibutsu
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Proprietary, shmietary. I'm buying an Nvidia card and Gsync monitor.
Sir_Crocodile
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Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I'm not buying a monitor that forces me into a specific vendor for x years.
Future PhaZe
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theoretically this tech could significantly increase time between upgrades.
As much as I prefer the smoothness of 60fps, I can tolerate 30fps that's locked and smooth. Problem is, you just don't get that without having to resort to vsync, and even that's not guaranteed if it dips below 30. Input lag becomes a significant issue here.
With this tech, lower frames should be infinitely more tolerable.
As much as I prefer the smoothness of 60fps, I can tolerate 30fps that's locked and smooth. Problem is, you just don't get that without having to resort to vsync, and even that's not guaranteed if it dips below 30. Input lag becomes a significant issue here.
With this tech, lower frames should be infinitely more tolerable.
Windom Earle
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I really hope this becomes the new standard.
Says the guy still using those 580s
goddamn artist and his utilitarian thread titles. it's almost worth starting a new thread off the back off that sweeney quote.
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