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[Dantis]

Okay, that makes more sense. Persona has the largest singular team but it's the smaller overall R&D group.

I thought the Trauma series came from the Persona team too but I guess not?

I think Trauma was a mish-mash of devs. Meguro worked on the first and the third games, the art was done by Doi (Who had very minor roles in Persona 2 and Nocturne and things like that), the director was from Nocturne and Persona 3, Kobayashi wrote the third game, and he worked on things like Etrian Odyssey and Devil Survivor (And later Persona Arena).

Basically, Atlus have lots of employees who make lots of games.

So, people now buy Persona games because of the graphics?

No, but Soejima is an amazing artist, and I'd like that to be represented in the final product.

 

[Samyy]

So, people now buy Persona games because of the graphics?

No but I certainly don't want it to look worse then the PS2 games.
Especially when they have this Catherine engine lying around and experience developing on the big consoles.

 

[Logash]

No the game looks a lot better on Vita, even if its because of the screen to a degree. Also silly 2D battles and an over world where you move around this little weird cursor thing is just not what I think most people want from a new Persona game's city structure.

Just because it's on the 3DS doesn't mean it will have first person battles and that type of overworld. That was a design choice guys. The 3DS is powerful enough for a proper Persona game.

 

[clay_ghost]

No the game looks a lot better on Vita, even if its because of the screen to a degree. Also silly 2D battles and an over world where you move around this little weird cursor thing is just not what I think most people want from a new Persona game's city structure.

It does not to me :| I do own a vita in case you don't know.

Your point was that SMT4 look like ass but know you are auguring about others things. You do know if they want to they can have 3d battle and a real town like P4 for the 3DS.


And before anyone forget, i never said P5 will be for 3DS ITT, only that P5 have a chance on the wiiu port AND P3 for Vita.

 

[afoni]

Just because it's on the 3DS doesn't mean it will have first person battles and that type of overworld. That was a design choice guys. The 3DS is powerful enough for a proper Persona game.

It's not powerful enough to look as good as the last game in the series though.

 

[Asd202]

Okay let's be real on a technical level Persona 5 for 3DS would be a step back and it's not a 3DS game as they wouldn't work on it for so long if it was.

 

[fertygo]

Just because it's on the 3DS doesn't mean it will have first person battles and that type of overworld. That was a design choice guys. The 3DS is powerful enough for a proper Persona game.

Why SMTIV have FPV battle then?
Its a downgrade from PS2 game, I think that's what people afraid the most with Persona game in 3DS prospect.

 

[Pirabear]

Please be a Persona 5 announcement


...Just so every Persona 5 thread afterwords doesn't turn into console begging warz

 

[Samyy]

It does not to me :| I do own a vita in case you don't know.

Your point was that SMT4 look like ass but know you are auguring about others things. You do know if they want to they can have 3d battle and a real town like P4 for the 3DS.


And before anyone forget, i never said P5 will be for 3DS ITT, only that P5 have a chance on the wiiu port AND P3 for Vita.

Right and it will look like a poor PS2 game, no thanks.
And the ability to have a open world city etc. definitely plays into the limitations of the 3Ds.
Wii U doesn't even make senses btw, console isn't even popular in Japan. They on throwing their premier franchise on a console that is strugglingly that badly.

 

[Hot Coldman]

P5 on 3DS would be fine for me, because I'm in for the writing and the systems. Plus I feel like Persona, as Atlus' biggest money maker, would absolutely look better than SMTIV. It'd get the full treatment, with all the frills.

THAT SAID.

I'd rather have it on PS3/360. Just to finally escape the PS2 models and stuff. And so it'd be HD and the character portraits would shine and the like. Might as well make use of that experience on Catherine.

 

[Logash]

It's not powerful enough to look as good as the last game in the series though.

Why not though? If it can fit MGS3 why can't it fit P4? SMT4 looks WAY better in motion just like any 3DS game and most SMT games have first person battle systems. At worst it's a design choice based off cost but I'm pretty sure Atlus wouldn't skimp on its most popular franchise. That being said, I don't think it's going to be for the 3DS at all. PS360 is likely.

 

[clay_ghost]

It's not powerful enough to look as good as the last game in the series though.

?

Smt3 looks cleaner i can give you that, but its not far.

 

[sörine]

It's not powerful enough to look as good as the last game in the series though.

The last game was on PS2 and 3DS has managed games that look better than their PS2 counterparts like Monster Hunter or Resident Evil. There's no real reason a 3DS Persona 5 couldn't look better than Persona 4 did.

That said, I think Persona 5 is definitely a console game and won't be on 3DS anyway.

 

[Logash]

The last game was on PS2 and 3DS has managed games that look better than their PS2 counterparts like Monster Hunter or Resident Evil. There's no real reason a 3DS Persona 5 couldn't look better than Persona 4 did.

That said, I think Persona 5 is definitely a console game and won't be on 3DS anyway.

Agreed, it's like if you defend the 3DS you're automatically port begging. It's ridiculous.

 

[flatearthpandas]

Why SMTIV have FPV battle then?
Its a downgrade from PS2 game, I think that's what people afraid the most with Persona game in 3DS prospect.

To accomodate having 3x the demons as Nocturne and a decent amount over P4 as well. Also, real dungeons and several different 3D cities with locations larger than a single screen.

It isn't perfect but please don't let's pretend that SMTIV has no features better than Nocturne or even P4 Golden.

Strange Journey still has the best gameplay imo

 

[Samyy]

Agreed, it's like if you defend the 3DS you're automatically port begging. It's ridiculous.

Its really funny how you think that, considering 3DS gets a shit ton of games anyway.
Can't handle even the slightest knocks against the system without getting upset?

 

[clay_ghost]

To accomodate having 3x the demons as Nocturne and a decent amount over P4 as well. Also, real dungeons and several different 3D cities with locations larger than a single screen.

It isn't perfect but please don't let's pretend that SMTIV has no features better than Nocturne or even P4 Golden.

Strange Journey still has the best gameplay imo

All these but i think those complaining have not really played SMT4.

But Nocturne have Dante , Nintendo should have made Tingle unlockable or something.

Its really funny how you think that, considering 3DS gets a shit ton of games anyway.
Can't handle even the slightest knocks against the system without getting upset?

But your knocks does not even make sense knowing what 3DS is capable of.

Its like saying Vita games look like shit because of P4:golden. When you have games like Killzone on it.

 

[Silurus]

P5 for Vita please.

 

[Dascu]

JRPG series like Persona are a dying breed, and you people are bickering like schoolyard kids. Buy the game whatever electronic device it comes out on. It'll be a fine game no matter what the hardware and how many polygons are on Mara's veiny skin.

 

[BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO]

If that's the case, PS3 & Wii U.

There is no point of a WiiU version, a Vita or PS4 version is much more likely.

 

[Logash]

Its really funny how you think that, considering 3DS gets a shit ton of games anyway.
Can't handle even the slightest knocks against the system without getting upset?

Not at all, I love my 3DS but I am way more of a Playstation gamer. Look at my post history, I barley talk about the 3DS at all. I sincerely think the 3DS can handle games with PS2 graphics if not better. I'm sorry if you read that as testy but I'm just saying what I see and think. No console prejudice at all.

Edit: Also I want to add that I would prefer P5 on PS3 or Vita because I would really want to see it with Cathrine like graphics. My issue is with people saying the 3DS is weaker than the PS2 when I really don't think it is.

 

[Septimus]

Hoping for at least PS3. But if by some grace of god it ends up being PS4 (which in turn means Vita streaming) I'll be ecstatic!

 

[Logash]

Hoping for at least PS3. But if by some grace of god it ends up being PS4 (which in turn means Vita streaming) I'll be ecstatic!

Me too, I wish more Japanese devs would jump on next gen. I'm no grahpics whore but I really want Japan to embrace the PS4 like they did the PS2. I know that's almost impossible but eh, a guy can dream.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Hoping for at least PS3. But if by some grace of god it ends up being PS4 (which in turn means Vita streaming) I'll be ecstatic!

A PS4 announcement would probably be the best scenario for me for the crazy/positive reactions, which I guess is like the people who would want a 3DS announcement for the crazy/negative reactions.

 

[clay_ghost]

A PS4 announcement would probably be the best scenario for me for the crazy/positive reactions, which I guess is like the people who would want a 3DS announcement for the crazy/negative reactions.

The best reactions will be IOS with Sonic and friends as the MCs.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Hoping for at least PS3. But if by some grace of god it ends up being PS4 (which in turn means Vita streaming) I'll be ecstatic!

The best that will happen is PS3/PS4. No way would it be a next gen exclusive lol.

 

[Neoxon]

There is no point of a WiiU version, a Vita or PS4 version is much more likely.

Atlus and Sega's positive relationship with Nintendo, the fact that they now have a working engine on the Wii U thanks to SMTxFE. It's not as unlikely as you think.....not guaranteed, but within the realm of possibility.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

A PS4 announcement would probably be the best scenario for me for the crazy/positive reactions, which I guess is like the people who would want a 3DS announcement for the crazy/negative reactions.

People who want it for 3DS are either:

1) sadists who want to see the negative reactions
2) 3DS fans who desperately want the game on the platform, but because the chance of P5 being on the 3DS are so low and the notion is so absurd they mask it by saying " I want it to be on the 3DS just for the reactions".

Its difficult to differentiate between 1 and 2 but there are ways.

Atlus and Sega's positive relationship with Nintendo, the fact that they now have a working engine on the Wii U thanks to SMTxFE. It's not as unlikely as you think.....not guaranteed, but within the realm of possibility.

Sega has a positive relationship with Nintendo....did that result in Yakuza Ishin for the WiiU..nope. People who use SMTxFE as some kind of justification are just fooling themselves. Did Namco collaborating with Nintendo on Smash help the WiiU get all, heck even some of the NB games. The answer was no.

 

[Dascu]

People who want it for 3DS are either:

1) sadists who want to see the negative reactions
2) 3DS fans who desperately want the game on the platform, but because the chance of P5 being on the 3DS are so low and the notion is so absurd they mask it by saying " I want it to be on the 3DS just for the reactions".

Its difficult to differentiate between 1 and 2 but there are ways.

Or some people like the portability aspect, or think the second screen is useful for the map/demon descriptions.

 

[Logash]

Atlus and Sega's positive relationship with Nintendo, the fact that they now have a working engine on the Wii U thanks to SMTxFE. It's not as unlikely as you think.....not guaranteed, but within the realm of possibility.

I doubt the Sega purchase will effect P5 so late in its development but the SMTxFE thing might mean something. I just think sales are too low but eh maybe. There is always a chance.

 

[Parmenides]

Since this is from the japanese playstation community, it is pretty obvious it will be on a Sony platform.

Shu Yoshida Twitter (Sep 26)

Actually now is a fantastic time to release Persona 5 on PS3. The userbase is mature and software sales have been consistent all year. Persona 4 was released in 2008. Persona is also hardly a major system seller like FF or DQ.

makes a lot of sense. So, PS3 or PS3+PSV ?

Isn't the 3DS the most popular gaming machine in Japan?

If the next big Persona game is anywhere, it will be there.

handhelds are like certain NBA players: they put up empty stats.

 Famitsu Top 30 – Since 3DS Launch (Feb 21,2011 – Oct 20,2013)

Third Party SW        TOT           TOT - (MH + DQ)
------------------------------------------------------

    PS3            21,571,454         21,184,095

    3DS            16,657,758         9,792,933

    PSV            2,529,989          2,529,989
 
    Wii U          293,928            41,137

That said, P5 would sell well on PSV or 3DS. The difference is that the PS3 could sell P5 in Japan and the West.

 

[EMT0]

Atlus and Sega's positive relationship with Nintendo, the fact that they now have a working engine on the Wii U thanks to SMTxFE. It's not as unlikely as you think.....not guaranteed, but within the realm of possibility.

Isn't Intelligent Systems making SMTxFE? So wouldn't that mean....no working Wii U engine?

And Sega has a positive relationship with Nintendo in regards to Sonic. Everything else, and I do mean everything, is usually Sony-focused. Yakuza, Valkyria Chronicles, Phantasy Star, Miku, etc. So I'm really not seeing it.

While I could see a Wii-U version being released, it makes no financial sense for Atlus to publish it on there. Nintendo would have to pay for a Wii-U port in all likelihood. As for the 3DS....guys, Catherine was made as a test run for Persona 5. On PS360. They've developed an in-house engine based on their results with Catherine. For Persona.

We're not getting a Persona 5 3DS game.

 

[Sorian]

Please be a Persona 5 announcement


...Just so every Persona 5 thread afterwords doesn't turn into console begging warz

"Per5ona coming to.......guess you'll just have to wait and see"

Or some people like the portability aspect, or think the second screen is useful for the map/demon descriptions.

First bolded is solved by the obvious cross-play that will be with the vita and seconded bolded is probably the only pro in a sea of cons and its not even that important of a pro.

 

[BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO]

Atlus and Sega's positive relationship with Nintendo, the fact that they now have a working engine on the Wii U thanks to SMTxFE. It's not as unlikely as you think.....not guaranteed, but within the realm of possibility.

That means nothing, and IntSys is making SMTxFE, not Atlus. From a financial perspective it makes no sense, they have nothing to gain from a WiiU version. Also Hashino and the Persona team have free reign over there, and Hashino/the persona team have never touched a Nintendo console. 360 has a better chance than WiiU.

 

[Caronte]

That means nothing, and IntSys is making SMTxFE, not Atlus. From a financial perspective it makes no sense, they have nothing to gain from a WiiU version. Also Hashino and the Persona team have free reign over there, and Hashino/the persona team have never touched a Nintendo console. 360 has a better chance than WiiU.

Citation needed.

 

[clay_ghost]

That means nothing, and IntSys is making SMTxFE, not Atlus. From a financial perspective it makes no sense, they have nothing to gain from a WiiU version. Also Hashino and the Persona team have free reign over there, and Hashino/the persona team have never touched a Nintendo console. 360 has a better chance than WiiU.

There is no confirmation on who is making the game, the trailers shows Atlus present at the start with only IntSys at the end together with the Atlus logo so it could goes both ways.

Not sure why everyone dismiss a Wiiu port.The chances are still higher than MH4 coming to vita at least.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Or some people like the portability aspect, or think the second screen is useful for the map/demon descriptions.

Funny because nearly every time someone said they wanted it to be on 3DS in this thread was due to the negative reactions such an announcement would get.

Secondly, having descriptions is cool but I can just hit the start button if I want to see that stuff in a dungeon. Persona games don't require you to look at the screen 24/7 like a racing game would. Not to mention there are more cons for Persona being on a handheld than pros.

 

[BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO]

Citation needed.

looks like atlus is co-developing but the game was nintendo's idea. I'd assume they are leading the development.

There is no confirmation on who is making the game, the trailers shows Atlus present at the start with only IntSys at the end together with the Atlus logo so it could goes both ways.
Not sure why everyone dismiss a Wiiu port.The chances are still higher than MH4 coming to vita at least.

Like MH4 Vita, the company has nothing to gain by doing it.

 

[clay_ghost]

Funny because nearly every time someone said they wanted it to be on 3DS in this thread was due to the negative reactions such an announcement would get.

Secondly, having descriptions is cool but I can just hit the start button if I want to see that stuff in a dungeon. Persona games don't require you to look at the screen 24/7 like a racing game would. Not to mention there are more cons for Persona being on a handheld than pros.

I much prefers Persona on my PSP and Vita than on my TV. RPG should be all be on portables if i can have my way.

looks like atlus is co-developing but the game was nintendo's idea. I'd assume they are leading the development.



Like MH4 Vita, the company has nothing to gain by doing it.

Unlike MH there is no local mutil player aspects in persona yet (outside of P4:A) . So they will have noting to loss unlike having MH4 not many platforms that split user base.

 

[Meia]

I much prefers Persona on my PSP and Vita than on my TV. RPG should be all be on portables if i can have my way.



Unlike MH there is no local mutil player aspects in persona yet (outside of P4:A) . So they will have noting to loss unlike having MH4 not many platforms that split user base.

And when a handheld RPG can match the presentation of a console one, I will readily agree with this.

 

[clay_ghost]

And when a handheld RPG can match the presentation of a console one, I will readily agree with this.

They already do since last gen , you are missing out so many great RPG that looks good from the PSP and DS gen

 

[ATXAlchemy]

>people arguing about preference between TV and handheld.

They should release on Vita, then. It's both a home console and a handheld.

 

[EMT0]

They already do since last gen , you are missing out so many great RPG that looks good from the PSP and DS gen

I like my JRPGs on handhelds. I love Persona 4 Golden to death. I'd be ecstatic with a Vita version of Persona 5.

But Persona 5 will be a console title, and a Vita version will come out at some point if we're lucky.

 

[Snakeyes]

Ugh @ all the fanboyism on both sides ITT.

The Persona games are still not getting as much exposure as they deserve, so I would prefer if P5 was released on anything that can handle it.

PS3, PS4, Vita, Wii U, 360, XB1 and PC would be amazing.

 

[BosSin]

If only they would make Persona 5 exclusive to the Ouya

 

[LuchaShaq]

Just because it's on the 3DS doesn't mean it will have first person battles and that type of overworld. That was a design choice guys. The 3DS is powerful enough for a proper Persona game.

I love my 3ds, but when games like pokemon with 3d off even has frame rate issues I highly doubt your statement unless they make huge concessions.

 

[Red Blaster]

handhelds are like certain NBA players: they put up empty stats.

 Famitsu Top 30 – Since 3DS Launch (Feb 21,2011 – Oct 20,2013)

Third Party SW        TOT           TOT - (MH + DQ)
------------------------------------------------------

    PS3            21,571,454         21,184,095

    3DS            16,657,758         9,792,933

    PSV            2,529,989          2,529,989
 
    Wii U          293,928            41,137

That said, P5 would sell well on PSV or 3DS. The difference is that the PS3 could sell P5 in Japan and the West.

so the 3ds is like handheld version of carlos boozer

 

[Deleted member 125677]

It would be awesome if P5 was 3DS/Vita multiplat

We could all share in on the love and there would be no more war between vitagaf and 3dsgaf 4ever <3

That being said, my guess would be that it will be a ps3/vita game

 

[sörine]

Its really funny how you think that, considering 3DS gets a shit ton of games anyway.
Can't handle even the slightest knocks against the system without getting upset?

Why "handle" a "knock" when it's patently untrue? Is pointing it out really that much of an overreaction in your eyes?

 

[clay_ghost]

I love my 3ds, but when games like pokemon with 3d off even has frame rate issues I highly doubt your statement unless they make huge concessions.

Gamefreak is never good at hardware. Pokemon p/d is slower compared to Platinum . Black and white then speed up again from Platinum .

Hell P/D is slower than the GBA games :/