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DF/JF: Battlefield 4 PS4 vs XB1 videos/screens (900p PS4, 720p XB1)

Just from those gifs and screen grabs it looks like the XB1 version looks better. Saying that I haven't watched the videos on full screen. Even further, I'm not getting this game any more because everyone says the SP campaign is crappy and that is all I'm buying it for...
 
When you have the console at home (this applies to the PS3 and 360 as well), you should look for your RGB settings. There are two options. One sets RGB to 'full', the other to 'limited'. Your television might also have a setting that must be adjusted based on how you have it set. On my Samsung LCD, I would have to set the HDMI Black Level to either 'low' or 'normal' to get the proper colors and avoid black crush or a washed out look. The combination should be either:

RGB Full + HDMI Black Level Normal
or
RGB Limited + HDMI Black Level Low

Full + Low = Black Crush.
Limited + Normal = Washed out.
Keep in mind, some televisions don't allow for a full RGB setting.

Thanks for this post. A lot of users should play with their settings lol.
 

TUROK

Member
The salt in this thread is fucking incredible. Holy shit, it's fantastic.

The Xbox One version is more pleasing to my eyes, and to a lot of other people's eyes. Feel free to cry about how wrong we are. Delicious tears.
 
There is a staggering difference here.

ib0gOrDzD8ScKG.gif

Seriously, the PS4 version seems to use 256MB of textures like PS3. Blur, blur everywhere.
 

twobear

sputum-flecked apoplexy
Resolution looks like the main differentiator. 720p vs. 900p is about what you'd expect on paper.

At least it's tacit confirmation that they're not being paid to gimp the PS4 version.
 

dark10x

Digital Foundry pixel pusher
Do you know that for a fact? Because on 360, the default output is closer to PS3's 'Full' output, and results in a darker, more saturated and contrasting image, isn't it?
Actually, you're right, the 360 DID do that, didn't it? It's entirely possible that they've decided to do the same thing on XB1. As long as there is a way to correct it (which appears to be the case), I'll be OK, but it's really dishonest and stupid.
 

kitch9

Banned
The salt in this thread is fucking incredible. Holy shit, it's fantastic.

The Xbox One version is more pleasing to my eyes, and to a lot of other people's eyes. Feel free to cry about how wrong we are. Delicious tears.

There's a lot of delusion also apparently.
 
Wait, how do those screens look better than anything in the DF article?

Because digital foundry is in the market of getting clicks from console players who want to know which version is less sub native res or which version has worse texture filtering or which one tears a bit less than the other.

Last gen they kept comparing the console screenshots to 720p screenshots on pc (lol)
And I believe before that (though I may be confusing the website here) they used some low end pc and didn't even crank up the settings.

It would piss off ms and sony (who provide them with their pr material and early builds that they use to make their comparisons) if every single comparison with small differences looked stupid compared to proper screenshots of the pc version

It would also lose them a lot of viewers if every article showed that they are just playing a vastly inferior version...
 

Showaddy

Member
The salt in this thread is fucking incredible. Holy shit, it's fantastic.

The Xbox One version is more pleasing to my eyes, and to a lot of other people's eyes. Feel free to cry about how wrong we are. Delicious tears.

I think you need to sort your glasses out lol
 
The salt in this thread is fucking incredible. Holy shit, it's fantastic.

The Xbox One version is more pleasing to my eyes, and to a lot of other people's eyes. Feel free to cry about how wrong we are. Delicious tears.

Pretty much. It's incredible. I personally don't like to have my games look like the screen was smeared with vaseline and I feel like I'm not alone.
 

f@luS

More than a member.
If you want these crushed black you can , go in hdmi setting

xb1 doesnt leave u choice as ps4 will most likely

ps4 IQ looks much cleaner , resolution higher , framerater better , more effect


its an utter stomp on the xb1...
 

Ty4on

Member
Could you kindly highlight those details on the front of the weapon?

Sure.
VkA2MhT.png

The ribbons on the front are much easier to distinguish on the PS4 pic. I can count seven on the PS4 and three, maybe four on the One. Xbox One is the one with all the jaggies on the truck and bright reflection from the ground. Lightning is quite different and it seems like the pictures were cropped so the comparison is a bit flawed.
 
Are people serious when they say the Xbox One version looks better? It's lower res, has lower fps, the jaggies are insane and the contrast/shadows is all messed up, dark areas are so black they eat all the details you see in the PS4/PC version.
 

cyberheater

PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 Xbone PS4 PS4
you mean the randomly generated camo on the uniforms? or the artificially "sharper" Xbone textures due to the wonky gamma in the DF vids?

the sky as in the dark clouds? yes, though i think the PS4's clouds look better inverted like that]

I'll spell it out for you as you're having a hard time understanding.

PC version:-

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Xbox One version:-

cjes9jS.jpg


PS4 version:-

ulcFYBk.jpg


The Xbox One and PC versions both have the same textures on the arm and the skybox which shows the Xbox One version was built off the PC build.
For some reason they PS4 version is different.
 

dark10x

Digital Foundry pixel pusher
The salt in this thread is fucking incredible. Holy shit, it's fantastic.

The Xbox One version is more pleasing to my eyes, and to a lot of other people's eyes. Feel free to cry about how wrong we are. Delicious tears.
What you're completely missing is that you too can crush the blacks on the PS4 and PC if you like.
 
Okay so looking at the DF footage I thought the image on XBone clearly looked better but now that these other comparisons are out its no contest. Xbone looks significantly worse. If DF truly is trying to skew perception here it might be one of the shadiest things I have ever seen.



Thats pretty huge difference man. Especially in motion. That looks like a HIGH to MED equivalent to me but that just what I am seeing.

I haven't seen the blurriness or washed out effect on the PS4 version in any other footage or screencaps from other sites either. I would give Digital Foundry the benefit of the doubt on this, but we know their history of late.
 
Everything is better in the PS4 version except for a thing that ruins it all, that fucking screen filter that blurs every texture. Look at the sleeve in those pics. In the XB1 you can see the clothing pores and in the PS4 you blink your eyes as it seems you suddenly are shortsighted.

This is what I don't like about the PS4 version.
Not sure what it is, whether the solution to aliasing is causing it or whatever, but the PS4 version looks very blurry - which is why I prefer looking at the Xbone version, which actually has contrast.
 
All i've learned is that if my Ps4 per order got cancelled and I got an xbone this holiday I wouldn't be disappointed.


How people think that the lighting on the Xbox One version is better is beyond me:

ib0gOrDzD8ScKG.gif

This really is the best side by side comparison i've seen. Shows whats lost from one version to the next pretty clearly. Pretty undeniable.
 

Amir0x

Banned
So let me get this right.

PS4 wins with

Less aliasing
900p
More consistent framerate
AO

But... A weird blurry look due to software upscaler?
 
Pretty much. It's incredible. I personally don't like to have my games look like the screen was smeared with vaseline and I feel like I'm not alone.

Well, good news! You can make your game ON ANY console or PC look like some Instagram photo on ANY TV that you want. Just go right into your contrast settings and crank it to the max.
 

Piggus

Member
The salt in this thread is fucking incredible. Holy shit, it's fantastic.

The Xbox One version is more pleasing to my eyes, and to a lot of other people's eyes. Feel free to cry about how wrong we are. Delicious tears.

You're not wrong to enjoy less detail, less stable framerate, horrible aliasing/shimmering and missing lighting effects. But it's definitely an odd preference to have.
 

bGanci

Banned
Sure.
VkA2MhT.png

The ribbons on the front are much easier to distinguish on the PS4 pic. I can count seven on the PS4 and three, maybe four on the One. Xbox One is the one with all the jaggies on the truck and bright reflection from the ground. Lightning is quite different and it seems like the pictures were cropped so the comparison is a bit flawed.

The gun is on a angle bro......look at the left hand position.....He is doing that Idle gun thing...That is why you can't see the "Ribbons"
 

Metfanant

Member
But it's not. PC and Xbox One versions both have the same textures.
random doesn't mean an infinite number of possibilities....DF clearly states that camo and even ground textures seem to be randomly generated...

Do you know that for a fact? Because on 360, the default output is closer to PS3's 'Full' output, and results in a darker, more saturated and contrasting image, isn't it?
considering EVERY other comparison does not have the oversaturated colors...yeah i think its a pretty good bet

Why have such an attitude? Not very helpful for the discussion.
to be fair when youve read the same comment eleventybillion times because people dont bother to read...its annoying
 

Majmun

Member
The salt in this thread is fucking incredible. Holy shit, it's fantastic.

The Xbox One version is more pleasing to my eyes, and to a lot of other people's eyes. Feel free to cry about how wrong we are. Delicious tears.

Delusion at its finest
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
Wow, this thread is huge. Reading just the last page though makes me somewhat suspicious of how many people have their TVs calibrated.
 
How people think that the lighting on the Xbox One version is better is beyond me:

ib0gOrDzD8ScKG.gif

it looks a LOT more natural on the PS4. The dark areas are completly crushed on the XBOX ONE version (a lot of detail just vanished). The aliassing is just horrendous. textures are a bit charper though (due to equally horrendous sharpening. turn that shit off).

It's as if they turned on Full Range RGB while it wasn't supported.
 

rvy

Banned
Are people serious when they say the Xbox One version looks better? It's lower res, has lower fps, the jaggies are insane and the contrast/shadows is all messed up, dark areas are so black they eat all the details you see in the PS4/PC version.
Calm down, bruh, The TOS doesn't force people to read the thread before giving us their wonderful opinions.
 
Seriously, the PS4 version seems to use 256MB of textures like PS3. Blur, blur everywhere.

Where as the Xbone version looks grainy and razor sharp...contrast is far too high. Its pretty obvious textures are the same, but personally i think the contrast doesn't do the game any favours on the Xbone version. Would prefer the PS4 version to be crisper though. PC footage I have seen also has soft image as well though
 

KKRT00

Member
I thought that difference would be bigger. Lack of HBAO, resolution cuts and a worse quality of FXAA is not really that big of difference for 50% difference in CU.

It was quite logical that there wont be 50% performance difference between two platforms and we have first proof.

Interested to see MP comparisons from retail units, because thats performance meat of BF games.
 

dark10x

Digital Foundry pixel pusher
Last gen they kept comparing the console screenshots to 720p screenshots on pc (lol)
And I believe before that (though I may be confusing the website here) they used some low end pc and didn't even crank up the settings.
You DO realize that those comparisons were designed to eliminate resolution as a metric, right? It's common knowledge that the PC can use any desired resolution but that's not the point of the comparison.

I thought that difference would be bigger. Lack of HBAO, resolution cuts and a worse quality of FXAA is not really that big of difference for 50% difference in CU.

It was quite logical that there wont be 50% performance difference between two platforms and we have first proof.
Uh, this is proof of a more than 50% increase in performance. That's precisely what the difference in resolution represents.
 

stonesak

Okay, if you really insist
So let me get this right.

PS4 wins with

Less aliasing
900p
More consistent framerate
AO

But... A weird blurry look due to software upscaler?

Watch Jack Frags videos. The blurriness isn't nearly as bad as these screens make it seem.
 

TUROK

Member
I think you need to sort your glasses out lol
I think you need to accept the fact that "better" is subjective, and that some people prefer the sharper look of the Xbox One version to the blurrier PS4 look.

The fact that there's a lot of people getting bent out of shape over people's aesthetic preferences about a game's graphics is just pathetic to a frightening degree.
 

Huggers

Member
The Xbone version seems to have more Jaggies than Mick Jagger doing Jager bombs whilst driving a Jaguar

Sorry

Seriously though, I'm happy after playing in the appalling looking PS3 Beta. To me the PS4 version looks stunning
 
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