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Infinity Ward confirms: CoD Ghost is 720p on Xbox One, 1080p on PS4

Tabular

Banned
So Infinity Warm gimped the PS4 version by making it 1080p?

Well no... they would just optimize each platform to they're respective strengths. 720p frees up resources for other stuff. I'm not saying xbone will get a better version. But maybe, just maybe certain advantages?
 

Sanke__

Member
ESRAM and poor dev tools will improve, they are stuck with weaker architecture, but so far is seems the complaints seem to be from the esram and tools. Cboat even said as much.

but didnt he
(EDIT: or she?...now i feel bad)
also say the ESRAM is a problem for the life of the hardware?

EDIT:(i could very likely be completely wrong of where is idea came from or that it came from somewhere at all/ the interpretation of what i read - i would not consider myself a reliable source in this circumstance...but it is a question)
 

USC-fan

Banned
Like some others have said, 125% more pixels does not equate to a 125% performance (i.e., framerate) difference. Performance does not scale linearly with resolution increases/decreases. For example, here are some MW2 benchmarks:

Call-of-Duty-Modern-Warfare-2-Highest-Details-No-AA.png

Source: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-a-pc-overclock-athlon-ii-x3,2811-12.html

The performance (i.e., framerate) difference between 1920x1080 (black bars) and 1280x720 (blue bars) is 30-40% at most.
That misleading as those chart are cpu bound not gpu.
 

CraZed

Member
Have you ever considered that with that 125% increase of pixels, it's not a 125% increase in fun? In fact, I bet all that time spent allocating resources towards 1080p, IW couldn't fit in as much fun as the 720p versions. Just something to mull over.

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Atlas157

Member
Well no... they would just optimize each platform to they're respective strengths. 720p frees up resources for other stuff. I'm not saying xbone will get a better version. But maybe, just maybe certain advantages?

There's a reason it's 720p 60fps.

If they include more and better effects and detail, it wouldn't be 60fps.
 

nib95

Banned
Like some others have said, 125% more pixels does not equate to a 125% performance (i.e., framerate) difference. Performance does not scale linearly with resolution increases/decreases. For example, here are some MW2 benchmarks:

Call-of-Duty-Modern-Warfare-2-Highest-Details-No-AA.png

Source: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-a-pc-overclock-athlon-ii-x3,2811-12.html

The performance (i.e., framerate) difference between 1920x1080 (black bars) and 1280x720 (blue bars) is 30-40% at most.

It can mean that much more performance. It depends entirely on the hardware being tested. The better the hardware, the higher the performance hit ceiling and less of an impact on performance the different resolutions have. The weaker the hardware, the more of a difference they have. That's partly why the Xbox One is struggling compared to the PS4. It's GPU has a much lower performance hit ceiling.
 
Well no... they would just optimize each platform to they're respective strengths. 720p frees up resources for other stuff. I'm not saying xbone will get a better version. But maybe, just maybe certain advantages?

sorry Tabular but the only 'advantage' XB1 has is kinect, and not a lot of 3rd party multiplatform games will use it...

the PS4 simply destroys the XB1 on every metric it goes up against...
 

Sanke__

Member
Like some others have said, 125% more pixels does not equate to a 125% performance (i.e., framerate) difference. Performance does not scale linearly with resolution increases/decreases. For example, here are some MW2 benchmarks:

Call-of-Duty-Modern-Warfare-2-Highest-Details-No-AA.png

Source: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-a-pc-overclock-athlon-ii-x3,2811-12.html

The performance (i.e., framerate) difference between 1920x1080 (black bars) and 1280x720 (blue bars) is 30-40% at most.

i feel like an idiot i'm tired
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
After everything that has happened its apparent now that Albert really was just PR'ing the whole time he's been here.

I don't know why but this post was so sad to me. Like you have to imagine the realization that none of the big companies actually give a shit and it's crushing.

When I was a kid, they were giving away a doorknocker that had a little arrow hand that you could point to DO NOT DISTURB or DOING HOMEWORK or READING or SLEEPING with your Scholastic book order over $5. and I was like OMGGGGG IT COMES WITH A CAMERA THAT YOU LINK UP TO YOUR ROOM AND IT IS SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING

I explicitly remember this. Like vividly to this day. And then you get the fucking box from that shitty fucking company and you tear it open and you're like WHERE IS THE CAMERA WHERE IS THE CAMERA WHERE WHERE and it turns out its a piece of paper manufactured in like 20 seconds

And that's when you realize Albert Pennelo thinks you're dumb.
 
Have you ever considered that with that 125% increase of pixels, it's not a 125% increase in fun? In fact, I bet all that time spent allocating resources towards 1080p, IW couldn't fit in as much fun as the 720p versions. Just something to mull over.

Thank you for showing me the truth.

bsk3.jpg
 

Tabular

Banned
Like some others have said, 125% more pixels does not equate to a 125% performance (i.e., framerate) difference. Performance does not scale linearly with resolution increases/decreases. For example, here are some MW2 benchmarks:

Call-of-Duty-Modern-Warfare-2-Highest-Details-No-AA.png

Source: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-a-pc-overclock-athlon-ii-x3,2811-12.html

The performance (i.e., framerate) difference between 1920x1080 (black bars) and 1280x720 (blue bars) is 30-40% at most.

Yep. Good point. Thanks for your response.
 

hawk2025

Member
I don't know why but this post was so sad to me. Like you have to imagine the realization that none of the big companies actually give a shit and it's crushing.

When I was a kid, they were giving away a doorknocker that had a little arrow hand that you could point to DO NOT DISTURB or DOING HOMEWORK or READING or SLEEPING with your Scholastic book order over $5. and I was like OMGGGGG IT COMES WITH A CAMERA THAT YOU LINK UP TO YOUR ROOM AND IT IS SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING

I explicitly remember this. Like vividly to this day. And then you get the fucking box from that shitty fucking company and you tear it open and you're like WHERE IS THE CAMERA WHERE IS THE CAMERA WHERE WHERE and it turns out its a piece of paper manufactured in like 20 seconds

And that's when you realize Albert Pennelo thinks you're dumb.



I said goddamn.

So, so true.
 

Despera

Banned
sorry Tabular but the only 'advantage' XB1 has is kinect, and not a lot of 3rd party multiplatform games will use it...

the PS4 simply destroys the XB1 on every metric it goes up against...
Can you change your PS4 wallpaper? What about listening to some MP3s?

I guess not every metric then...
 

todd360

Member
That hardly holds weight anymore. Next gen mp games are 60fps now. IW and Treyarch have got to up the graphics and actually try. Treyarch will bring the goods next year.

By goods you mean the same game as always? Call of Duty will never manage to impress me with these yearly releases. They need to take a few years off to actually build a new one from the ground up.
 
Came for the outrage, gloating and denial stayed for the GIFs.

But all kidding aside. There is clearly a performance issue that won't be solved easily. MS needs to summon it's very own ICE team stat!

The ICE team was one of the smartest things Sony did this gen. It also helped shape many of the intelligent decisions that went into the PS4.

Microsoft would do well to have thier own ICE team.
 

frizby

Member
I don't know why but this post was so sad to me. Like you have to imagine the realization that none of the big companies actually give a shit and it's crushing.

When I was a kid, they were giving away a doorknocker that had a little arrow hand that you could point to DO NOT DISTURB or DOING HOMEWORK or READING or SLEEPING with your Scholastic book order over $5. and I was like OMGGGGG IT COMES WITH A CAMERA THAT YOU LINK UP TO YOUR ROOM AND IT IS SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING

I explicitly remember this. Like vividly to this day. And then you get the fucking box from that shitty fucking company and you tear it open and you're like WHERE IS THE CAMERA WHERE IS THE CAMERA WHERE WHERE and it turns out its a piece of paper manufactured in like 20 seconds

And that's when you realize Albert Pennelo thinks you're dumb.

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nib95

Banned
Can you change your PS4 wallpaper? What about listening to some MP3s?

I guess not every metric then...

Wallpaper and MP3's eh? Is that what it has come down to? Lol.

On a side note, Yosp is listening. Hope they add this functionality in at some point.
 

IN&OUT

Banned
Can you change your PS4 wallpaper? What about listening to some MP3s?

I guess not every metric then...

how sad bringing some PS4 aspects that can be implemented through a firmware update. also you can listen to MP3 on PS4, it's just you have to purchase it through music unlimited. something you do with EVERYTHING on X1. so what's your point again?
 

Odrion

Banned
I think this is probably IW's failure than anyone else's. COD: Ghosts doesn't look like it should be 720p for any platform.
 
Can you change your PS4 wallpaper? What about listening to some MP3s?

I guess not every metric then...

Dude, that doesn't even make sense. I think people buying an X1 should just accept they're buying a weaker machine and be done with it. You know what you're getting, if you still want one then all the power to you, but stop trying to argue that it's on par with the PS4, it just isn't.

I think this is probably IW's failure than anyone else's. COD: Ghosts doesn't look like it should be 720p for any platform.


I would agree, but IW isn't the only one having issues getting their games up to 1080. In fact, only Forza 5 is launching at 1080p on the X1.
 
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You can laugh all you want, but think about it. If there are really that many more pixels in a 1080p game, then wouldn't they need more than twice the employees to fill in the graphics for those pixels? The employees who work on the fun parts of the PS4 version will have to spend more time making graphics for the extra pixels.
 

BigDug13

Member
By goods you mean the same game as always? Call of Duty will never manage to impress me with these yearly releases. They need to take a few years off to actually build a new one from the ground up.

Uhh, it's not like the yearly releases are from the same company. IW hasn't done a CoD game on its own since MW2. MW3 wasn't them alone and the others in between are mostly Treyarch. So 4 years between full IW lone-wolf development of CoD, 2 years between IW involvement in a CoD release.
 
Is this really what it's come down to? Oh man.

I hate to get involved in the whole console war thing, but when your argument is a the ability to do two mundane features that I can do on my phone, tablet and PC and do not effect gameplay in any way, shape or form (and also added later in a simple firmware update) it's probably time to give up.
 

Kssio_Aug

Member
Yeah... 1st BF4 comparison, now this. Also PS4 games runs at higher resolutions and looks more impressive. I think have nothing to discuss about which one is more powerfull.

I swear I was not expecting this much of a difference. Not really.
 

Hrothgar

Member
You can laugh all you want, but think about it. If there are really that many more pixels in a 1080p game, then wouldn't they need more than twice the employees to fill in the graphics for those pixels? The employees who work on the fun parts of the PS4 version will have to spend more time making graphics for the extra pixels.

Lewl. Serious?
 

Raist

Banned
You can laugh all you want, but think about it. If there are really that many more pixels in a 1080p game, then wouldn't they need more than twice the employees to fill in the graphics for those pixels? The employees who work on the fun parts of the PS4 version will have to spend more time making graphics for the extra pixels.

Employees? No. They just needed 11.25B transistors.
 
I think people should just wait until the gameplay video comes out. All this speculation is almost useless, and really, how many people in COD's player base are going to criticize each version based on graphics? The developers knew what their fans wanted when they went with 60 fps. Now does the $100 difference in console price matter? Probably has a pretty heavy weight, especially when it is the more powerful console, but other factors include where are their friends going and how much brand loyalty do they have. People that don't have an established gaming community of friends will look at the PS4, see that it is cheaper, maybe see that it is more powerful, and chose that to play their COD and sports games on. It'll be an interesting come Spring 2014 to really see how each console is doing.
 
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