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Xbox One UI vid w/Snap

Well...

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That's corroboration, not breaking things like he does on his blog/staking his rep on it like he does everything else. got 1080p BF4 wrong too, but when in Rome...

Like I said, I want moar. Cough it up MS. Give us the deetz! Getting real tired of this evade game
 

Godslay

Banned
DING DING DING

We already had reports of this causing problem with games. Running both apps has to take some power away from gaming. Its just common sense.

They have yet to really show why this is worth it. Seem half baked....

Surprise surprise. What took you so long to show up to this thread?
 

Caayn

Member
Did anyone get an Amazon update today regarding day one arrival?
Just checked my order on Amazon UK but nothing changed, and didn't recieve an update of any kind in the past month. What does the update say? Mine is still scheduled for day one delivery :D
 
Oh lord. Yes, I heard that snap was causing problems. I'm still hearing that snap is causing problems. What i wrote about on my blog has nothing to do with snap.
 
Will be nice to use when that eventually comes to the XB1.

Hrm? If Dell is to be believed, all Windows 8 apps work on XB1, right?

It'd make sense for all the snap stuff too, considering that's a Windows 8 thing and I'm pretty sure this is how they want people to move to that.

Basically XBone is a gateway drug to the other things ^_^
 
Oh lord. Yes, I heard that snap was causing problems. I'm still hearing that snap is causing problems. What i wrote about on my blog has nothing to do with snap.

Apologies, I was basing my comments off that tweet.

Can you expand on what you're hearing. Does it crash after prolonged use or are the crashes game specific.
 
I found a pic of the man cave on my phone from when I first got the TVs mounted. Sorry it isnt a very good pic.

edit:I dont see how to upload the image.

If I include a link then it goes to everything in my skydrive account, which is not what I want.

I hope this works: http://www.flickr.com/photos/75565791@N04/10594115496/lightbox/

The setup in my living room is way better but I dont have a pic of that.

Very nice! When I'm eventually a home owner (renting atm) I'll make an area similar! For the record, whilst you can see everything on your skydrive when clicking the sharing link, I think others will only be able to navigate to your shared content. I always have the same paranoia when sharing from skydrive, so test with another browser which isn't logged in :)
 
Will be nice to use when that eventually comes to the XB1.

Damn well better.

I really hope MS opens up the store on XB1.

At least for apps that have shown their worth on Windows 8 if they're wanting to keep the crappy apps out of peoples living rooms.
 

UNCMark

Banned

I don't know why people listen to Thuway. When MS announced they were using 3 gigs of ram for the OS he was the first in that thread claiming that it definitively meant MS didn't care about games. Multimedia comes first. The proof being the memory. Then a few months later came the thread about Sony using 3.5. Guess who was there first telling everyone complaining to stop and that it was more than enough memory? Yep. I'm not saying his info is wrong. He's just not the guy to be delivering the news. He and Mort are self-professed Sony fans. So am I after all that's happened. But to see them report bad MS rumors with such glee is disgusting.
 
I don't know why people listen to Thuway. When MS announced they were using 3 gigs of ram for the OS he was the first in that thread claiming that it definitively meant MS didn't care about games. Multimedia comes first. The proof being the memory. Then a few months later came the thread about Sony using 3.5. Guess who was there first telling everyone complaining to stop and that it was more than enough memory? Yep. I'm not saying his info is wrong. He's just not the guy to be delivering the news. He and Mort are self-professed Sony fans. So am I after all that's happened. But to see them report bad MS rumors with such glee is disgusting.

Really?

Well...
 

cromulence

Neo Member
I'm utterly baffled as to why anyone would want this. To each their own, but some people act like this is revolutionary, game-changing stuff. I can't ever imagine using this - if I want to go to a website, I'll use the laptop sitting next to me. If I want to watch something, then I don't want to play a game. Maybe some of you can watch sports or a show while being engaged in a video game - I can't.
 
I'm utterly baffled as to why anyone would want this. To each their own, but some people act like this is revolutionary, game-changing stuff. I can't ever imagine using this - if I want to go to a website, I'll use the laptop sitting next to me. If I want to watch something, then I don't want to play a game. Maybe some of you can watch sports or a show while being engaged in a video game - I can't.

So, you've never paused your game to see the end of a sporting event?

Really?
 

Fletcher

Member
I'm sure it's been said a million times, but I have seemed to miss it. Can you snap netflix/hulu/hbo go while playing a game?
 

UNCMark

Banned
Really?

Well...
From the MS memory reserve thread:

Do people finally believe the rumors or do they think we are all just making shit up to make the Xbox look weaker? It is a media machine first and foremost, and games player second.

And in the thread about PS4 memory that got locked, he quoted a bunch of posts from people worried that reserving more memory than MS could be a problem:

Amazing. Absolutely breathtaking. This is some Beyond3D levels of ignorance here. Sony has went out of their way to please developers who were celebrating a faux-Christmas on February 20th. However, it isn't enough. Sony has to now please the armchair programmers on GAF because they know whats better for games than the creators themselves.

Let this list be a reminder.

Again, not saying his sources aren't legit. My problem is how incredibly disingenuous he is. So I personally take the snap rumors with a huge grain of salt. Especially given that even Cboat says it's perfectly possible that any current issues could be worked out by launch. In other words, just like every hardware release...ever.
 
Apologies, I was basing my comments off that tweet.

Can you expand on what you're hearing. Does it crash after prolonged use or are the crashes game specific.



Well I had gotten a PM from cboat which I was cheekily assuming that thuway did also. But i don't report cboat PM's as news because that's cboat's news. I still don't know if that's what thuway was doing or if he had a separate source.


Here is something a dev told me after MS put out that horseshit UI video the other day.

"Kinect's voice array also does not work as efficiently as that. Hell, my X1 doesn't auto-sign me into my profile half the time. The time it takes between taking a command, and executing it has ranged between 3 to 7 seconds, if it registers the voice command. Depending on what other apps you have running, that is. I've done it with just my game running and it can take awhile. I had snapped IE with Studio Upload recording, and it crashed the console."

And another, on a different game said

"Performance in general was awful, snapping was super slow and voice commands recognition was meh. Tools are the worst part though. I mean, installing builds through a command prompt..."



I report what I'm told when I can verify that the people telling me are who they say they are. If it's wrong... it's wrong. Nothing I can do about it. But I'm not on some anti-microsoft crusade.

Snap looks totally cool in this video. I think that's a good thing. I'm not rooting for MS's OS to be a mess. I want to get a xbox one (if/when kinect is dropped). I got the OG xbox and 360 at midnight launches, for fuck's sake. I'm not hating for the sake of hating.



Edit... and about me being wrong about BF4 at 1080p - I was. But I also said "This is just someone who has played it saying it was 1080p. Was it upscaled? I have no idea. I don't think this is any sort of story, yet."
 
From the MS memory reserve thread:



And in the thread about PS4 memory that got locked, he quoted a bunch of posts from people worried that reserving more memory than MS could be a problem:



Again, not saying his sources aren't legit. My problem is how incredibly disingenuous he is. So I personally take the snap rumors with a huge grain of salt. Especially given that even Cboat says it's perfectly possible that any current issues could be worked out by launch. In other words, just like every hardware release...ever.

That's a bit of an eye opener.
 
Just checked my order on Amazon UK but nothing changed, and didn't recieve an update of any kind in the past month. What does the update say? Mine is still scheduled for day one delivery :D

Hello,

We have good news! One of your pre-ordered items is now eligible for release date delivery and has been upgraded at no additional charge. Your new delivery estimate is:

"Xbox One Console - Day One Edition"
Estimated arrival date: November 22, 2013

Please visit Your Account (www.amazon.com/youraccount) for the most up-to-date delivery information about this order. If there are other items in your order, they'll be shipped according to the delivery estimates listed in the order details in Your Account at no additional cost.

Sincerely,

Customer Service Department


Weird since I thought all along I was getting it day one.
 
Well I had gotten a PM from cboat which I was cheekily assuming that thuway did also. But i don't report cboat PM's as news because that's cboat's news. I still don't know if that's what thuway was doing or if he had a separate source.


Here is something a dev told me after MS put out that horseshit UI video the other day.

"Kinect's voice array also does not work as efficiently as that. Hell, my X1 doesn't auto-sign me into my profile half the time. The time it takes between taking a command, and executing it has ranged between 3 to 7 seconds, if it registers the voice command. Depending on what other apps you have running, that is. I've done it with just my game running and it can take awhile. I had snapped IE with Studio Upload recording, and it crashed the console."

And another, on a different game said

"Performance in general was awful, snapping was super slow and voice commands recognition was meh. Tools are the worst part though. I mean, installing builds through a command prompt..."



I report what I'm told when I can verify that the people telling me are who they say they are. If it's wrong... it's wrong. Nothing I can do about it. But I'm not on some anti-microsoft crusade.

Snap looks totally cool in this video. I think that's a good thing. I'm not rooting for MS's OS to be a mess. I want to get a xbox one (if/when kinect is dropped). I got the OG xbox and 360 at midnight launches, for fuck's sake. I'm not hating for the sake of hating.

Hoo boy, that sounds dreadful. I guess they were lucky it demoed well in this video. Will be interesting to see if those issues are addressed at launch or not...
 
Hoo boy, that sounds dreadful. I guess they were lucky it demoed well in this video. Will be interesting to see if those issues are addressed at launch or not...

Im guessing they will be ironed out. I think if Microsoft thought they couldn't get things working in time they would just scratch them for launch (like sony did with suspend/resume) instead of having it be buggy and creating horrible word of mouth.
 

AzBat

Member
Yes, you can snap any app.

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Not every app...

XboxOneDev said:
Snapping can be done in two ways. One is via the controller by selecting the "Snap an app" button on the Home screen. This will show a list of apps that are snap capable. The other is via voice commands. "Xbox, snap X."
The majority of the apps that come at launch can be snapped, though not all. Some apps are by design only to run in snapped mode. As more apps will be developed in the future by third parties, they can choose whether an app can be snapped based on what kind of experience the app will provide. Game titles do not have the option be to snap enabled (shrunken to 1/4 size) even if the developer wants to.
What MajorNelson confirmed is that once you have an app snapped, it will by default have focus. You can then press the center button twice to switch focus back to your original app/game.
E.g You are playing a game. You say "Xbox snap Internet Explorer." Your controller is now controlling the browser and not the game. Tap the center button twice to switch back to the game.

http://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/1or174/questions_about_snap_feature/ccurh6n
 

Enectic

Banned
Looks be working pretty smooth. Don't know exactly how much use it'll be of to me but additional features are always nice.
 

xxracerxx

Don't worry, I'll vouch for them.
Awesome feature! I can play games while my gf can watch her shows. Hopefully there is an option to switch audio...even better if it can output to headphones and main audio separately.

Hahaha, that is so mean. Hey babe, you can watch this small little bit of the TV while I get 2/3rds.
 

Caayn

Member
Just tried to use snap with some metro games on Windows 8.1. Tried it with a couple of different apps. And I'm guessing that it will have a similar result when done on an Xbox One. For folks who are wondering how gaming with snap looks like, here you go:
 

SPDIF

Member

I don't expect that to be too much of an issue though, eventually any app that comes to the XB1 will be designed with snap in mind. Regardless, I stand corrected. I assumed it would be like Windows 8, where even if the app isn't necessarily designed with snap in mind, you can still force it to be snapped. Although I can see why they wouldn't that to be possible on the XB1.
 
Very nice! When I'm eventually a home owner (renting atm) I'll make an area similar! For the record, whilst you can see everything on your skydrive when clicking the sharing link, I think others will only be able to navigate to your shared content. I always have the same paranoia when sharing from skydrive, so test with another browser which isn't logged in :)

Thanks I will try that out.
 

Pbae

Member
I really hope the snap function works well out of the box. I'm optimistic. It takes up screen real estate but for certain games I wouldn't mind.

I do have two questions though.

1. Can you mess around with the size of snap app and choose whether it's on the left or right side?

2. Does the PS4 work like the Vita where I can press the PS button and have the web browser open and toggle between both the game and the browser?
 

dmg04

#DEADWRONG
PS4: I'm stuck at this part of a game, can you do it for me while I watch?
XB1: I'm stuck at this part of a game, I'll use my snap feature to google........ bing tips&tricks so I can do it myself.

That's honestly the only thing I'll do with the snap feature.

Maybe that and Skype.
 

fiyah

Member
I really hope the snap function works well out of the box. I'm optimistic. It takes up screen real estate but for certain games I wouldn't mind.

I do have two questions though.

1. Can you mess around with the size of snap app and choose whether it's on the left or right side?

2. Does the PS4 work like the Vita where I can press the PS button and have the web browser open and toggle between both the game and the browser?



1. No. But you can switch which app gets the smaller pane
2. Yes you can!
 

Caayn

Member
Far, far too many button presses and menus.

There's just too much going on.
I don't like it at all.
Or you just say "Xbox, snap ....". It also didn't exactly help that the person using the controller in this video was mashing buttons all over the place. And it didn't seem like he had used snap before.
 
Im guessing they will be ironed out. I think if Microsoft thought they couldn't get things working in time they would just scratch them for launch (like sony did with suspend/resume) instead of having it be buggy and creating horrible word of mouth.

I'm instantly reminded of the RRoD debacle. Would MS really delay or deactivate features if they weren't working at 100% or take the risk and hope it doesn't impact people too much until it's fully patched?
 
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