I doubt it tbh but we'll see.
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Media Create Sales: Week 45, 2013 (Nov 04 - Nov 10)
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I doubt it tbh but we'll see.
LR would be lucky to break 500k I think. The popularity of the FFXIII series is rapidly collapsing. XIII-2 sold less than half of what XIII did, and I think it's likely LR will sell half of what XIII-2 did, or less.
Seems like a pretty good result. Wonder if Bandai would have been better off releasing this stuff separately on VC?
StreetsAhead
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Now that's where Nintendo has messed up badly...
It'd be better if they had something at December release. Oh well
*Technically* they're publishing Sonic & Mario in Japan, so ... yeah. That's a thing.
It's been a week.
Yeah Nintendos WiiU software output really is a new low for this company.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Bullshit.
It's the second best selling platform YTD, no? That's not 'terrible' when the rest of the market sells low numbers.
spatenfloot
Member
Not sure how it is in Japan, but here in the US I saw more evidence of the WiiU's issues at Best Buy. A couple were looking at the Zelda bundle and a sales associate was trying to explain that it isn't an expansion pack for the Wii.
The guy said "you mean it's like a Wii 2?" They had no idea.
The guy said "you mean it's like a Wii 2?" They had no idea.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Vitä beastmode continues and next week Vita TV?
This isn't even its final form!
This isn't even its final form!
Infernal Monkey
Member
Hey, the Onechanbara port did pretty okay. Now watch D3 put the next game exclusively on Xbox One or something.
Sylverstone14
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And now to wait for Super Mario 3D World to work its magic...
FreedomFighter
Member
I don't know what else Nintendo can do with the Wii U. Slashing prices won't mean anything without the software to back it up. Wii U wasn't ready for a November 2012 launch. They should've delayed it, although I know that would give it other issues, it would've been better overall for the system.
The Hermit
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I called 14k before clicking the thread.
Still disappointed
Still disappointed
LordOcidax
Member
I think the Wii U is going to stabilize between 10K - 15K (excluding Mario launch week and other big games). Is a reasonable number.
Funny that you mention that, because the couple of Japanese people I know with a Wii U don't even use the Wiipad because it's "too heavy". They always talk about using the Pro Controller if at all possible.
shinra-bansho
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Sub-10K next week, then some Mario effect and Holiday period should keep it at reasonable levels.
New year collapse again though I expect.
New year collapse again though I expect.
It really isn't, though. 15k a week is around 780,000 a year. With a given console life of 5 years, that's around 3.9 million sold total in Japan.
That's downright nightmarish for Nintendo, at BEST. Anything under that (and we all know it's going to end up well under 15k a week on average from here until the end of its life without DRASTIC change from Nintendo) is downright scary.
And the Wii U has been out for a year now. If it had any sort of competent leadership, Nintendo would be having blockbuster after blockbuster coming out this holiday season.
Sub 2K is what I'm guessing for next year.
Next week man, next week.
It hasn't even sold a million yet this year. What position it's in is irrelevant consider that the only healthy platform in Japan is the 3DS.
spatenfloot
Member
It sells enough to keep the 3rd party developers interested. That's good enough.
It did:
{2006-01-26} [PS2] Battlefield 2: Modern Combat - 9,838 / 23,747
{2006-04-27} [360] Battlefield 2: Modern Combat - 3,278 / 7,328
{2007-03-15} [360] Battlefield 2: Modern Combat [Xbox 360 Platinum Collection] - 1,724 / 3,755
{2008-06-26} [360] Battlefield: Bad Company - 14,787 / 27,604
{2008-08-28} [PS3] Battlefield: Bad Company - 22,003 / 41,300
{2009-02-26} [360] Battlefield: Bad Company [Xbox 360 Platinum Collection] - ? / 4,092
{2009-06-25} [PS3] Battlefield: Bad Company [EA Best Hits] - 620 / 8,764
{2010-03-11} [PS3] Battlefield: Bad Company 2 - 32,608 / 67,709
{2010-03-11} [360] Battlefield: Bad Company 2 - 16,139 / 24,539
{2010-12-02} [360] Battlefield: Bad Company 2 - Ultimate Edition [Xbox 360 Platinum Collection] - ? / 15,690
{2010-12-02} [PS3] Battlefield: Bad Company 2 - Ultimate Edition [EA Best Hits] - ? / 37,150
{2012-08-09} [PS3] Battlefield: Bad Company 2 - Kanzenban [EA Perfect Best] - ? / 3,506
{2011-11-02} [PS3] Battlefield 3 - 122,937 / 232,978
{2011-11-02} [360] Battlefield 3 - 24,381 / 35,277
{2012-12-13} [PS3] Battlefield 3 - Premium Edition - ? / 8,471
{2013-07-11} [PS3] Battlefield 3 [PlayStation 3 the Best] - 4,170 / 4,170
{2013-11-07} [PS3] Battlefield 4 - 110,458 / NEW
{2013-11-07} [360] Battlefield 4 - 9,880 / NEW
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{2011-05-19} [PSP] Akiba's Trip - 51,465 / 94,426
{2012-06-14} [PSP] Akiba's Trip Plus - 26,902 / 46,529
{2013-11-07} [PS3] Akiba's Trip 2 - 19,483 / NEW
{2013-11-07} [PSV] Akiba's Trip 2 - 34,867 / NEW
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{1995-09-29} [SFC] Metal Max Returns (Data East) - 20,228 / 30,000
{2003-06-20} [GBA] Metal Max 2: Break (Now Production) - 9,524 / 20,000
{2010-07-29} [NDS] Metal Max 3 (Kadokawa Shoten) - 50,838 / 91,722
{2011-12-08} [NDS] Metal Max 2: Reloaded (Kadokawa Games) - 27,115 / 55,858
{2013-11-07} [3DS] Metal Max 4: Gekkou no Diva (Kadokawa Games) - 23,092 / NEW
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{2004-08-26} [PS2] Simple 2000 Series Vol. 61: The Onechanbara - 11,338 / 53,587
{2005-06-23} [PS2] Simple 2000 Series Vol. 80: The Onechanpuruu - 7,707 / 44,635
{2005-12-22} [PS2] Simple 2000 Series Vol. 90: The Onechanbara 2 - 9,192 / 29,458
{2006-06-29} [PS2] Simple 2000 Series Vol. 101: The Onechanbara - The Onechan 2 Special - 4,404 / 18,417
{2006-12-14} [360] Onechanbara: Bikini Samurai Squad - 8,556 / 18,443
{2007-11-01} [360] Onechanbara: Bikini Samurai Squad [Xbox 360 Platinum Collection] - 3,266 / 20,037
{2008-02-07} [WII] Onechanbara: Bikini Zombie Slayers - 2,200 / 2,200
{2011-03-31} [PSP] Onechanbara Special - 6,150 / 16,141
{2012-01-19} [360] Onechanbara Z Kagura - 23,388 / 29,532
{2013-11-07} [PS3] Onechanbara Z: Kagura with NoNoNo! - 14,556 / NEW
3D World will cause a big jump. But the problem is I don't think anymore that it will cause sustained momentum.
What has happened so far is that a big release causes 1 week of relatively high sales and then it just falls back down the next week. Very big problem since big releases are so far in between.
The Hermit
Member
and GTA V
shinra-bansho
Member
On the plus side, at least the bundles gave it some of a buffer from crossing streams with the Dreamcast...
Has the Vita every really had problems with third party support? I see games announced for it all the time. Sure as hell can't say the same thing for the Wii U.
FreedomFighter
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They need to open new studios, acquire new studios, forge more (and TRUE) unprecedented partnerships, and/or do a massive hire, because it's pretty inexcusable how they handled the Wii U launch. Trouble with HD development of not, they dropped the Wii in 2010, they've had plenty of time to work on games. Wii U debacle shows Nintendo's mismanaging things in house. Thought they would learn from the 3DS debacle but guess not.
It's still not a healthy platform, and numbers are still terrible for the Vita unless you live in another universe than me where a company quarter after quarter decrease their forecast, is a good thing.
pieatorium
Member
first year was pretty terrible
And last week in Toronto, I saw a dad letting his kid pick out a new game from the Wii U rack. I think we have enough evidence of the Wii U's problems without going into anecdotes.
I don't believe they can do anything. They didn't have a strong idea of what they were doing at first, they weren't properly prepared at launch, and they haven't been able to ramp up support as they've needed to.
If Nintendo manages to make a whole bunch of improvements, Wii U might be able to serve as a stepping stone for something later. But I can't imagine it going from where it is now to a success.
partywhistle.wav
FreedomFighter
Member
Uhmmm... no. It's a terrible number period. The rest of the numbers show how poorly the Japan market is doing overall. Doesn't change the fact that Vita's numbers are very bad, man.
Bwahahahaha!
LordOcidax
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If Nintendo can manage to sell 5 - 6 Millions in Japan. Actually, i think is going to be a great success from Nintendo. Considering the Wii U position right now. So i think 10 - 15 K a Week. Is a good number, Without big releases, is a reasonable number.
So you're saying the Vita is doing good numbers in Japan? You're saying Sony hasn't decreased Vita/PSP forecast 8 quarterly reports in a row? You live in a delusional world.
Metallix87
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Not that many developers and publishers seem overly enthusiastic about Vita. Heck, Capcom and Square-Enix are pretending it doesn't exist in the hopes that it goes away.
Maybe so, but I doubt it was as bad as the Wii U's first year....
pieatorium
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hes saying how the 3ds has never met a forecast
spatenfloot
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The problem is that I don't think it will even sustain 10-15k after the holidays. Especially once the PS4 hits the market giving it more competition.
Phoenician_Viking
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spatenfloot
Member
I am talking about the smaller companies, like Aksys. Of course the big ones ignore it.
Metallix87
Member
Okay, I get that you love your Vita, and that's fine. I love mine, too. I think it's my favorite Sony system. That said, though, the thing is doing horribly, especially in handheld land, so what, exactly, are you laughing about?
Time to get as many studios as possible, however way you can, NCL. You NEED their help. Then use the WiiU as a stepping stone to something else.
Well, there's that. :lol
Well, there's that. :lol
FreedomFighter
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That's do to Nintendo's incompetence. The same company that expects 9 million Wii U's sold by the end of March 2014 (and won't budge on it!). 3DS is still a healthy and successful platform regardless of not hitting this company's dumb expectations.
The problem with all this is that they should´ve done it years ago. It´s already too late for the WiiU now but if they plan to release another console they Need to drastically increase their development capabilities.
Iwata stated many times 3DS is exceeding Nintendo forecast in Japan.