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Thought it was "Mobiltelefon".
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EA ignores Nintendo consoles and Sony/Nintendo handhelds in recent survey
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Thought it was "Mobiltelefon".
PhoenixDark
Banned
It failed to meet sales projections for Ubisoft, and would have done worse if it had remained an exclusive.
I mean "compete." Take that however you will.
But I won't be lured into another argument about how Nintendo apparently "just can't" do the basic things a company needs to do to be appealing to third parties...so 3rd parties should just support them anyway.
thecouncil
Banned
Ha. That's a very strange thing. Oh well, though.
How does it feel to be 2 hours / 110+ posts late to that joke... in this thread alone?
How does it feel to be 2 hours / 110+ posts late to that joke... in this thread alone?
Metallix87
Member
Is there any proof of that claim? No. Facts are facts, and it performed best on Wii U.
pants
Member
I was laughing with you here, but then I read "COD in space" for "Battlefront" and I immediately started hating you,
action replay:
Would have done worse in total sales you mean? I hope. Because obviously more WiiU copies would have been sold had it not gone multiplat.
...but would probably have done better if it was released on the Wii U as an exclusive when it was supposed to (before they pissed off Nintendo fans and when the game was being well hyped)....and then released 6 months later on the 360/PS3.
It's not even about console wars, posts like this are utter gold to me.
Chû Totoro;90596613 said:
Especially that last post, oh man
The tears of unfathomable sadness are my ambrosia. Thank you, Nintendo, for this feast.
It's funny cause it's true.
Chû Totoro
Member
It's not even about console wars, posts like this are utter gold to me.
Especially that last post, oh man
The tears of unfathomable sadness are my ambrosia. Thank you, Nintendo, for this feast.
Why are you doing this?
true |truː|
adjective ( truer , truest )
1 in accordance with fact or reality : a true story | of course it's true | that is not true of the people I am talking about.
I think you need to reconsider what true means.
spookyfish
Member
Like I said, you definitely have a point when it comes to hardware parity.
But the other things you listed, especially in regards to indies, Nintendo already does for the most part. Fuck, Nintendo was the first to offer free Unity support and other tools to indies.
Like some posters have said, this is a business. EA games simply don't sell on Nintendo platforms. There is no amount of ass kissing or hardware parity that would bring EA back to the table.
Chû Totoro
Member
Then he didn't read all my posts...
megabytecr
Member
I am ignoring EA, my last game will be NFSMWU and because that was Criterion, I don´t need EA. They can fuck off, I actually hope karma comes back at them.
I got Mass Effect 1 and 2 very late and I am having trouble getting into those games, I don´t have time for a lot of MP games, basically I pick 1 MP game that is quick to get into, CoD BOs 2 at this point, and the rest of my time I play single player games, I can very very easily skip EA games.
I will get PS4 or PC soon but I will skip EA games altogether.
I got Mass Effect 1 and 2 very late and I am having trouble getting into those games, I don´t have time for a lot of MP games, basically I pick 1 MP game that is quick to get into, CoD BOs 2 at this point, and the rest of my time I play single player games, I can very very easily skip EA games.
I will get PS4 or PC soon but I will skip EA games altogether.
RPG_Fanatic
Member
As someone who doesn't play shooters, Titanfall, Star Wars Battlefront, and Mass Effect mean nothing to me.
After Dragon Age 2, Bioware lost its free pass from me and actually needs to prove to me their games are worth buying. There are so many great RPGs game sin develpment right now, like Wateland 2, Pillers of Eternity, Divinity" Original Sin, Witcher 3, that I have no problem missing out of the new Dragon Age.
Never got into the first Mirror's Edge, so I personally indifferent to it, though I'm happy that fans of the game are getting a sequel.
It's fine if you are excited for what EA is making, but everyone has their own tastes and might not care for EA games, or EA's management (R.I.P. SimCity).
Last EA game I bought was NFS:MWU. I'm willing to support good games, or good ports (such as Most Wanted U. Good job, Criterion, RIP in peace), but I can't say I'll really miss EA, when all their games seem to aim for the common denominator and end up being as generic as it can be. They even managed to ruin the good franchises they started last gen (Dead Space, I'm looking at you).
And then you think about all the DLC and microtransactions that have been plaguing all their games, and how you pay US$60 expecting to get a full game, but is always prompted to spend more to get the rest of the content and... well... Honestly, I'll probably won't buy their games on Wii U, or on the 3DS or on my PS3 or on my future PS4 or Steambox or Xbone.
I just find it curious that it makes it seem like EA has made their decision and won't support NIntendo platforms, successful or not. Oh well... Good luck for them.
And then you think about all the DLC and microtransactions that have been plaguing all their games, and how you pay US$60 expecting to get a full game, but is always prompted to spend more to get the rest of the content and... well... Honestly, I'll probably won't buy their games on Wii U, or on the 3DS or on my PS3 or on my future PS4 or Steambox or Xbone.
I just find it curious that it makes it seem like EA has made their decision and won't support NIntendo platforms, successful or not. Oh well... Good luck for them.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Can't blame EA, the audience isn't there for the games they make.
Now if they decide to bring Ty The Tasmanian Tiger back, then Wii U would be a good fit.
Now if they decide to bring Ty The Tasmanian Tiger back, then Wii U would be a good fit.
PhoenixDark
Banned
So they should have released the game when the WiiU's install base was even smaller to appease a minority of upset fans? In what world does that make sense.
They waited for more WiiU fans, most of whom weren't even aware of the delay. The game has sold over a million copies due to being multi platform; are you going to claim it would have sold 1mil as a WiiU exclusive lol? They made the right decision.
The system is failing worldwide, why should any third party be beholden to it right now? Again, I don't think people realize this is about recouping, not about loyalty.
Chû Totoro
Member
You're right about some people's behavior being laughable but "The Wii U! Haha" doesn't make you look really smarter in this case. And it's not helping having a constructive discussion.
Chû Totoro;90610925 said:
Nothing in those posts I quoted was in the least bit constructive, least of all yours.
My post was made of humor because there's nothing constructive to even add to this discussion. Anybody who is surprised / upset about EA ignoring the Wii U is severely in denial with regards to the Wii U's impact on the console market. Probably the same people that thought the Wii U's commercial failure was a sign that the games industry as a whole was dead.
Lupin the Third
Member
I'm not going to sit here and say something inane like "Nintendo is better off without EA" or "EA will regret this move." Those dwell too much on fanboyism and discourage discussion.
But I am going to propose that maybe EA is narrowing its focus in a dangerous way. Just because EA did not make money on mature, M-rated titles on Wii U (not that they always went about it in the correct fashion; see Mass Effect 3 launching alongside ME Trilogy on other platforms) does not mean that was they only way they could capitalize on Wii U's market. Could EA not have sold their titles on the Virtual Console catalog? What about mid-range family-friendly titles like EA Sports Playground and Facebreaker KO that were, I imagine, at worst modest successes on Wii? Medal of Honor Heroes 2 also must have done reasonably well on Wii and that was not their AAA product, either.
EA couldn't make big bucks on simply porting their AAA titles near launch, so they abandoned the ship altogether. Doesn't this seem like throwing the baby out with the bathwater? Although EA's mobile business is succssful, why does that mean they have to ignore the 3DS? Again, even if they don't have much luck with packaged goods, they could still release eShop content like Virtual Console, or even porting their mobile titles with lots of DLC options.
They have all sorts of revenue options available that could supplement their risky AAA sales and they ignore nearly all of them. Diversity is a healthy business approach as long as you can afford it. Why ignore Wii U, 3DS, and even Vita just because you can't toss out the easiest solution and make a profit? Just like in life, you can't always take the easy route and walk away a winner. This sort of narrowed focus on iOS/Android and AAA(A?) budget titles is a dangerous and precarious path IMHO, and I wonder how well it will suit them in the long run.
But I am going to propose that maybe EA is narrowing its focus in a dangerous way. Just because EA did not make money on mature, M-rated titles on Wii U (not that they always went about it in the correct fashion; see Mass Effect 3 launching alongside ME Trilogy on other platforms) does not mean that was they only way they could capitalize on Wii U's market. Could EA not have sold their titles on the Virtual Console catalog? What about mid-range family-friendly titles like EA Sports Playground and Facebreaker KO that were, I imagine, at worst modest successes on Wii? Medal of Honor Heroes 2 also must have done reasonably well on Wii and that was not their AAA product, either.
EA couldn't make big bucks on simply porting their AAA titles near launch, so they abandoned the ship altogether. Doesn't this seem like throwing the baby out with the bathwater? Although EA's mobile business is succssful, why does that mean they have to ignore the 3DS? Again, even if they don't have much luck with packaged goods, they could still release eShop content like Virtual Console, or even porting their mobile titles with lots of DLC options.
They have all sorts of revenue options available that could supplement their risky AAA sales and they ignore nearly all of them. Diversity is a healthy business approach as long as you can afford it. Why ignore Wii U, 3DS, and even Vita just because you can't toss out the easiest solution and make a profit? Just like in life, you can't always take the easy route and walk away a winner. This sort of narrowed focus on iOS/Android and AAA(A?) budget titles is a dangerous and precarious path IMHO, and I wonder how well it will suit them in the long run.
Chû Totoro
Member
You're the one who is obsessed by Wii U. My point was really not focused on the EA / Wii U subject.
If you ignored half of the posts so you can make your funny post then you are worst than the ones you're trying to laugh at.
I must admit you can make a great selection of the posts that will make your point a little more valid. Maybe try to make a selection of the posts worth reading (you can ignore mine of course I won't be upset).
Sure, it would do better on a console with its install base of not even 4 000 000 than on the consoles that have the install base of 160 000 000 consoles combined.
O.O
Agreed. Lessons from the last generation were not learned, apparently.
Chû Totoro
Member
So the last posts you made are the best constructive answers you can make? If your posts are just about humor and laugh I'm going to pass sorry.
Because EA is flat out run terribly as a business, you would think a huge AAA company wouldnt be struggling, look at Ubisoft they support every platform and are doing fine, Activision is doing fine.
EA left WiiU long before launch, they canceled Battlefield 3 and Crysis 3 before the WiiU even came out, so WiiU sales had nothing to do with lack of EA support.
Oh damn
I could understand if thery're ignoring just Wii U. But they ignoring Wii U, 3DS and Vita, so called "kiddie and japanese" systems. Sounds much like a bro gamer. I mean, what's wrong with 3DS? Selling great, full of quality titles, both mature, everyone and casual titles. And Vita, such a perfect piece of machine. So much potential this thing has.
But it's just like everyone else says: Your loss, EA.
But it's just like everyone else says: Your loss, EA.
If you think there is nothing to add to the discussion, then why are you even posting in this thread. Simply to hurl insults? Yes, you quoted some laughable salty posts, but you are not coming off any better here.
That's not what I said. I said they should have released it on the Wii U as an "exclusive" when planned ..when the hype was in full flow..
...and then release it on the PS3/360 6 months down the road when those versions were finished...rather than delaying the already completed Wii U version 6 months.
That way they would have gotten the best of both worlds.
Dead Space, Mass Effect, Battlefield, Mirror's Edge beg to differ..
Well he's right. Real gamers buy every system out there and have a competent gaming PC so that they can play every game available.
Lupin the Third
Member
Is a "loyalist" gamer not a "real gamer"? Or maybe the name "gamer" implies that your active pursuit is "games and games alone"? I can see arguments in multiple directions on this one.
Demon Ice indeed has reason to be amused by thread behavior, but he's certainly being condescending about what amuses him. Sales and popularity aside, the Wii U is a perfectly enjoyable games console.
Hmmm I imagine something more like this...
Pinstripesandgoldtie: "ms and sony ave agreed that used game sales will be drm controlled on next gen consoles."
Redbracesandnotie: "Good news, wotabaat Nintendo?"
"They say no"
"You wot?"
"They say they don't mind used game sales, they say their games keep selling at full price years after launch"
"Those faaking Jeremy Hunts can get fucked, pull everything that's not gone gold yet and tell 'em they can 'ave a taste of wot Sega got back in the day"
I'll get me tin hat
Real gamers don't play games, they just moan about them on the internet.