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[Horseress]

itazan commenting on gief can anyone translate ?
https://twitter.com/Itazan_Kuma

dat avatar

 

[Hitokage]

I too wonder how timed-ultras will work in W mode. Especially Rose's U2. They could reduce the damage on the orbs, but damage really isn't their point so you'd think W mode would be good for her. But if they cut down the time orbs stay out there, that'll actually give player a reason to pick U2 exclusively.

With Juri the less ultra meter you start with then the less time you get. W mode would presumably restrict this.

 

[UltraDavid]

lol hugo's u1 is 720 and u2 is antiair grab!! whooooooooo would have thoughtttttt

seriously that's so lazy

literally there was one thing i was looking forward to for hugo, and that was hammer frenzy as an ultra. maybe you get clap or lariat fadc ultra, maybe you don't, but certainly you at least get some differentiation between hugo and the other characters

can u2 at least be comboable so hugo can do wall throw to u2 or somethno i don't even know why i asked that is certainly not happening

i have no idea what role he plays in this game

 

[TheRook]

Just re-watched the Hugo vs. Poison vid and I think its ultra 1 and the dude is using double ultra combo.

It turns out that it was a command grab all along. Still pretty rad though.

Supers and Ultras of the 4 new characters

Hugo's Ultra 2....the first thing that comes to mind is......dat hang time. On another note I hope your still able to combo into it from his wallbounce throw like in 3S.

 

[sixteen-bit]

i have no idea what role he plays in this game

added value / +1 to the roster for the box art copy on the back, lol

 

[Hitokage]

What's even lazier is that Hugo's U1 and U2 are just different takes on the same damn move.

 

[Shito]

i have no idea what role he plays in this game

Allowing us to discover hidden easter eggs in the stages?

 

[casperOne]

I'm so worried about timer scam with Elena. Just imagine being up in life, but losing cause she got that ultra off at the last second a half-screen away.

I'm not so concerned; there's a timer scam now with the ultra animation (always was there) if you have a life lead. If you are behind on life, it's not really a timer scam; Elena is still exposed while the timer runs down if the healing is to have an effect.

 

[LakeEarth]

I wonder how Rolento's U2 will work in outdoor stages.

I'm not so concerned; there's a timer scam now with the ultra animation (always was there) if you have a life lead. If you are behind on life, it's not really a timer scam; Elena is still exposed while the timer runs down if the healing is to have an effect.

Key word, "half-screen away". If you time it right, you could get some healing in before the time over, and do it at a distance that most characters need a second to dash up. It wouldn't work on Dhalsim, Seth or Makoto, but that the fuck is T. Hawk gonna do about it?

 

[UltraDavid]

added value / +1 to the roster for the box art copy on the back, lol

you're totally right, and i get that they can cheaply import a character from sfxt so they might as well do it, but why spend that effort only to make him a sucky copy of existing characters?

 

[Horseress]

you're totally right, and i get that they can cheaply import a character from sfxt so they might as well do it, but why spend that effort only to make him a sucky copy of existing characters?

David....calm down :lol
There's people saying he's not bad, that he has some good poking tools, there's still hope!

 

[FSLink]

you're totally right, and i get that they can cheaply import a character from sfxt so they might as well do it, but why spend that effort only to make him a sucky copy of existing characters?

Because Capcom. I hope Combofiend and the rest of Capcom is taking some notes, I want Hugo to be good.

 

[Parallax Scroll]

if they're gonna copy-paste sfxt characters they should have put someone cool like jin or kazuya

 

[Shito]

Key word, "half-screen away". If you time it right, you could get some healing in before the time over, and do it at a distance that most characters need a second to dash up. It wouldn't work on Dhalsim, Seth or Makoto, but that the fuck is T. Hawk gonna do about it?

Try and win for the 98 seconds that precede?
I mean, it's just a new parameter to take into account when playing against her, I really don't see the big deal there.
It's not like she's going to try and win every round this way. And it's not like you can't do something about it for 99% of said round.

 

[UltraDavid]

David....calm down :lol
There's people saying he's not bad, that he has some good poking tools, there's still hope!

well i said i wouldn't even bother testing him if i get to play a location test cause i was so sure he'd suck. i should probably just stick with that and not worry myself over him. but it is disappointing so far

edit: just read up and saw poison's u2 is a grab ultra? that's cool! hope it's instant heh

 

[sixteen-bit]

if they're gonna copy-paste sfxt characters they should have put someone cool like jin or kazuya

5th character is R.Mika Kuma

 

[Beckx]

Watching those videos dimmed my enthusiasm for Ultra again.

Still hate the direction that the SFxTK characters take the art, and the S&M stuff with Poison is offputting.

 

[Pompadour]

What's even lazier is that Hugo's U1 and U2 are just different takes on the same damn move.

Isn't that how it is in 3S? Hugo turned out exactly how I expected him to in 4.

 

[poopninjamvc3mk]

Supers and Ultras of the 4 new characters

Yo they bought the Rolento Hanging super(now ultra) back Kreygasm.

 

[Ginger Whale]

Supers and Ultras of the 4 new characters

Hugo's Ultra 2 (anti-air one) looks like its got some pretty nice range, I hope the hitbox is better than T. Hawk's ultra 2 is at the moment though.

 

[commanderpepper]

if they're gonna copy-paste sfxt characters they should have put someone cool like jin or kazuya

SFxT Bob is just an alternate costume Rufus.

 

[Passive Assassin]

USFIV's release date may be on July 11th for NA

Which is weird, since Combofiend said it would be before EVO, not AT EVO

... oh come on.gif

 

[CurlyW]

... oh come on.gif

A few comments down:

Sounds like they got the news of USFIV appearing "before Evo 2014" mixed up as "during Evo 2014" or something. The "release window" they mention falls on the exact dates.

Eventhubs gonna eventhubs

 

[casperOne]

well i said i wouldn't even bother testing him if i get to play a location test cause i was so sure he'd suck. i should probably just stick with that and not worry myself over him. but it is disappointing so far

I see you're employing your Bane experiment again in Ultra.

Spoiler

kappa

edit: just read up and saw poison's u2 is a grab ultra? that's cool! hope it's instant heh

Probably not, only supers have 0f properties (Gief, Akuma), but of course that's not a hard and fast rule.

Spoiler

I assume you knew this of course from the "heh"

 

[UltraDavid]

I see you're employing your Bane experiment again in Ultra.

Spoiler

kappa

Probably not, only supers have 0f properties (Gief, Akuma), but of course that's not a hard and fast rule.

Spoiler

I assume you knew this of course from the "heh"

lol definitely kappa

but no, i hope poison u2 is instant! and that's def possible. gief, hakan, hawk, and now usf4 honda all have instant grab ultras. hugo's could be too, and i haven't heard confirmation yet but i heard boxer's grab ultra may be instant in usf4 as well. so it's possible!

 

[Lost Fragment]

lol hugo's u1 is 720 and u2 is antiair grab!! whooooooooo would have thoughtttttt

seriously that's so lazy

Real talk. I don't know why they feel like they have to do that with every fucking pure grappler.

 

[MiniBossBattle]

I wonder what is going to happen to Hugo as time passes. I thought Hawk was so slow and easy when playing Bison or Sim. Now he is a gigantic jumping mixup jerk that I am legitimately scared of. Same goes with Hakan.

 

[Passive Assassin]

A few comments down:



Eventhubs gonna eventhubs

... Eh.

 

[Shouta]

itazan commenting on gief can anyone translate ?
https://twitter.com/Itazan_Kuma

Gimme a few and I can translate them.

 

[enzo_gt]

Sounds like they got the news of USFIV appearing "before Evo 2014" mixed up as "during Evo 2014" or something. The "release window" they mention falls on the exact dates.

Eventhubs will post ANYTHING.

 

[CountBlack]

Juri Yang Vega (Claw) are the MVP's in tokyo for today.

By Kim1234.

Where's that Deckard cain guy that was complaining that Vega was the worst character in the game bar none?

 

[sixteen-bit]

Eventhubs will post ANYTHING.

Have they ever posted GAF-sourced fake data?

 

[Horseress]

Eventhubs will post ANYTHING.

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/nov/22/neo-gaf-thinks-event-hubs-posts-anything/

 

[Face it Tiger..]

Praying to the heavens that R. Mika is the 5th character, despite all the facts.

 

[Marvelous]

Will Vega ever become ST-fabulous again? Let his normal wall dive attack be faster, two hits (lol focus attacks), and give him much better recovery at the end. :3

 

[Beckx]

By Kim1234.

Where's that Deckard cain guy that was complaining that Vega was the worst character in the game bar none?

I guess Kim1234 didn't PM him, either.

 

[Dahbomb]

By Kim1234.

Where's that Deckard cain guy that was complaining that Vega was the worst character in the game bar none?

The guy is a legitimate troll and he only posts extremely negatively just to start up some shit. Best to ignore him until he cleans up his act.

Also some Blanka changes:

Blanka

Close standing MK from start-up to 4F is airborne (via _BNBBN_)

(via akazukin01)

Crouching MK is +5 on hit
Vertical Roll is now Focus cancellable
HP Rolling Attack knocks down at all distances
UC2 (Shout of Earth) anti-air start-up increased from 7F to 9F
Backstep Roll causes 2 more frames of block stun



Gen

(via Zhi)

Less pushback and recovery on Hyakurenko (hands)
Opponent can quick rise after HK Gekiro (623+K)
EX Gekiro causes hard knockdown
Jyasen ([4]6+P) better on block

(via EB_P0PE)

LP Jyasen is now ±0 on block (changed from -3)
Stun on Mantis Ultra 2 is now 600
Crane standing HP damage changed from 100*100 to 150*50
Teiga (Crane U2) start up now 9 frames
EX Gekiro on block now has very quick recovery
Crane cr.LP now +5 on hit
cr.HK recovery changed from 29F to 24F.
All Jyasen damage increased by 10.

 

[TheRook]

but no, i hope poison u2 is instant! and that's def possible. gief, hakan, hawk, and now usf4 honda all have instant grab ultras. hugo's could be too, and i haven't heard confirmation yet but i heard boxer's grab ultra may be instant in usf4 as well. so it's possible!

Would it make sense to make Guy's U2 instant as well?

 

[Dahbomb]

Oni

- Can now FADC his DP, but only on the first hit, whether it connects or is blocked.

- Ultra 2 is now a double half-circle back motion.

- His Forward Medium Kick now has 11f startup, instead of 13f.

- His Crouching Heavy Kick is now 8f startup instead of 9f, and has 20f recovery instead of 24f.

- His Focus Attack has longer range.

- Heavy Shoryuken now has different/more(?) invincibility frames, apparently changed from being 9~10f to 6~7f.

- Light Demon Slash now does 110 damage (down from 120), and 130 stun (down from 150).

- Heavy Demon Slash is now -6f on block, instead of -8f.

- EX Demon Slash is now -8f on block, instead of -10f.

- Medium Demon Palm is now -4f on block, instead of -6f, but its first invincibility frame has been removed.

- Electric Fireball (all versions) now have 2 frames less recovery.

- Ultra 1 now does 375 damage when not cinematic (up from 350), and now has 9f startup instead of 11f.

 

[K.Sabot]

Quoting VRyu here.

Makoto
"Changes so far:

- Better jump MK crossup
- crHK 200 stun
- EX fukiage hits grounded opponent
- EX fukiage has same speed. So combo from crLK is 2 hits
- Only EX fukiage is jump cancelable
- EX fukiage is jump cancelable on block too
- (not 100% sure on translation) +4 recovery frame on every whiffed karakusa
- backthrow range: 0.90 => 0.85
- forward throw range: 0.90 => 0.95
- ultra1 damage 480 => 440
- ultra2 goes through fireball (gouken)
- stHP hayate cancel is +5 against crouching opponent (was nerfed to +4 in AE2012) "

I need to know what the bolded means. No more corner combo?

 

[enzo_gt]

Have they ever posted GAF-sourced fake data?

I think they actually may have.

Frequently, when some sort of news breaks or leaks via GAF or a GAF insider and Eventhubs posts it as coming from an "anonymous source." So either they literally believe and post anything that comes across their mailbox, or they have a thing where they don't like sourcing GAF.

Whatever, fuck Eventhubs anyways. I used to champion the site and now they've gone and made their site as user-unfriendly as could possibly be.

 

[Hitokage]

Gen

(via Zhi)

Less pushback and recovery on Hyakurenko (hands)

Enough to revive the slap chop?

 

[Karsticles]

Have we gotten Guile info yet?

 

[Dahbomb]

Have we gotten Guile info yet?

Guile

- Ultra 1 is 5f start up now, and can be used as an autocorrect. It also does 450 damage and has 15 frames of invincibility.

- His hurtbox on wakeup has been reduced.

- Crouching LP is now +5 on hit.

- Crouching MK has had both its hitbox and hurtbox increased.

- His Super seems to have a larger hitbox downward, so as to not whiff on crouching opponents.

- His air grab reaches farther than before.

- Flash Kicks have received one additional invincible frame.

- Ultra 2 does 350 damage.

- Reverse Spin Kick now has a larger downward hitbox, making it likely that it'll hit crouching opponents.


All buffs. I am pretty happy.

 

[Lost Fragment]

Quoting VRyu here.

Makoto
"Changes so far:

- Better jump MK crossup
- crHK 200 stun
- EX fukiage hits grounded opponent
- EX fukiage has same speed. So combo from crLK is 2 hits
- Only EX fukiage is jump cancelable
- EX fukiage is jump cancelable on block too
- (not 100% sure on translation) +4 recovery frame on every whiffed karakusa
- backthrow range: 0.90 => 0.85
- forward throw range: 0.90 => 0.95
- ultra1 damage 480 => 440
- ultra2 goes through fireball (gouken)
- stHP hayate cancel is +5 against crouching opponent (was nerfed to +4 in AE2012) "

I need to know what the bolded means. No more corner combo?

Means do ex hayate instead.

IIRC IA ex axe kick works without having to jump cancel but it's really hard.

 

[Shouta]

Itazan on Gief

https://twitter.com/Itazan_Kuma/status/403920359331602432

Thoughts on Zangief from the USF4 Loke Test. st.mp was nerfed. SPD range nerfed. EX Banishing start-up from 13f to 16f making it not connect from normals. That's pretty rough. How shall I make use of LP Banishing being -2 and EX banishing knocking down (attacking from above will be difficult).

He mentions another property of LP Banishing Flat changing but I don't know what this is referring to. I'll look it up and update after.

https://twitter.com/Itazan_Kuma/status/403921930748571648

Most characters didn't seem to have their basic play style changed on first impression but it feels like Gief was changed under the radar. With LP Banishing being -2, if the opponent mashes out a fast throw, only Ultra 1 will beat it.. This probably only really create a negative situation for him. -1F probably would've been better.

I think this should be right. I also have a little trouble with しか in sentences, lol.

https://twitter.com/Itazan_Kuma/status/403925262045155328

With the addition of delayed wake-up, defensive options have really gone up on all fronts. I think the defensive characters might take center stage this time. Because attacking from the air can be dealt with using delayed wake up, attacking from the side (ground) might be a better candidate this time around. Thinking about it like that, grapplers might be quite handy

https://twitter.com/Itazan_Kuma/status/403926098678784000

With that all in mind, I'm interested in T.hawk, who's getting some interesting adjustments. I may have to practice him in the current version.

https://twitter.com/Itazan_Kuma/status/403926663316000768

Getting a chance to play Hugo today, I'm feeling quite fond of him and pretty satisfied. I'm looking forward to the release and my motivation is pretty high

 

[Ginger Whale]

I need to know what the bolded means. No more corner combo?

Surely not! Maybe he was referring to grounded EX Fukiage?

 

[DryEyeRelief]

Shouta, could you translate Uryo's impressions as well?
https://twitter.com/uryoryon

 

[Beckx]

General changes to slash for Oni are appreciated. Nothing huge but nice.

Surprised they didn't lower damage/chip on his DP.

 

[Hitokage]

Shouta, could you translate Uryo's impressions as well?
https://twitter.com/uryoryon

Haha, I like how his impression for Sagat is just "He's strong".