Normally we just ignore the Sony Too!™ posts that have been failing regularly to catch on since E3, but Gran Turismo is a grind-happy title. If they go down a similar to road to what we're seeing here?...
Alright. Fuck turn ten. I'm done.
I love the physics model and realistic driving of forza.. It's a joy to play.. But Fuck every decision outside of that. I want to drive an indy car in this game.. And I can't go that. I paid for a game that included this fucking car.. But if I don't spend the next 100 hours grinding races on the same boring ass tracks over and over I can't fucking experience it. This sale is so insulting. It's a marketing experiment plain and simple. If they see a huge influx in sales this weekend they will lower everything to this price point permanently. Ontop of all this bullshit you stripped the game of many features in previous forza... Including my beloved drag racing mode.
Out of spite... My copy is going on eBay.
Fuck Dan and everyone at turn ten for selling us an unfinished product at full retail price and then expecting up to pay excessive amount of money just to bring it on par with previous titles in the same series of games.
Did you read the part where they have a economy fix coming? Or did u just grab a torch and pitchfork with the rest of the mob?
Which is essentially what they've said they're doing. Let's give them a chance to fix it before we burn the building down.
Normally we just ignore the Sony Too! posts that have been failing regularly to catch on since E3, but Gran Turismo is a grind-happy title. If they go down a similar to road to what we're seeing here?...
all they have done is offered a black friday sale of their microtransactions.
The rest is just lip service that could mean a million different things.
Normally we just ignore the Sony Too! posts that have been failing regularly to catch on since E3, but Gran Turismo is a grind-happy title. If they go down a similar to road to what we're seeing here?...
Im curious how things will be in GT6.
Strong hopes that nothing like this though.
Wow they just do not get it at all. Despicable
And before you even think this is some form of attack on MS, i own every GT game in the series since the first one. And i am not fucking buy GT6 unless they remove that shit, there is no compromise to make, i dont care if Polyphony Digital offers them for a 90% discount. So this is not some sort of attack on Microsoft or another skirmish in the illustrious and grand "Console Warz".
No matter who does it, its shit. This is a 60 dollar game for the love of god, they fucked with the way you gain currency in this game, because the want you to spend real money. Which is why the typical apologist comment like this:
"If you dont like it, dont buy it, simple as that!"
Does not work, the game has been tuned differently to push they money making scheme. The entire experience has been altered because of greed.
What a shame because 3 and 4 really put Forza on the map. Its the one exclusive i really like on the Xbox brand and its mutilated now.
PlayStation: #4thePlayers
Xbox: #4theFleecers
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PlayStation: #4thePlayers
Xbox: #4theShareholders
Think it'll be pretty much the same really. Let us not forget that these guys sold us GT Prologue for almost full price and it was a shell of a game next to the final release. They have their own ways of subtlely slipping in micro like transactions.
That being said? Who cares. I just grind it out and earn the cash to buy the cars i like. Some people are pressed for time with jobs and families,and if they want to buy their way into enjoying the game? More power to them. I'm not gonna judge anyone or these companies here. Theyre all out to make a buck,not shake our hands and wish us great fortunes if we ever stopped supported them. Look at the Vita memory card pricing,look at Apple and the over gauging they do on the products,look at Microsoft with locking out all other hard drives for use on the 360,its a business. I guess for some its only tolerable if you enjoy the game or product so much I guess. DLC and micro tranactions are here to stay. Cool on Turn 10 to do this for people though. It shouldnt stop anyone from enjoying the game,its quite good. I've been playing non stop.
GT5 Prologue was such a scam.Think it'll be pretty much the same really. Let us not forget that these guys sold us GT Prologue for almost full price and it was a shell of a game next to the final release. They have their own ways of subtlely slipping in micro like transactions.
Normally we just ignore the Sony Too! posts that have been failing regularly to catch on since E3, but Gran Turismo is a grind-happy title. If they go down a similar to road to what we're seeing here?...
I'm more concerned about Driveclub since it has a F2P version. I have the full version pre-ordered and hopefully it's not the same F2P game only with a bunch of stuff unlocked already (but not nearly all of it).Im curious how things will be in GT6.
Strong hopes that nothing like this though.
Not that this should influence your decision, but the grinding for the single seater top end cars isn't unqiue to Forza..
If anything, they seem to have looked at the competition and followed their model.. limited garage choices when in freeplay, and grind massively to get the best cars..
At the moment, there is the simplest of glitches that allows you to drive any car you want in freeplay,which is the one thing they should make permanent, I really enjoyed using freeplay to test cars out, and it made more sense of DLC packs where you could at least just pop in a few laps in each car on any track to get a feel for them, so you could make an informed decision when buying them with your credits for career.
I do think MS/T10 need to wake up very quickly and realise that whilst some heartless accountant may have figured out the statistically optimal method of milking consumers, they overlooked the obvious aspect that a bad reception of the methods will negate it all in one fell swoop..
Still, the rest of the game is top notch, and I'm not finding myself having to grind too much at all, but I really do miss the freeplay choice of any car..
Also. The scary thing is I almost feel as if it was planned all along with Forza 3 - 4 moving towards the hard to aquire car model they had in the game. It's almost as if Microsoft was waiting for the new consoles to start pushing this, but the design decisions and influence in their games (first party) were moving this direction.
I didn't play Halo 4, but I'm wondering for anyone that did if you can't see any possible was they could try this same BS when it launches next year?
hows about, getting rid of them and patching your game to adjust to it.
First they came for the racing games,
and I didn't speak out because I didn't play racing games.
Then they came for the shooters,
and I didn't speak out because I didn't play shooters.
Then they came for the fighters,
and I didn't speak out because I didn't play fighters.
Then they came for my single-player open-world action-adventure RPG,
and there was no one left to speak for me.
i'm glad that the reaction made them change their way of thinking , if only a little , this is a nice first step .. but as of now more is needed. The real thing we should wait for is the economy balance updates ..players are easily bored so they should make them ASAP.
You're right. Sony isn't interested at all in making money.
They only care about the reaction in the sales. They probably realised that their $50 cars and expensive tokens didn't sell as well as predicted, hence the changes to the economy. They won't give up microtransactions, it's their business model. All they do now is tweak the system to gain max value.
Same with the weekend discount: A large percentage of those who would not have bought the DLC/Tokens will now give in, especially those who were on the fence about buying.
After this one weekend stunt they will have earned more money this way than they would have otherwise.
That's the cynical truth.
I Love how the 2 people that answered my comment are forgetting bits and parts of the whole sentence.
I'm not happy with this state of affairs , but my first sentence is me happy that the noise we made is making them react ( if only a little = it's not enough ).
Then i say that the real thing needed is the economy balance update.
There is no need to go that far answering my comment , if you're only taking a part of it and ignoring the rest guys.
what your saying is, there not a switch you can just turn off? k.If the game was developed around DLC its not that easy.
Game development isnt as simple as taking an item out of a box and replacing it with another if you dont like it.
Go check the OT. There are a ton of people in there who spent $60 and are getting plenty of enjoyment for their money.
If everyone ignores the IAP buttons, they'll go away. Unfortunately, the iTunes top grossing list proves that people won't ignore them anytime soon so publishers will keep chasing that money until it no longer exists.
I blame Candy Crush.
The way I see it, people who currently own the title will get some small perk but future buyers will be subject to the same problem in perhaps slightly a less noticeable manner.
May I interest you in some classy steampunk weapon skins for a refined neovictorian gentleman/lady such as yourself?Also. The scary thing is I almost feel as if it was planned all along with Forza 3 - 4 moving towards the hard to aquire car model they had in the game. It's almost as if Microsoft was waiting for the new consoles to start pushing this, but the design decisions and influence in their games (first party) were moving this direction.
I didn't play Halo 4, but I'm wondering for anyone that did if you can't see any possible was they could try this same BS when it launches next year?
Normally we just ignore the Sony Too! posts that have been failing regularly to catch on since E3, but Gran Turismo is a grind-happy title. If they go down a similar to road to what we're seeing here?...
Which is essentially what they've said they're doing. Let's give them a chance to fix it before we burn the building down.
they've said from the start that DriveClub will have extensive car DLC.
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goddamit!
source?
goddamit!
source?
- More cars will be added through DLC; will be one of the biggest titles for Sony from a DLC perspective