SlasherJPC
Banned
So basically I'll still be able to upload my videos like I do now.This won't affect people doing it for fun right?
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Rumor: Youtube Getting tough on video game monetization in 2014
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Zoom in. I could have cut this in multiple chunks for clarity, but meh too much work.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
All seems fair to me. I see no problem at all with companies taking issue with Youtube guys monetizing their intellectual properties.
Christopher
Member
How will it backfire if the publishers dont want them using their content to make money however are free to upload to entertain their fans...
GrizzleBoy
Banned
And the PERSONALITIES that have managed to garner the hundreds, thousands, millions of viewers to advertise said game should just put all that work in to provide free advertising to huge audiences for fun should they?
I am fine with this as long as the developers don't monetize my video's. Let's make it a two way street and we're good.
Developers shouldn't get a cut. They made the product, the person is giving a performance. However if the developer doesn't want their game used then that's fine by me imo, they should not expect to be able to monetize peoples videos though.
Developers shouldn't get a cut. They made the product, the person is giving a performance. However if the developer doesn't want their game used then that's fine by me imo, they should not expect to be able to monetize peoples videos though.
simplythebest
Banned
Then maybe this is for the best. :\
If their personalities are marketable they won't have trouble finding work.
I can't read anything from that. Repost?
and how the HELL did you read that
Yes this is true
You could give me a free car, but if its a crappy car and I don't want it its not worth anything to me.
I'm sure there are plenty of "personalities" that these publishers don't want to be associated with. There are also plenty of indie games that aren't going to bother going after these people.
Thus the match was made - exposure for the people who need it. Heaven knows the vast majority of AAA games don't need any more "free advertising" - they need less exposure to be honest.
Envy
jacksepticeye
Member
I would say Jealousy but GAF would clamp down on me fast telling me how wrong I am
looks like I said it anyway 
I'll say it for you.
Everyone here who hates 'Let's Players' are jealous, depressed and envious people who want to spread their negativity and cynicism to the world because they've given up on everything they once loved.
The people who put the work in get the views.
I hear you. I'm not completely unreasonable here. I can understand that these games take tons of money, time and staff to create. I can also see them not wanting people to take their work and profit off of it without their expressed permission since this involves showing significant amount of the games content to people that could possibly dull the idea of buying it. Games aren't movies, but there is some definite overlap there.
On the other hand. I fucking love game streaming (TwitchTV). And if something like this is going to kill streamers eventually, I'm likely to throw a bit of a hissy fit assuming they all can't find a way to work this shit out.
Muppet of a Man
Member
This is what Sessler was freaking out about, I assume?
The system is a complete mess right now. I have seen videos flagged for infringement that don't even have gameplay, it's a person to person interview.
Something needs to be done and the fair use clause needs to be taken into account as some videos may use a couple of seconds of footage and the rest is original content.
Something needs to be done and the fair use clause needs to be taken into account as some videos may use a couple of seconds of footage and the rest is original content.
jacksepticeye
Member
Adding a touch of drama.... yes,very nice
Ragingnight
Member
why the fuck do people care about somebody else "getting a real job" or some shit. Life has always been about the hustle and thinking outside the box to get money.
so what about people who monetize fighting game tournament stream/archives? o they don't help produce anything all of a sudden?
Or what about game reviews? I don't want to spend 60 dollars on a mediocre game. Hell I don't even spend 60 dollars on a good game most of the time.
People are just being salty dumb fucks over people hustling. Those twitch streamers that get donations for hundreds of dollars a day? They get respect for being able to convince random people to pay.
so what about people who monetize fighting game tournament stream/archives? o they don't help produce anything all of a sudden?
Or what about game reviews? I don't want to spend 60 dollars on a mediocre game. Hell I don't even spend 60 dollars on a good game most of the time.
People are just being salty dumb fucks over people hustling. Those twitch streamers that get donations for hundreds of dollars a day? They get respect for being able to convince random people to pay.
Exactly. If the company who makes the game doesn't like it then the person streaming will just cover other games. Screw publishers who actually want to cut people out of this and take the money for themselves like Nintendo. There are a lot of good publishers out there though.
I think Let's Plays defeat the purpose of video games and are simply boring as fuck. That said, this is bullshit. Fuck any company who restricts people from uploading footage of games they paid for. If they don't want people making money off their videos, fine. Completely restricting any footage of gameplay? Fuck off.
Sega is a shit company and I hope they go under.
Sega is a shit company and I hope they go under.
I love that companies now think they own every single thing that somebody may do with their product, and they deserve to be paid every time somebody shows any aspect of it. Good work US IP laws.
Better stop the monetisation of any YT videos that contain unauthorised brand name exposure as well. Mentos plus diet soft drink video? Better pay Mentos.
Better stop the monetisation of any YT videos that contain unauthorised brand name exposure as well. Mentos plus diet soft drink video? Better pay Mentos.
toddhunter
Member
It won't stop at Youtube.
As soon as Youtube goes legit and starts making deals with companies like Activision and EA to allow the sharing of revenue, twitch will need to fall into line or the hammer will come down hard.
The bottom line is people are making good money and you can't expect the companies that made Origin and Uplay a thing to sit on the sidelines and just let it happen.
Even if this isn't the full story, change is coming.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
People work on the content that they produce, they gain viewerships by appealing to the larger demographics, and they don't cost publishers/developers a cent. In fact I'd imagine they increase sales of certain games. I don't think anybody should support this and can't comprehend the people supporting it for reasons beyond the fact that they're jealous or they simply don't want people producing content they don't like to make money. It's a shitty move.
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
Ubisoft actually supports monetization, funnily enough.
Nothing legit about this. Fair use is legit, what the publishers want is far from it.
toddhunter
Member
Fair point. I did mean legit as in "legit" where they will make deals, meaning anybody who doesn't make deals is putting a big target on themselves.
It wouldn't be that somebody like twitch going it alone wouldn't be in the right... but it isn't like that would necessarily help.
I don't mind if someone make money by playing video game if they play it with actual skills. Maybe like executing ultra combo in fighting game, or speedrun in general. But normally playing with nothing to differentiate except insightless commentary?
LeMaximilian
Alligator F*ck House
This won't just affect people that monetize. Considering the check system, if Content ID pops on your channel more often than not and begins flagging gameplay segments, even with editing/commentary, it will severely reduce the quality of producing any type of videogame related media on Youtube without risking a future strike.
Shoutouts to PewDiePie, his segment in the VGX was absolutely horrid.
CountAntonius
Member
Damn shame. Game related content is just about all I watch on youtube nowadays. Some of these guys do amazing work and absolutely deserve to make money off of it.
Why do people care what other people find entertaining? I don't get why he's so popular but he obviously has a massive following and is doing something right. Sounds deserving of the wealth to me.
Goodbye quality gaming videos on Youtube, we hardly knew ye.
Also this is probably going to raise the barrier to entry again. They can't outright kill the ecosystem yet but they can stop people from getting new channels off the ground and just wait for the rest to die.
Also this is probably going to raise the barrier to entry again. They can't outright kill the ecosystem yet but they can stop people from getting new channels off the ground and just wait for the rest to die.
You can't eat love of the game, nor pay bills with it.
ebullientprism
Member
People are just bitter that someone else gets to play games AND get paid for it. Nothing really more complicated than that. All the "bu but they are stealing from the developers who should get the money" excuse kinda falls apart when most of these big Youtube/Twitch guys get advanced copies from developers.
Follow a few indie devs on twitter and you will see most of them are super friendly with a lot of LPers.
So yeah, salty sounds about right.
arts&crafts
Member
I wouldn't call it deserving, well that will just open a whole new can of worms so I will say this doesn't affect me that much as I don't watch much youtube, but it can't be good for the indusry.
Mostly people are bitter at their success.
Heaven forbid someone play a video game without getting paid for it.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
I have no problem with quality streamers/LPER's who are good at games. But folks like PewdiePie shouldnt make a dime for making rape jokes and playing games.
Blame the audience for watching him, I don't like he's shit either so I don't watch it.
I think that'll depend on the publisher, Sega for example has a stated "no upload" policy there and we saw how they'd chase after Youtube videos of decade and a half old games just for cheap marketing purposes (they have a newer Shining game! DON'T LET PEOPLE FIND THE OLDER ONES WHEN THEY SEARCH FOR IT) so they really may crack down there, and Rockstar sounds like they may have a thin skin for cutscenes though I wager for the most part those aren't the most exciting movies to dig up on Youtube of their games anyway.
What I'm mostly worried about is publishers using this as a way to whitewash presentation of their game, so either negative videos get taken down, or even ones depicting funny-but-mostly-harmless glitches that they decide demonstrate their game in a bad light and get pulled. I kind of expect there'll be other venues and all, but this can potentially be very disappointing, yet not truly unexpected.