ZombiePlatypus
Member
How long does it take to localize DQ games? Cause I'd think by now we would have at least gotten confirmation of DQX and DQVII3DS coming over. How far in advance was Bravely Default confirmed for the US?
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Is Dragon Quest strictly a Japan-only franchise now or something?
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entremet
Member
I'm guessing sales are not worth it for SE or Nintendo to publish and localize it stateside.
Well they registered some new trademarks, but none match up with announced games: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=719859
...Well, except perhaps subtitles for DQ2 and DQ3 iOS...
...Well, except perhaps subtitles for DQ2 and DQ3 iOS...
No one wants to play an MMO on PC in America either I guess.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
I can see them holding out on that one till the situation somehow improves, but, come on, wtf is the deal with them just sitting on DQVII3DS?
RPGCrazied
Member
I'd do anything for a console DQ game again. DQ VIII was so godly. Then they decided to port it to iOS. Can't cut me any deeper SE!
turnbuckle
Member
Breaks my heart. I would have loved to get DQX on PC. I would have thought the strong sales of DQIX would cause NA to get more love...but nope.
sublimit
Banned
I think DQIX sold pretty good in the west.
I think people are still not realizing that a big reason these have been such a slow trickle is that the localization of these games are put pretty much squarely (pun intended) on Nintendo's shoulders to do. They are the one handling the localization of these games, and while they sell well enough, they probably aren't on the level of 'We have to put these right RIGHT FUCKING AWAY GODDAMMIT!'
Magicpaint
Member
It did, but the remakes didn't fare as well.
Yeah, but the ones after that (DQVI and one of the spinoffs) sorta bombed.
Hence the frustration, as DQ fans shouldn't be relying on Nintendo to bring games over from a Squenix IP in the first place. This situation is entirely Squenix's doing.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
me too. It could also help the franchise get more traction in the West.
VI didn't do great but it also had no promotion, had the localization done before Nintendo picked it up and it still sold in line with the previous remakes. Joker 2 was the game that really salted the earth from my understanding.
vagabondarts
Member
Just remember, Nintendo doesn't care what you want. Official public stance on issues of localization.
The DS IV, V, VI, and IX was a beautiful time for a Dragon Quest fan like me. I'm a lifelong fan of the series and I didn't even buy Joker 2.
The DS IV, V, VI, and IX was a beautiful time for a Dragon Quest fan like me. I'm a lifelong fan of the series and I didn't even buy Joker 2.
Magicpaint
Member
How so? IX did about as well as VIII did worldwide.
Little dramatic, no? The game isn't even out a year in Japan. Not time to say it's dead just yet.
StoppedInTracks
Member
There is a PC version.
We definitely won't get a VII 3DS announcement before Bravely Default is on American shelves.
Sapphire Dreams
Member
They'll be on iOS/Android from now on.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Nintendo only ever had a push to localize DQ games because of back room loyalty between Nintendo and SE, and to justify DQIX's big push on DS. I don't think it could last.
I expect DQVII 3DS localization announcement soon, other than that, I don't see the others being localized (slime, monsters, etc..)
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Lightning Lord
Banned
Yep, same here.
I'm a big DQ fan, and I bought the remakes of IV-VI, IX, Rocket Slime, and Swords, but I never bothered to get either Joker 1 or 2. Just wasn't very interested. I'd totally be down for DQVII for 3DS, though.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
sörine;93904041 said:
That seems really extreme. I can understand wanting to stagger the releases (even though I'd wager the RPG-hungry demo would totally gobble up both regardless) but I can't imagine a small nod assuring that it's coming, just ways away would hurdle the sales of their current game.
;_;
vagabondarts
Member
Same here. I bought the first one and didn't really care for the Pokemon style gameplay.
slaughterking
Member
I think all DQ games we haven't gotten make sense to stay in Japan, sadly. Can't blame anyone for not touching DQX, Rocket Slime or Monsters in the west. So as far as I'm concerned those aren't a sign of them abandoning the series outside of Japan.
DQVII could be a different story, but that's still too early to write off.
DQVII could be a different story, but that's still too early to write off.
It did, dunno why SE doesn't want it to localize it, they are like " IOS IOS IOS" now
Looking at charts, it seems that no one wants to play anything on the Wii-U in Amerca and yet games are coming out. Might as well localise DQX then.
KiTA
Member
It depends on your definition of "so well." They did better than Xenoblade and Ni no Kuni, which were both considered great successes in the US. Even Joker 2, which "bombed" (due to no marketing at all, the lack of the "2 Professional" expansion pack meaning almost no real online play, et cetera) still outsold those two.
However, if you're a monolithic company like Square Enix, sales have to hit a certain amount just to even bother with, due to their outrageous amounts of overhead.
Unless those DQ games were breaking 500k-1m sales in the US, well, they just wouldn't have been worth doing. And they didn't even come close.
There's also a fan theory based in part on some off the cuff remarks from people in SE US that basically, rather than take the blame for some of the piss poor decisions made during localization (Seth Green, those god awful accents, et cetera), the powers that be at SE US just blamed DQ bombing on, well, Americans just not being smart enough to handle a good JRPG.
Starwolf_UK
Member
My gut feeling here (how much of this is wrong):
VIII did well due to FFXII demo (US), first DQ (EU)
IV got massive shipments as a result. Very over shipped and price crashed (Chrono Trigger did the same..except in Europe where despite it being first official release it became hard to find)
V got cut back shipments, became sought after, eventually getting some reprint in America.
IX did well due to heavy marketing (Iwata's promise to make DQ popular in the west, SE can relax now)
VI and Jokers 2 were also part of Iwata's promise but did poorly. Iwata's promise probably also lead to fortune street (if DQ is Japan only think about Itadaki Street...)
Was DQ X ever Wii/U exclusive? I have a feeling SE are going to use the PC to salvage it and take it from a modest success and make it a huge one.
Regarding DQ VII I feel Braverly Default is the "test" here. If either SE or Nintendo sees solid sales here it would suggest there is a market for JRPGs (don't read into the dismal only sold out but still didn't chart UK performance, look at France they tend to be much stronger for JRPGs)
VIII did well due to FFXII demo (US), first DQ (EU)
IV got massive shipments as a result. Very over shipped and price crashed (Chrono Trigger did the same..except in Europe where despite it being first official release it became hard to find)
V got cut back shipments, became sought after, eventually getting some reprint in America.
IX did well due to heavy marketing (Iwata's promise to make DQ popular in the west, SE can relax now)
VI and Jokers 2 were also part of Iwata's promise but did poorly. Iwata's promise probably also lead to fortune street (if DQ is Japan only think about Itadaki Street...)
Was DQ X ever Wii/U exclusive? I have a feeling SE are going to use the PC to salvage it and take it from a modest success and make it a huge one.
Regarding DQ VII I feel Braverly Default is the "test" here. If either SE or Nintendo sees solid sales here it would suggest there is a market for JRPGs (don't read into the dismal only sold out but still didn't chart UK performance, look at France they tend to be much stronger for JRPGs)
ZombiePlatypus
Member
I'm pretty DQ starved but if all SE throws at us in the West are IOS ports of the series, I'll pass.
I think the longest Nintendo's taken with a DQ localization is 1 year and 1 month. But the game was at least announced before it came out. It's been 10 months since DQVII released on 3DS in Japan and still no info about a localization.
Granted, DQVII is quite a huge game so...
Alright, E3? If it's not announced by E3 it's not coming? Can we agree on that?
I'm pretty sure Nintendo just pays Square Enix to localize it, or is that was 8-4 was doing? *talks out of ass*
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Man, as an RPG fan, it's really sad to feel like almost every noteworthy RPG release outside of FF is basically in "test" mode teetering between coming or not. I guess we're just gonna have to go through this song and dance over and over until another FFVII happens. :/
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Don't they want DQ to go the mobile route for future installments?
KiTA
Member
That's a pretty good scam if they can get it going. I mean, SE should be localizing these games. Period. But if they can con Nintendo into footing the bill, hey, why not?
Damn, lol.