PetriP-TNT
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You mean 4.2 million units shipped?
And then sold to customers, because it's sold out everywhere.
And then sold to customers, because it's sold out everywhere.
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PS4 sold (to consumers) 4.2 million units as of Dec. 28 2013
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A price drop?
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
Because I only remembered reading the first one? I didn't go through his whole post history, it's really not that important to me.
Aquamarine
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The discrepancy between shipped and sold should be very close at this point.
BurnOutBrighter
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Now I can finally realise the dream of playing a game created for PS2, ported to PS3, then streamed to PS4.
3 gens 1 console
edit: oops wrong PS4 thread
3 gens 1 console
edit: oops wrong PS4 thread
They weren't modest. 5 mil was reasonable number for a "popular console".
But now, PS4 is hevily supply constrained, almost every console is sold instantly.
toddhunter
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That is the best bit. It might still take a little while for the games to kick in, but with these numbers you know everybody is going to be jumping onboard.
Wickerbasket
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Yeah, when they first announced their 5 million target I thought they were being overly optimistic.
Now it looks likely that they'll fly past their target.
Crazy stuff.
opticalmace
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I think he was making a joke that the distinction is basically irrelevant right now.
Shmuely Bully
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Microsoft is addicted to recurring revenue and they have been trying to move everything they offer to a subscription/SaaS model. Don't ever expect that to change unless it blows up in their faces to such an extent that it becomes a threat to the company.
XBLG is their version of the Windows support contract.
That is something I can agree with.
Barack Lesnar
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I wish I saved some of the 'contraction' posts. There were so many, pretty much all from Nintendo fans. I wish searching forums was easier.
Metalingus5150
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I have a feeling with all the things locked behind gold, this gap will get larger faster.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing maybe MS would be happy having 30-40% of the next gen video game market and making money with that.
The last time this did somthing somthing dratic was with the OG xbox slashing 100 bucks of the price, and I dont see the X1 ever being in the same situation as the OG xbox.
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as for what MS can do to close the sales gap, I thorght it was comman GAF knoledge, it is dicussed enough, but here are the most comman things ppl think they can do.
- Drop price
- make kinect separate
- more exclusives (games and DLC)
- bundle in games and XBL
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
I was into Playstation before it was cool.
Time to buy was last February at the reveal, or even earlier in like January. It's time to sell to Late Larry's like yourself.
Time to buy was last February at the reveal, or even earlier in like January. It's time to sell to Late Larry's like yourself.
Japanese devs didn't do shit for the 360.
Anyway, great numbers for Sony and good for gaming.
Manmademan
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Well yeah- the WiiU is killing the PS4 in the east (Japan) right now...for obvious reasons.
NightBlade
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velvet_nitemare
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Heh sooner.
Opus Angelorum
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Fantastic sales alongside the Microsoft numbers.
It really does show the Wii U in a very bad light.
It really does show the Wii U in a very bad light.
Cow Goes Moo
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well i don't about that lol
But Xbox Live Gold (TM) is the superior online gaming service. 5 billion transistors and the Cloud (TM), which will make the games 600% better. And, now, with your Games with Mold (TM) offers, you get much more value for your money. You're not simply paying to connect and play with your friends online, you're also paying for free games and apps.*
*Requires Xbox Live gold membership.
*Apps may not be available in your marketplace if you are a European peasant.
Kazuma Kiryu
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I think you're missing one country (can't tell which one), because I'm counting 47 on your list and this post says they launched in 48.
Dude, you don't even need to add the teaser. Shifting 3 million consoles at that price after the awful run up to the XBone launch is no mean feat.
There are two winners of 2013. I wouldn't sweat the fact that one won more than the other.
Manmademan
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That's what kills me. the PS4 isn't even all that revolutionary. It's got a great online infrastructure and PS+ is very well implemented, but in just about every way that matters it's the PS2 with better graphics.
If nintendo had paid more attention to the market and followed up the Wii with a GCN version 2.0 that was actually on par with what the PS4 and Xbone were putting out, they would be fine right now.
They will just have to wait until Titanfall 2 or Titanfall: PS4 Edition.
I wonder what is going on at EA right now. Titanfall was always going to sell more on PC/360 but to lose out on a market that has 4.2 million consoles in people's hands begging for new games is rough.
RedNumberFive
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Pepsi exists only to remind us of how delicious Coke is.
Opus Angelorum
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This is not about a victory for one company or another, it's a great result for the new generation.
Manmademan
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Makes me wonder how much MS paid for it. But even then, I don't think the amount they paid for it was based on if the PS4 would sell more than 4 million this fast.
Canis lupus
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SwiftDeath
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A couple of things
Firstly platform holders do not make any serious money off of selling consoles. The entire point of the hardware is to get it into homes and get people buying games and online subscriptions so they can get royalties for being platform holders.
Secondly the first 3 years or so of a new generation are the most important time usually to build an install base as there is serious potential for a snowball effect like the PS2 era where you got the console all your friends got and it got serious amounts of 3rd party exclusives just due to its massive install base. I however believe there will be little in the way of "natural" 3rd Party exclusives due to the architecture being so close and the likelihood the XB1 will still have a healthy install base (50+ million)
Thirdly both companies in question need their video game division to do well at the risk of serious future consequences. Sony can absolutely not have a repeat of last gen. They need to make money, they need to be profitable lest they get shut down/spun off etc. Hell lest Sony goes bankrupt lol. While MS as a company is doing very well, the xbox division has never been a real money maker compared to other divisions (Office, Windows etc.) and thus there has been a real push by shareholders to evaluate the potential of the Xbox division going forward with recommendations to spin it off. Having 30% less boxes out there then your closest competitor means 30% less opportunity to upsell subscriptions and so on. Obviously though MS may make more money per user and/or decide that's the route they want to take, however a larger install base is always objectively better from the platform holders perspective as well as from their shareholders perspective.
Finally the general consensus has always been that both consoles would sell out for the first 2 or 3 months and thus it didn't matter in the least bit what countries a console did or didn't launch in because they would both be supply-constrained. However the availability of the XB1 in the US would lead to the notion that the XB1 is starting to become readily available in the US. Thus the PS4 is supply-constrained having sold 40% more than the XB1 while the XB1 is not supply-constrained. Again this is not an enviable position to be in as a platform holder.
UnObtainium17
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Around november I posted PS4 will sell 5mil by the end of the year.. Then I think someone replied to it and said he/she thinks 4mil. lol almost right on the money.
I predict 20-24mil PS4 by the very last week of Dec 2014 lol.
I predict 20-24mil PS4 by the very last week of Dec 2014 lol.
gioGAF
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That is the whole point. They did nothing for the 360 sales-wise, but they attempted to support it early on at the expense of PS3 support. Basically, Japanese developers should not WASTE their time on the MS console this time around.
BishopLamont
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PS4 is to PS3 what PS2 is to PS1.
They just had to not do stupid shit and everything just falls into place.
They just had to not do stupid shit and everything just falls into place.
No, they should be worried right now. Any hope they had of having equal market share this gen is already gone.
Shmuely Bully
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I'm harsh on Nintendo a lot of the time and I would love the Nintendo of my youth to come back to us, but at the same time I don't know what else they can really do in the short to mid-term at least.
They have long since lost the reputation for great gameplay AND great graphics that they had back in the SNES/N64 days and it takes a ton of time to win that kind of respect back. People have repeatedly claimed they're going back to that and I keep not believing them.
Nintendo needs to change their entire corporate culture before they can even begin to win back the respect of 'core gamers'. They're a decade behind in multiplayer and they are still entirely married to proprietary hardware, software, and media. Just course correcting on both of those will take years if they start now and they would still need to repair their third-party developer relationships.
Doesn't work, ASDA cola sells in Europe.
Randolph Freelander
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4.2 million in a few weeks is an impressive display of managing supply. Kudos to Sony. Demand is obviously sufficient for it, too, which is also impressive.
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